Topic: Why doesn’t Switch have achievements yet?

Except you insist we stick to answering the question you've agreed we can't actually answer .... ? Unlike the BotW one, where it's all opinions & perspectives!

@Tasuki It doesn't need to show up on a profile at all, in fact you can remove them completely from your profile if you choose to do so. I also never mentioned wanting it to appear on my profile at all, rather just achievements feature to have something to unlock and grind towards for my favourite games. I don't think Nintendo so much as needs it, they obviously are doing fine without it, I'm just saying that it would be a fun addition for those that enjoy achievements.

@Anti-Matter But if you have absolutely no care for achievements either way then it's pointless to participate in the discussion. And as for what responses I was expecting, I was expecting responses from those who may have reasons or theories as to why Nintendo haven't yet implemented achievements. Just like how in my BOTW thread I was expecting people to say why they rate the game so highly, which is what I got, I wouldn't expect people who have never played BOTW to tell me why it's rated so highly, that would make no sense, just like how it makes little sense for someone to just say "I don't like achievements" in this thread.

@BruceCM Someone saying "I don't like achievements" with little else to say isn't answering if we could get achievements or why we don't have achievements already.

Yeah but since Nintendo haven't said anything about them, we can't really answer that, like I keep pointing out, @NNGaming900 .... If only those that want achievements can post their opinions, that isn't a proper discussion. So, you're now saying you do only want people posting to agree with you?

@NNGaming900
The answer of "I don't like achievements or trophies." was also the possible answer to address your question.
Maybe Nintendo will not add the achievements since Nintendo know the majority of Nintendo gamers will not care about achivements or trophies.
And then, the answer of not interested with achievements or trophies was the additional opinion about how did some Nintendo gamers react toward achievements or trophies.

@BruceCM I don't really follow Nintendo related new so I wasn't sure whether or not they've referenced this before, but even if not usually people have theories and potential reasons with these sorts of things. I didn't say only those that want achievements can post their opinions? I said that just stating a fact that you dislike achievements, or even just someone saying that they do like achievements is fine but doesn't really add anything to this discussion.

@Anti-Matter Potentially in a way, although saying something like "I don't like achievements for this reason which may be why Nintendo haven't yet added them" would be more constructive, as a couple of the guys I was discussing with earlier said something similar, although because there is a huge amount of people who own the Switch along with other platforms, I'd say that isn't the case. I'm also not quite sure what you mean with that last sentence?

Odd because some people have said why they think achievements aren't needed & those don't seem to be satisfying you, either .... There's been several posts saying a lot more than just 'I don't like achievements'

@BruceCM Yes and those are the ones that do in a way contribute to the topic as they give actual reasons why they don't like achievements or think they are silly. Whilst it doesn't answer the question as such, giving detailed reasons why they wouldn't want achievement support is still pretty constructive to a discussion.

@BruceCM Perhaps the OP should have titled the thread do you like achievements or should Nintendo add achievements.

@NNGaming900 Much like I didn't literally said "validation", neither did you literally say those words, but you did use similar terms and/or implications towards several users in this thread, such as questioning other user's self-worth or mentioning insecurity when they brought up their dislike of achievements. Or in my case, saying I'm ranting, when I'm not.

And of course you don't have to agree with something that you don't feel the same about, but you also didn't show any signs of seriously considering any of our points, and that to me came across as the equivalent of you just digging your heels into the sand and folding your arms, implying pretending to be virtually deaf, even to some potentially valid counter-arguments.

It also frequently happens that original posts or questions get side-tracked or added upon, once the discussion furthers, hence the reason we're now in the pros and cons of achievements. Nothing specifically wrong with that either. Forum topic discussions just go along in whatever way, unless a mod locks them...

As for possibly getting a warning, all I can say is that most of us on here weren't that vocal in our first period on here, much less on our first day, which is why I mentioned the whole "why not test the waters for a bit first" thing. Most if not all of us have been readers of this site for a year or more, before finally deciding to join, and then predominantly being active in article comments sections, instead of making forum topics on day one...

You're more than likely not a bad person at all, but you do come across as a bit brash or whatever, and that might make you stick out amongst the community here, which will ultimately result in the mods picking up on that. It's nothing personal for me, it's just something I noticed. And I've seen plenty of people on here being warned or temporarily banned for less, so make of that what you will.

Maybe, @Tasuki .... I think I started posting in topics on my 1st day, @ThanosReXXX! While creating topics, as such, wouldn't be a problem, either. Maybe it is a coincidence both happen to be such controversial ones?

@BruceCM Yeah, that kinda was my point. I'm not saying new members shouldn't post or make forum topics, just that they might want to find out what the community is actually like, in order to be able to address them in a way that fits within that community. So, that's why I jokingly referred to IGN and NeoGAF, because over there, it's mostly know-it-alls and shouters, so if someone's like that, they'll fit in perfectly. It's basically the YouTube comments section crowd, but in a gaming forum.

Nintendo Life is WAY more relaxed and quiet in many ways, which is one of the main reasons I'm still here, while I've already unsubscribed from several other websites long ago. (among which IGN)

@ThanosReXXX Maybe I somewhat seemed to imply that you were referring to validation as you straight up said that achievements are for self worth, which in it's self is very similar to validation. How was I the one to question anyone's self worth? I brought up the fact that it seemed like a pretty insecure mindset as he was constantly asking if I'd think I was above him due to a score or for having more achievements, that's a very ridiculous thing to assume. And also let's not forget that was the same guy who was saying how the younger generation need validation and rewards for everything, so surely me pointing out a fact that his question made him seem quite insecure can't be worse than that?

I did show that I took into consideration your opinion, I said many times that since you're not a fan you could just ignore it or turn them off completely since you weren't a fan. On the other hand, paragraphs of explaining why achievements are silly to you is certainly not taking into consideration the other side. The discussion was barely even half a page long by the time you among others said how achievements don't need to be implemented, by which point it couldn't have already gotten side tracked as it had only just started. I didn't realise being vocal on a forum is something that could be considered a bannable offence? I would've thought being vocal is a positive thing on a forum, after all a forum is a place to discuss. You said that I was attempting to rile up or irritate people so just assumed you were referring to yourself, I'm glad you aren't taking is personal though as it is just a discussion.

@BruceCM The BOTW thread I can understand being controversial as it's a very popular game, but asking why it doesn't yet and if the Switch will get achievement support? In what way is that controversial?

Perhaps. And perhaps you could read and reply to my response to your last post!

@NNGaming900 I'm not just looking for consideration for my own points, but for the points of all the other users, because each of them brought some good points, regardless of them not being in agreement with your own views.

As for the rest: the thing is, quite a few of us gave slightly different views, so I didn't feel like having to add something similar, so I tried to differentiate, even though I also went for "dislike". And your main point is that it brings more entertainment, or more value to a game, and those are things that in my opinion aren't true, for all of the reasons mentioned by me AND other commenters.

That doesn't mean that either one of our opinions is more valid than the other, it's just different views, so personally, I can't say for a fact that achievements add more to a game, or don't. I just THINK or feel they don't, and you do. That's pretty much it.

And I'm almost hesitant to bring it up AGAIN, but I did very much try to stick to the original topic/question, by giving you a possible answer as to why Nintendo hasn't implemented it, and I've seen others do it as well.

I quoted my view on what Nintendo might think on page 5, so that's one possible option. And maybe even one not all that far removed from the actual truth...

I like achievements BUT only in-game achievements. Like the ones in Diablo 3, Minecraft etc.

I do not like achievements based on online profile OR operation system.

Diablo 3 has for me the best in-game achievement system.

Yeah, I've been around quite a few forums over the years, @ThanosReXXX.... Posted a bit on Neogaf & that's tame in comparison to a couple I was very active in, until they closed down
I'm all about quiet, relaxed places these days