Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@Slowdive Dammit, I heard SMT was like Pokemon so I bought it for my kid brother too. I was hoping we could battle Maras against each other!

@jump This thing probably uses Backstab or something ... If it was a Pokemon it would 100% have "Harden".

I had to Google "game monster looks like a d**k" to find out it is from Persona Man the other finds were nightmarish as well!!!

@Magician GTAV releasing the same day is the bigger competition.

No Switch Pro preorders opened last night.

Does this mean no Switch Pro-enhanced announcements for E3 then?

Doom and gloom.

@jump Erm...that's a pen-

nevermind.

Mara is hilarious in SMT IV: Apocalypse between his husky voice and constant risqué jokes/references.

@Grumblevolcano Nah. GTA V isn't on Switch. Releasing it close to Pokemon isn't a great idea, though.

I hope they don't announce it at E3 to be honest. E3 should be primarily about games, and given that the Switch Pro is almost definitely just an incremental improvement, it shouldn't make too much difference on the actual games. At least not an improvement that will make much difference in a preview trailer. I mean no-one's like "I need this trailer in 4K" with Nintendo games really.

I actually doubt SMTV's supposed release date is actually going to hurt the game's sales

Pokemon and SMT are intended for drastically different audiences and the only thing they really share are gameplay mechanics and genre. Nintendo is selling Pokemon to kids. Kids obviously aren't going to be deterred to pick up an M-rated game especially given the content

Switch playtime records expire after 4 years, I noticed that the total time played for really early Switch era games like MK8 Deluxe has decreased.

@Magician I consider Bloomberg and Eurogamer more reliable, and they said we can expect it before E3.
It makes sense if you consider possible third party announcements.
If it isn't presented before E3 and no third party talks about it, then I'm very confused about what this supposed PRO model does.

Don’t underestimate how many adults play Pokémon. And don’t underestimate how many minors play SMT.

Yes, it’s true that kids likely make up a larger constituency of the player base for Pokémon and vise versa for SMT, but there’s still a ton of overlap. Pokémon is incredibly popular with college students and 30 year somethings who grew up on it. There’s always going to be some overlap.

But the boost from November will more than make up for it, of that I’m confident.

@teo_o
They said it could happen before e3, which, it totally could, but it could just as well come a month after e3 similar to the Switch Lite. Believe that’s how the Lite played out. Rumors in April, manufacturer shell casing leaked in spring. No word at e3. Then 3-4 weeks after, bam, there it was.

I suspect they may go for the same play here.

Either way, it’s not far off. Odds are we’ll almost certainly have it announced by the end of next month one way or another. Regardless, I’m pretty sure this new revision will do what we all think it will- provide a somewhat higher tier experience for those willing to shell out a bit more money.

I've never heard of this and couldn't find anything about it.

@JaxonH Yes, but the lite was essentially the same hardware. I'm assuming the new switch will do something more than an upscale, with some parties having portings and titles to announce for it. Would be strange to miss E3s opportunity to make the same thing a month or two down the line.
But it's nintendo we're talking about here, so who knows.
After all, this new model could actually just do an upscale, so it wont divide the library like the new 3ds did.
Truth be told, with the way Nintendo has used social media recently, they don't need E3 to make this kind of announcement.

@TheFrenchiestFry A massive chunk of Pokemon's fanbase consists of adults who grew up with it. The same is more or less true for a lot of somewhat older properties ostensibly aimed at children, but Pokemon very much had a generational appeal to a lot of us 90s kids who remember when the Game Boy game, anime, and trading card game first came out, and we were swallowed in a vortex of pure hype. For a lot of us, it was also our first real exposure to JRPGs.

Anyway, I think releasing it next to Pokemon will be detrimental insofar as you'll get a lot less newbies and more casual players trying out the game. And I do think Persona 5 primarily succeeded the way it did because it blew up online and pulled in a lot of new eyes. If the game wasn't releasing around any other big games, you'd probably see more people adopting it out of curiosity. But Pokemon games, even basic looking remakes like these, are going to suck all of the air out of the room. There's a reason it's the biggest media franchise in the world.

@Ralizah Comparing Splatoon 1 and ARMS showcases this very well. Splatoon launched in May 2015 with very little happening afterwards until September 2015 (Outside of Smash DLC, Europe and Japan did get Woolly World in between but that released in October 2015 for NA) and Splatoon became a massive Nintendo franchise. ARMS however released during a very packed lineup which made the game suffer, Splatoon 2 releasing only a month later was the finishing blow.

They way people talk about Arms you'd think it didn't sell over 2m copies or it was actually a flop the size of Balan. lol

In a way I'm surprised Arms was so successful, their marketing seemed to make out it was a Wii era waggle game.

I'd argue that ARMS is the best new IP that Nintendo have churned out in quite a while. Better than Splatoon, imo. But then...I am a fan of arena figthers, more so than competitive shooters. Don't forget ARMS sold twice as well as Pokken Tournament.

@Magician
I really wish for ARMS 2 with very important features: Create your ARMS fighter from head to toe, Design your ARMS fighting arena, Boxing Mode (No extended arms fighting just like Normal Boxing games) and Boxing Cardio Workout Mode.

@Magician Yeah Arms is great, it's one of my favourites but it doesn't beat Splatoon for me personally. New fighting games often struggle so for Arms to get so much right out of the gate is a great effort.

I think both Pokken versions combined may still have outsold Arms. On paper it should have sold loads more but it's their own fault for not putting Pokemon in the name lol

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