Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@Xyphon22 you need to redownload them on the new SD card.

@Linoshi most games unlock at the standard eShop update time.

Okay, I'd been kind of ignoring World of Final Fantasy for a while now. But I think that might have to change. Now I want this game.

@JaxonH They finally posted the trailer....I guess they got around to it after spending the day telling us how to shed 30lbs in 10 minutes the easy way!

Sadly posting about games other sites are talking about does't boost your Google rankings and NL too often loses interest in being a legitimate news outlet and seeks to become a trending sensation. I think rjejr called it right. They got spooked when PureXBox went down in flames and started monitoring their web rankings and how to manipulate them like hawks. Thomas and Damo skirted too far over the edge at times in the day. Then Dom seemed like he wanted to write anywhere but a Nintendo site. I thought it wasn't going to get worse than Ryan's sensationalism, but now we have Glenn who's dropped all pretense and gone full Buzzfeed. I feel like I get my Nintendo news from a Youtube "influencer" now

@Ryu_Niiyama Final Fantasy is the only series that refuses to actually use fantasy settings anymore even when they know fans like it WoFF reminds me why I love 9.

WoFF always interested me, but I was caught between wanting the portability of the Vita version and the performance of the PS4 version, so I ended up getting neither. Now I don't have to choose!

FFXII: The Zodiac Age is highest priority for me, though. I came so close, so many times, to pulling the trigger on the PS4 version of that.

@NEStalgia I only really stay here because of the forum. Nintendo Everything is way better as a news vehicle these days. Information is cheap and plentiful, though, and a friendly sense of community is a far harder thing to hold on to.

Yeah I stopped reading the NL articles. I follow My Nintendo News and other people on Twitter and Reddit to get the most of my news anyway.

The forums are really the only good place here nowadays tbh. The comments section of the articles are draining to read.

Eh, even the original game wasn't pure fantasy. There were robots/androids, submarines, tech based teleportation, and steampunk style airships.

@subpopz Going back to SD cards it all gets confusing. I just realized my card is a U1 (back in the day of Feb 2017!) and the current models are all U2. That represents a huge difference in sustained write speeds, which may well be the issue with larger downloads, but even the U1 should be a "fast" card.

@PlywoodStick I know you were looking into the SD performances way back in the day. I'm trying to figure out if my UHS1/U1 card is the bottleneck of disastrously slow downloads on Switch (even over wired connection with the offical Hori USB LAN adapter, so we can ignore Switch WiFi issues), or if Switch or the eShop is a bottleneck leading to constant download interruptions and crawling speeds.

FWIW the card is a Samsung Evo Select 128GB which depending on who you listen to is either an Amazon house rebranding of the Evo Plus (not the Evo +) but is otherwise the same card for half the price. Or it's a cheaper part that pretends to be the same part. Who can tell?

Currently looking at 256 (or even 400GB? Nah...too pricey) cards. I'm not sure if you ever figured out if Switch is capable of supporting UHSII/U3, or if UHSI/U3 offers any advantage in sustained throughput on writes (presumably it does...)

I have to think it's the SD card that limits speeds. Downloads are a lot slower then on PC or Xbox 1, even if the file sizes are a fraction of the PC or XB1 game.

@Ralizah Seconded on Nintendo Everything. I look for news there first. I like how snappy the comment system is here so I'll drop a one liner but I stopped trying to have discussions. Even with the forums they move so fast topic wise I tend to just float in and out now.

@NEStalgia While I don't understand (or care about really) half of the storylines in FF games (but I did like XIII's...well XIII-2 was pushing it because I didnt care about the characters but still), I actually liked the fact that the only thing that makes an FF game is the name... but you get to keep a veteran dev team and a lush budget. (mostly...speaking of which I wonder if mistwalker has done anything recently that isn't mobile...nope...sigh.) It's like an indie experiment that nobody has called Squeenix out on yet.

However, at the same time the lack of consistency is why I prefer DQ (and old school Enix...I wasn't a square head as a kid and I find Chrono Trigger to be bloated although ambitious) over FF. FF is like a rockstar with bad lyrics but they are flashy and well loved for ...some reason... but that means they have an inflated sense of self. I still say VII was the worst thing that Squeenix could have done as it was an ok game that gained legendary status and made square a bit too full of themselves. Unpopular opinion but that's just me.

All kinds of trailers and gameplay coming out.

Tales of Vesperia finally gets some English footage

@Ryu_Niiyama Aren't half those veteran team members making Xenoblade now?

I'm with you on DQ though. It's still well grounded (though XI seems a little weird with it's better-than-COD graphics, and still using 8-bit sounds ) unlike the scattershot FF that's all over the place. Mostly agreed on XII though, thinking back to playing it, story was intriguing, art was great for its time, battle system was their best to date and they refuse to reuse it. The game was solid other than taking my healer away and leaving me with like a lv2 healer in a dangerous cave It's not that a so-so game got too popular but that a great game got popular for all the wrong reasons. And arguably a game that shouldn't have been an FF in many regards. 8 however was tragic. Even more tragic than 13. 13 had great gameplay, and a terrible pace, story, and world. 8 was just...bad across the board.

Chrono was bloated I agree. Great battle system, great world, great story, characters etc. But dungeons went on way too long and too grueling. Though that was common in the SNES era. Contrast with Octopath" Head through the woods: We mean walk 12 feet, then turn left at the sign post and walk another 12 feet."

@JaxonH I'm sorry your'e doing it wrong, it should be "TGS Showed incredible footage you won't believe: Here's the best 5"

@NEStalgia
You're really good at this. Well, if you fail at whatever you're doing now I'm sure you could always find a job in the tabloid sector!

@NEStalgia Hold up, Chrono Trigger being bloated? It's VERY compact for a SNES RPG and really well-paced. Dungeons were the best of the SNES era, being any Final Fantasy and stuff. There's not a single dull moment I can think of in CT.

But yeah, quite a few veterans of Squaresoft are at Monolith Soft now. Their story is pretty funny: they worked on FFVI and Chrono Trigger, then they got their own project in Xenogears. It was a proposal for FFVII, but it was deemed too dark so it was then developed as a Chrono Trigger sequel until they added way more things to just make it diverge into its own game. It was really ambitious but they ran out of time, leading to the infamous Disc 2 of nothing but narration and minimal gameplay.

If you think about it, CT is basically the prototype of Xeno. There's some elements of CT that appeared in Xenogears like Lucca as a cameo and the three wise sages Gaspar, Belthazar, and Melchior as key characters in both games.

Then they broke off from Square, made Xenosaga with Namco, then the rest is history with Xenoblade as Nintendo bought them out. Now they're doing really well for themselves, which is a nice happy ending (for now).

@NEStalgia Surely you can find out about your bottleneck yourself just by removing the SD card and downloading to your system storage.

@JaxonH LOL, I'm not sure if I should be flattered or enraged.

@EvilLucario It may have been one of the best of the SNES era, but those dungeon crawls were often way too long to the point of boredom between big events and save points. I love the game, but yeah looking back people remember the good without remembering the annoyances.

I love the game, but yeah looking back people remember the good without remembering the annoyances. Then again you dono't mind blade field skills. Talking to you about RPG mechanics is like talking to Ralizah about controller ergonomics. You'll have the wrong answer but you'll think it's right

" they worked on FFVI and Chrono Trigger, then they got their own project in Xenogears. It was a proposal for FFVII, but it was deemed too dark so it was then developed as a Chrono Trigger sequel until they added way more things to just make it diverge into its own game. It was really ambitious but they ran out of time, leading to the infamous Disc 2 of nothing but narration and minimal gameplay."

Oh man that's the best summary of Squaresoft I've ever heard.

@gcunit Ahh good point! I'll have to give it a try!

@NEStalgia
> Talking to you about RPG mechanics is like talking to Ralizah about controller ergonomics.

Oi leave my boy alone! DualShock controllers are still fine and good for controller quality.

Then again, I also think sideways Joy-Con is fine so...

As for CT, I make it a habit to replay the game at least once a year. I don't really see the long-winded dungeons angle, MAYBE in the Ocean Palace but that's all I can think of. The Factory could be hell on your first playthrough, but it ain't so bad tbh.

Plus, Shelters were massively OP, being uber cheap to buy.

Dungeons in rpgs of the NES/SNES era tended to be kind of short by today's standards. Likely due to the limitations of what could be stored on the game cart.

But seriously? Chrono Trigger was bloated? Getting every single ending might take you 25 hours, while just completing the game was likely to take 20 hours. And that was only if you insist on helping everyone out and doing all the side quests for better gear (Rainbow Shell gear for example). Otherwise the game might be over in 15 hours. Compared to a typical Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest game where you're expected to put in 30 to 40 hours easily without searching for any secrets.

@EvilLucario LOL, sideways Joycons are....err....serviceable? Ok yeah that's the one and only controller worse than DualShock3.

@FaeKnight I don't know I think I spent way more time in that game than any FF. Then again it was a long time ago that I last played.

Chrono Trigger wasn't a terribly long game. It just wasn't very interesting or well-written.