Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@Ralizah Seconded on Nintendo Everything. I look for news there first. I like how snappy the comment system is here so I'll drop a one liner but I stopped trying to have discussions. Even with the forums they move so fast topic wise I tend to just float in and out now.

@NEStalgia While I don't understand (or care about really) half of the storylines in FF games (but I did like XIII's...well XIII-2 was pushing it because I didnt care about the characters but still), I actually liked the fact that the only thing that makes an FF game is the name... but you get to keep a veteran dev team and a lush budget. (mostly...speaking of which I wonder if mistwalker has done anything recently that isn't mobile...nope...sigh.) It's like an indie experiment that nobody has called Squeenix out on yet.

However, at the same time the lack of consistency is why I prefer DQ (and old school Enix...I wasn't a square head as a kid and I find Chrono Trigger to be bloated although ambitious) over FF. FF is like a rockstar with bad lyrics but they are flashy and well loved for ...some reason... but that means they have an inflated sense of self. I still say VII was the worst thing that Squeenix could have done as it was an ok game that gained legendary status and made square a bit too full of themselves. Unpopular opinion but that's just me.

All kinds of trailers and gameplay coming out.

Tales of Vesperia finally gets some English footage

@Ryu_Niiyama Aren't half those veteran team members making Xenoblade now?

I'm with you on DQ though. It's still well grounded (though XI seems a little weird with it's better-than-COD graphics, and still using 8-bit sounds ) unlike the scattershot FF that's all over the place. Mostly agreed on XII though, thinking back to playing it, story was intriguing, art was great for its time, battle system was their best to date and they refuse to reuse it. The game was solid other than taking my healer away and leaving me with like a lv2 healer in a dangerous cave It's not that a so-so game got too popular but that a great game got popular for all the wrong reasons. And arguably a game that shouldn't have been an FF in many regards. 8 however was tragic. Even more tragic than 13. 13 had great gameplay, and a terrible pace, story, and world. 8 was just...bad across the board.

Chrono was bloated I agree. Great battle system, great world, great story, characters etc. But dungeons went on way too long and too grueling. Though that was common in the SNES era. Contrast with Octopath" Head through the woods: We mean walk 12 feet, then turn left at the sign post and walk another 12 feet."

@JaxonH I'm sorry your'e doing it wrong, it should be "TGS Showed incredible footage you won't believe: Here's the best 5"

@NEStalgia
You're really good at this. Well, if you fail at whatever you're doing now I'm sure you could always find a job in the tabloid sector!

@NEStalgia Hold up, Chrono Trigger being bloated? It's VERY compact for a SNES RPG and really well-paced. Dungeons were the best of the SNES era, being any Final Fantasy and stuff. There's not a single dull moment I can think of in CT.

But yeah, quite a few veterans of Squaresoft are at Monolith Soft now. Their story is pretty funny: they worked on FFVI and Chrono Trigger, then they got their own project in Xenogears. It was a proposal for FFVII, but it was deemed too dark so it was then developed as a Chrono Trigger sequel until they added way more things to just make it diverge into its own game. It was really ambitious but they ran out of time, leading to the infamous Disc 2 of nothing but narration and minimal gameplay.

If you think about it, CT is basically the prototype of Xeno. There's some elements of CT that appeared in Xenogears like Lucca as a cameo and the three wise sages Gaspar, Belthazar, and Melchior as key characters in both games.

Then they broke off from Square, made Xenosaga with Namco, then the rest is history with Xenoblade as Nintendo bought them out. Now they're doing really well for themselves, which is a nice happy ending (for now).

@NEStalgia Surely you can find out about your bottleneck yourself just by removing the SD card and downloading to your system storage.

@JaxonH LOL, I'm not sure if I should be flattered or enraged.

@EvilLucario It may have been one of the best of the SNES era, but those dungeon crawls were often way too long to the point of boredom between big events and save points. I love the game, but yeah looking back people remember the good without remembering the annoyances.

I love the game, but yeah looking back people remember the good without remembering the annoyances. Then again you dono't mind blade field skills. Talking to you about RPG mechanics is like talking to Ralizah about controller ergonomics. You'll have the wrong answer but you'll think it's right

" they worked on FFVI and Chrono Trigger, then they got their own project in Xenogears. It was a proposal for FFVII, but it was deemed too dark so it was then developed as a Chrono Trigger sequel until they added way more things to just make it diverge into its own game. It was really ambitious but they ran out of time, leading to the infamous Disc 2 of nothing but narration and minimal gameplay."

Oh man that's the best summary of Squaresoft I've ever heard.

@gcunit Ahh good point! I'll have to give it a try!

@NEStalgia
> Talking to you about RPG mechanics is like talking to Ralizah about controller ergonomics.

Oi leave my boy alone! DualShock controllers are still fine and good for controller quality.

Then again, I also think sideways Joy-Con is fine so...

As for CT, I make it a habit to replay the game at least once a year. I don't really see the long-winded dungeons angle, MAYBE in the Ocean Palace but that's all I can think of. The Factory could be hell on your first playthrough, but it ain't so bad tbh.

Plus, Shelters were massively OP, being uber cheap to buy.

Dungeons in rpgs of the NES/SNES era tended to be kind of short by today's standards. Likely due to the limitations of what could be stored on the game cart.

But seriously? Chrono Trigger was bloated? Getting every single ending might take you 25 hours, while just completing the game was likely to take 20 hours. And that was only if you insist on helping everyone out and doing all the side quests for better gear (Rainbow Shell gear for example). Otherwise the game might be over in 15 hours. Compared to a typical Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest game where you're expected to put in 30 to 40 hours easily without searching for any secrets.

@EvilLucario LOL, sideways Joycons are....err....serviceable? Ok yeah that's the one and only controller worse than DualShock3.

@FaeKnight I don't know I think I spent way more time in that game than any FF. Then again it was a long time ago that I last played.

Chrono Trigger wasn't a terribly long game. It just wasn't very interesting or well-written.

@Ralizah Ok I take back my earlier defense for you in terms of controllers. I'm leaving you for the wolves. :^]

Looks like Risk of Rain had a stealth release today. It's $9.99. It was a well received indie game. I had fun with it on the Vita.

Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate just got a patch yesterday. Adds clicking L3 to run similar to World. I will still always use ZR to run (well, R, but you can swap L/R with ZL/ZR) though. It's just normal to me in MH games.

But it's awesome they're patching the game and adding things in. Especially enhancements added from World. I find that very interesting.

@EvilLucario Every thread I post to becomes an "unpopular opinions" thread.

It's not a terrible game. I enjoyed it well enough when I played it. Solid 7/10. But it's one of those things where I become more critical than I reasonably should because people treat it like the holy grail of the genre.

I liked it more than Earthbound, at least.

@Ralizah

@EvilLucario I think your cat might need to make use of a treadmill or five.

@EvilLucario LOL!

@Ralizah It's not that ever thread becomes the unpopular opinions thread. If you change your opinions to not be the wrong ones, you'll be fine!

Wow, assailing Chrono Trigger and Earthbound in a single thread. Wow. That's courage of steel. Well, you've certainly been a valuable member of these forums, see you on IGN!

Well, Tokyo Mirage remains probably my favorite RPG of all time, so I have no room to complain on that front Never too easy, never too hard, great world, great characters, fun story, never took itself too seriously, and way too addictive battle, even if it was spammy at times. I'd buy and play it again if it were ported.

That is either a tiny person, or the cat is incredibly large. And look at that expression! Clearly El Kitty didn't expect to be picked up.