Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@GrailUK I'd say 1 completely new fighter, 1 or 2 echo fighters, some stages, online modes and any connectivity to the app, and then hopefully some sort of demo.

In October/November is when I'd expect a Smash Direct focused on single player modes and a DLC tease.

@kkslider5552000 yes, please do this Nintendo/Sakurai/Bandai i was never fan of Wii U/3DS version of Break the Targets. (or what it was called)

@IceClimbers I agree, if there's going to be another Smash Direct closer to launch then this one will be focused on online to try and convince people the paid online subscription is worth getting. Then the later one covers stuff like single player.

I'm not sure whether there'll be DLC this time, we're already getting all characters from past Smash games in the base game and "not all stages return" may mean something like "everything but Miiverse". It feels like the kind of outcome where after launch there's only balancing updates.

Smash is one of Nintendo’s biggest franchise. Smash is the best selling Wii U game that is not a Mario game. Brawl almost outsold the Wii U. On 3DS, it did as well as Zelda BoTW. There’s a reason they’re focusing on it so much, it’s not like they pulled that idea out of their backsides that “Smash sells” I’m perfectly OK with a direct like this as long as it doesn’t waste my time with every small change like the E3 direct did.

Smash for me is, 1v1 For Glory online,love it. No items, basic stages, online. That's what I'll be buying the game for. I do feel it's not enough though to justify its cost for me. I can't stand playing with items on or on the more complex stages, I find it far too chaotic to play with more than 1 opponent and I think most of the other modes it comes with are not worth bothering with. That awful board game Smash 4 came with wasn't even worth playing once. I didn't find the adventure mode on Brawl to be much better.

I'm sorry you hate fun.

Except that they are.

Can you show how you managed to come to that conclusion? The only franchise I would think have a majority of fans on Nintendo consoles are Mario kart. And I would be hesitant to even say that.

I guess it no series will technically be owned by the majority(), but Smash(and Mario Kart even more so) comes really darn close. More than a third of Wii U owners owned Smash Wii U. Brawl did well over 10 million. etc.

@KryptoniteKrunch About 40% of Wii U owner had smash. But Wii U is also an outlier, most Nintendo franchises did better percentage wise. Which isn't that surprising, since it had a much more meager software library. But if we look at Wii and 3ds, it has around 10%-15% tie-ratio. Hardly a majority. It is one of the biggest franchises though.

But I can understand if people are a bit miffed, since if you are not interested in smash, the rest of the year looks really thin. And since they spent half of e3 on smash, I can also understand that people don't want a direct focused on smash. It really reinforces the narrative that Nintendo doesn't have any games this year.

And the question is, what is Nintendo doing? There are not that many games coming to either console at the moment. I wouldn't be surprised if we will see a new handheld next year. Maybe a dual screen compatible with switch dev tools?

@Therad
That can be said about any point in the Switch's lifetime. What about the people who weren't interested in Zelda? What about people not interested in online games like Arms and Splatoon 2? What about people not interested in Mario or Xenoblade? What about people not interested in 2D platformers like Kirby or Donkey Kong? Nintendo can't release every single genre each month to appeal to everyone.

@Alber-san yes? This is why it is important to try and have a diverse line-up.

@Therad
My point was that it's impossible to satisfy everyone's desires. The Switch already has a pretty diverse lineup but that doesn't mean there will always be a game for everyone. If someone doesn't like Smash they can still buy Pokemon, don't like it either? Buy a third party or indie game then. If none appeal to them then there are hundreds of games they haven't tried.

Looks like something Bravely related is being teased for the Switch...

https://twitter.com/nibellion/status/1026399449889873921?s=21

I think Smash looks fantastic and I'm gonna get it, but what more can they show off besides new stages and maybe a new character or 2?

It is of the utmost importance that we know there's an extra bruise on Mario's left cheek after you get him past 20.43% damage

Game modes. We don't know anything about what modes will be in it. If they announce a new story mode on the scale of Subspace Emissary it could hugely increase people's interest in the game.

@Dogorilla maybe they also have every game mode from before. Wouldn't surprise me at all...

@Alber-san and my point was that it is always a good thing to make sure most of your fan base have something big to look forward to.

@Mrtoad Smash is a decent seller, but it's not as big as Smash fans make it out to be (or as bit as Nintendo apparently now believes the Smash fans make it to be.) It'll be a million+ seller easily, it certainly will sell well. But it's not exactly Kart or Pokemon. It sold huge on Wii in large part to a very well regarded single player brawler game. It had a big percentage of WiiU largely because only the core faithful bought a WiiU to begin with. Smash has a weird history because Nintendo consoles have a weird history and it's at least a game that anyone from casual to core can buy into. But Nintendo's been releasing a lot of such games these days. Big seller, yes. Enough to bet the whole console on for a year? Less so.

@Therad If they seriously try to release a non-Switch handheld and split the software base again, I'm going to have a very tainted view of Nintendo at that point. They have a hard enough time delivering software for one system let alone two, and having two handhelds competing against each other makes zero sense. Switch is a Japan success because it's handheld.

IMO they're just playing the numbers. They know they can post numbers riding on prior games and Smash through the holiday, and release a slow steady drip of games for the rest of the gen, just stockpiling them in the vault until they need one to fill a sales window. Any not needed for sale on Switch can be ported to launch of the successor. It seems a Nintendo thing to do. Even if they were making 12 games a year, if they only needed 3 to meet sales targets, they'll shelf the other 9.

@NEStalgia Zelda BOTW was the big launch game of the Switch and every single Zelda other than OoT was beaten by the console’s fellow Smash game. If Zelda can sell 9 million and Splatoon can sell 6 million, I see no reason why Smash can’t sell at least 6 million.