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Haruki_NLI

Where's this talk of memos coming from?

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SLIGEACH_EIRE

This site is looking very weird right now. Not to say anything about it being down for the past few hours.

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OorWullie

Am I alone in thinking they might scrap the online subscription and just go with the free option and make up the money they'd have made by selling us VC again? I don't know how they can introduce it now unless they still have a handful of unannounced games that will support it. We're coming up for the year anniversary and the last big online 1st party game released in July last year. I think the best approach is to leave it free for this gen but still slowly introduce the features they planned to and make up the deficit with a VC platform.Then next gen they will be better prepared to charge from the beginning. Things are going too well for the Switch, if they just forced the subscription on us now with no new games to justify it, things could go rapidly downhill. Of course I don't think they would just begin the subscription without any new game to support it, but will 1 or 2 be enough?

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PLATINUM7

It looks normal to me now that it's working again.

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Octane

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Kinda ironic how low budget that ad was for a company that made ''billions''. Let alone the fact that they need to crowdfund their crap mobile game.

Anyway, this ain't RollerCoaster Tycoon, don't buy into this kids.

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TuVictus

@OorWullie Completely agree. I don't think many people will pay for a subscription if Nintendo doesn't give us more to use with it. I see it as a win win, either we get more online capable games or we don't need to pay for an online sub. In my eyes, at least

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Haruki_NLI

Im starting to think the online payments arent happening

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Grumblevolcano

I think the only way the paid online wouldn't happen is if Switch's 3rd party support isn't as good as Nintendo had hoped. There's never going to be many 1st party online games, that's just the nature of Nintendo's IPs. You'll get the odd few like Mario Kart, Splatoon and Smash as well as some new IPs like ARMS but the vast majority of online multiplayer games will always be 3rd parties so if the 3rd party support isn't as good as Nintendo had hoped then the total number of online multiplayer games will by default be limited.

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NaviAndMii

@Therad True - I just think that it's bad P.R. for any company in this 'post-DOOM' era to use that as an excuse.

I'd have thought that they'd have tried to put a different kind of spin on it, that's all...but if they are just being honest - and that is the real reason - I don't think it looks great on them really.

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Therad

@NEStalgia if I owned a steakhouse in Seattle and people started to move away from Seattle at a rapid pace I sure as hell wouldn't start up another steakhouse there. I would probably try and set up a new store in the neighboring city, since that seemed to expand at a rapid pace.

When they started development on world switch was still a twinkle in Iwatas eyes. There was no specs, no nothing. Even if they knew about the concept (which I very much doubt), there is no way to know if it would be a success. It is highly risky to be early on a console, especially as an exclusive. if it tanks, the same happens with your game. And not only that, even if it is a success, the install base is low. This means thst if the game is expensive to make, you might not get a return on your investment. Far better to release it on a console that has hit it's stride.

The conspiracy theory in your post I won't bother with until you provide proof.

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Therad

@NaviAndMii it has always been a bad excuse if you do your own engine. But the reality is that Capcom isn't the healthiest company around, they will cut corners. It is quite possible they will look at porting it to the switch, but we have no way of knowing if their engine is scalable.

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NEStalgia

@Therad except more people were flocking to Seattle and away from the neighboring areas. At least the people who buy streak.

I.e. Japan had been, by far, the core market of the mh product. Seeking to expand the market is fine but nobody abandons reliable sales for wishful ones. We'll, except Capcom who tried that before and almost lost the company.... We'll assume they learned from that err.

Japan wasn't leaving Nintendo platforms. Nintendo platforms never stopped dominating there. Even wiiu was holding almost parallel numbers to ps4 there before they indicated it was being abandoned for switch (nx) and sales stalled. Not that wiiu sold well but ps4 hasn't really sold well... No console does there...... But wiiu wasnt lagging there..... It was an extremely close#2 tv box while 3ds crushed all.

Japan makes the primary buyer of mh, and Japan plays on Nintendo without having signaled a slowing. Not even Capcom is foolish enough to not realize that and not have an offset for that. The xx Port scramble shows a recognition of that.

There's too much credibility to the leaks with too much now verified advance information from what could only have come from a high level to not give them serious weight. Lack of proof means it can't fly in a courtroom, but even in a courtroom, killers often go free despite jurors knowing nearly for sure the defendant is guilty, merely because circumstantial evidence can't convict and isn't irrefutable proof. This isn't a court. We're not convicting Capcom. But we can still know radio waves are traveling in the air without being able to photograph them

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GrailUK

@NEStalgia Are we sure Capcom simply isn't trying a new strategy to increase sales? I mean, making it eye candy and putting I on the current highest selling console is a no brainer I would have thought. I may be wrong, but haven't MH sales been on a decline with recent instalments, they couldn't have put it on the Wii U because it bombed and everyone was worried mobile would kill the 3DS. There is no conspiracy theory, just many analysts got a lot of stuff wrong. I'm sure Capcom will put a MH on Switch at somepoint. That is becoming a no brainer, same for most games.

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darkfenrir

@GrailUK Edit: Changed the sales number from vgchartz to another one official from capcom

1. MH Freedom 3 (PSP) - 4.9m
2. MH X (3DS) - 4.3m
3. MH4U (3DS) - 4.1m
4. MH4 (3DS) - 4.1m
5. MH Freedom Unite (PSP) - 3.8m
6. MH3G (3DS) - 2.6m
7. MH Freedom 2 (PSP) - 2.4m
8. MH Tri (Wii) - 1.9m
9. MH XX (3DS) - 1.8m
10. MH Freedom (PSP) - 1.3m

The rest is below 1m sales total.

[Edited by darkfenrir]

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Therad

@GrailUK Just wanted to add that no one knew what Nintendo would do after the Wii U and 3DS. And the 3DS would be old by the time a new monster hunter would be out, and ps4 would be in its prime. Wii U also was overtaken by ps4 quite quickly, even in Japan.

@darkfenrir To me it seems Capcom wanted more sales and Nintendo didn't have a platform where that could happen.

Therad

darkfenrir

@Therad I'm only pointing out the sales ( o-o)

We'll just see what happen next anyway, in 2 more days it'll release and we'll see how it fares.

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SLIGEACH_EIRE

Nintendo envisions several Switch consoles per household

http://nintendotoday.com/nintendo-envisions-several-switch-co...

https://www.asahi.com/articles/ASKDW74W5KDWPLFA010.html

I feel like this is old news. Didn't he say this before?

Edit: He did.

Nintendo Hopes You’ll Love the Switch So Much, You’ll Buy More Than One

https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/248783-nintendo-hopes-youl...

I guess he's just repeating that hope.

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gcunit

@SLIGEACH_EIRE You felt it was old news, so you posted it anyway?

It's not even newsworthy in the first place, but don't let that stop you spamming the joint up...

@OorWullie It seems entirely possible to me that VC is going to be tied to the subscription in some way. It can't just be coincidence that we've not heard about either of them. Discounted or free VC with the subscription would entice a few I think.

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Frederic 2: Evil Strikes Back - Nintendo Switch Trailer

A definite nod to Smooth Criminal and Michael Jackson in there. Freddie Mercury as well. And the DeLorean.

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