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Haru17

Well, not for nothing, you could climb the ones in Skyward Sword.

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According to IGN there's going to be a trailer for BotW tomorrow, which I think is also the day of Nintendo's big investor meeting. So it might have some new info in it.

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Haru17

@-Blue- I'm gonna need that link from you, because Google is unyielding.

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Haru17

@-Blue- Huh, Snapchat? Brave new world.

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Nicolai

@-Blue-: "IGN Snapchat Story..." What does that even mean? Was that image posted by a writer from IGN? Why isn't it an article on their website?

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@Nicolai I'm not sure tbh. I'm like half asleep so I didn't really check everything like I usually do, but now that I did. The whole thing seems a bit fishy. I haven't found anyone else reporting on it nor have I managed to find the actual source or separate information. So take my original statement with a huge grain of salt. It was my own mistake.

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Haru17

Nah, it's no mistake. Their post certainly does indicate that there will be a trailer posted tomorrow. By who, I don't know. It's possible that they could have broken embargo on something, though.

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Nicolai

@-Blue-: I have no idea how to find out about IGN Snapchat story. I know nothing about Snapchat, and I don't want to have to download the app to find out. This one article mentions that IGN has a dedicated team for Snapchat content... but that's about it.

Well, I'm excited now regardless. I can't help it :3

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Haru17

@-Blue- @Nicolai Unfortunately, I just discovered that that image seems to be a shot from the Japanese trailer. Apparently IGN literally is teasing a trailer to their Snapchat audience:

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Nicolai

I'm in the middle of transcribing the E3 trailer music for piano. I dunno if anyone has found this yet, but right at 2:38 you can hear the piano play the familiar "do re mi fa sol" familiar with the zelda series. Kinda exciting for me anyway, cuz I've been looking and haven't found any quotes in the trailer music until now.

For those of you that know note names and not solfege, if the original Zelda theme is played in C minor like the trailer music, it would go "C G, CCDEbFG," and the quick CDEbFG is recognizable by itself, and commonly used as a quick motif in Zelda music.

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Haru17

Nicolai wrote:

I'm in the middle of transcribing the E3 trailer music for piano. I dunno if anyone has found this yet, but right at 2:38 you can hear the piano play the familiar "do re mi fa sol" familiar with the zelda series.

I didn't hear that before! It's almost buried between the two louder sounds bookending it. Anyway, I'm super musically illiterate, but I dig acoustics so much — much more than I used to when I first got into music with one Green Day and five System of a Down albums. So keep us posted with your findings! I would love to see how that snippet of the Zelda theme compares...

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Nicolai

@Haru17: Well, since you asked.

I gotta say, that weird silence at 2:04 has always bugged me since I first watched it. I assumed it was a disruption in the live-stream at first, but it has to be on purpose if its still on this Youtube page. And the recent alternate trailers on the website have it too! Its so bizarre, isn't it? Every time I listen to it, it sounds like a mistake.

But this games music is littered with symbolism, mostly referencing the game's themes of emptiness and isolation, and forgotten past. For example, we know of at least 3 instances where characters/locations are introduced by broken fragments of music that may represent who or what they are. The subtlety of these motifs are excellent, too! Just enough notes in the theme for you to recognize it. And it reminds me so much of something that is weathered and broken so much that it now only has just enough of what it used to be in order to be recognizable to us/Link.

In transcribing this music, I'm finding a lot of these symbols all over the place. The one hint of the original Zelda theme is 2 seconds long and barely noticeable. Maybe that's a way of telling us that this game is so far away from the traditional story of the hero in past Zelda games. The chord at the very, very end (with the lonely master sword) has a piano chord where each hand is at each extreme of the piano's range. Composers love to do this to symbolize emptiness, because the ear can hear all of that empty space in between. The use of 057 chords are all over; to spare you a lesson on music theory, I'll just say that they're very spacious chords. And these are just some examples.

So, back to the weird silence at 2:04, which definitely isn't your normal silence. Even when things go completely silent, the ear is used to hearing a little bit of reverberation in any circumstance, but my audio file shows that that moment is suddenly and abruptly at zero for as long as its last. It got me thinking of how this very unnatural silence pertains to the Calamity Ganon. He is rather unnatural, isn't he? And he's probably the cause of all of this empty ruin, that used to be full of vibrancy. Or maybe its a sign that his soul is hollow and empty, and that he doesn't have the intellect and self-awareness that his previous form had?

EDIT: I suppose it does happen again at 2:44, but it seems a bit more natural then. When this happens, a purple-glowing guardian is charging up its laser. Keep in mind that, if the theory that purple equals Calamity Ganon is correct, this silence can once again be symbolizing the Calamity Ganon.

Or... maybe it really is a mistake. What do you all think?

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Haru17

@Nicolai I don't understand at all why people are fixating on that pause so much. Plenty of songs have used silence for effect, as the Breath of the Wild theme uses it for Calamity Ganon and the guardians.

But I can definitely hear the emptiness. A lot of the tracks sound very slow and sparse in their melodies. It sounds "fresh," almost. It's all very light like that — what we've heard so far at least — straying far away from the deeper, more heroic and emotional compositions of past titles.

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Nicolai

@Haru17: I guess I didn't understand people were talking about the pause so much, cuz I haven't heard anybody even mention it yet. It's normal to use silence in a piece, but its just so unusual how it was done, for it to make me think it was a mistake.

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Haru17

@Nicolai Yeah, there's this whole reddit thread about it.

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TuVictus

I'm gonna make a guess and say at some point the music is "filled in". Either via time travel or continuous progress through the game.

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Octane

Awesome.

That's one big plateau of emptiness though..

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erv

So they built this awesome game world, only to create Breath of the Void? We'll probably see it populated a bit more in final form. I wouldn't be surprised if they intentionally leave stuff out when sharing.

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