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jariw

Nicolai wrote:

As for difficulty, it would be nice and more immersive if the game was difficult all on it's own the first time around. After all, when you're out in the wild in real life, you're taking every opportunity to keep yourself alive, and you're not keeping track of silly rules to keep things interesting.

Deaths have occurred during the Treehouse stream, but that's a totally superficial difficulty in this kind of large open world adventure. In a world this vast, with virtually unlimited choices to make, the real difficulty will be on actually making progress in the environments.

However, if the AI for the enemies is too bad, so the enemies just feels like stupid puppets, a grand adventure like this will soon become very boring to the player.

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PK_Boss11

@shaneoh @DefHalan But imagine the thought. Link was a little Hylian boy who thought he was part of the Koriki people. God knows what was going on in his mind when he knew he had to fight Ganon. It doesn't make sense how willingly Link follows through in the plan of beating Ganon

Yes I ment frozen 😂

About the fairy revival, Link's not exactly hundred percent anymore, no items or anything. I meant to say frozen

I think that adding a branch of the story where Link runs and hides is a good idea. It makes the story seem more realistic.

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veeflames

In terms of difficulty, Nintendo has to find that balance between providing players with information and letting players figure out stuff on their own glances at the over world Well... Nintendo shouldn't have any problem finding that balance... right?
As for where this game takes place in the timeline, what's there to speculate on? This game takes place in the distant future. Developed technology (Sheikah slate, those spider robot things and the word "authenticating...")Rusted Master Sword (freakin' rusted. No one must have used it in a long while). A Hyrule in ruins (well, maybe not all Hyrule..) A world that looks like it's in the process of regeneration. Yep, futuristic Zelda.

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Socar

Vee_Flames wrote:

In terms of difficulty, Nintendo has to find that balance between providing players with information and letting players figure out stuff on their own glances at the over world Well... Nintendo shouldn't have any problem finding that balance... right?
As for where this game takes place in the timeline, what's there to speculate on? This game takes place in the distant future. Developed technology (Sheikah slate, those spider robot things and the word "authenticating...")Rusted Master Sword (freakin' rusted. No one must have used it in a long while). A Hyrule in ruins (well, maybe not all Hyrule..) A world that looks like it's in the process of regeneration. Yep, futuristic Zelda.

I don't think balance is the problem here. Foe all we know, this game so far is doing a simplified version of Xenoblade only with Zelda characters in it so I'm sure all gamers can enjoy this game assuming they are willing to get used to the new direction Zelda is taking place here.

Honestly, difficulty in Zelda games is just not what Zelda is really good at. Hero modes don't change the challenge much since you can still use upgrades to make it easier to beat the modes. I that its because of this, players like to challenge themselves to do something that others won't even dare doing.

Like will I be able to beat Ganon without the silver arrows? Can I beat the game without using weapons?

I just wonder what the next Zelda will be like after Breadth of the Wild. It'll be very risky to do a step backwards reverting back to the usual Zelda since this game seems to overshadow all the old Zelda games.

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DefHalan

@PK_Boss11 why would Link (who has the Tri Force of Courage) run and hide?

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

Socar

Ok so I don't know if I can post this but apparently, Jim Sterling rants about Nintendo's excuse for not having a female link.

Warning! Has some fowl languages!

Honestly, why does it matter if Nintendo gives a lame excuse for a feature that's not a feature but rather something that just doesn't work out? I mean, I'm not bothered to ask Nintendo to make a female Mario, I'm not bothered to ask Nintendo to make the all pokemon have both genders.

Why is this even a thing? Its not even gonna help Nintendo make the game better.

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PK_Boss11

@DefHalan Well first off, who knows if Link actually believes in that stuff, I mean look at Han Solo in Star Wars and Luke at first didn't think the force was real.

Plus then I can also say well how come Zelda can't defeat Ganon on her own because she is wise with the Triforce of Wisdom. Just because Link has the power to be courageous doesn't make him that.

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Socar

@PK_Boss11 Because her wisdom makes her realize that she can't single handedly defeat Ganon?

And furthermore, why compare a silent character to talking characters/characters with personality?

Link's personality is plain dull and it makes the main avatar characters in FE better than Link.

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DefHalan

@PK_Boss11 Because Ganon is Power. Zelda might be wise but that isn't all it takes to destroy great evil, you also need the courage to take on something that is more powerful than yourself. With Wisdom and Courage the Evil Power can be defeated. I don't think it fits Link's character to run away and hide, it would mean Link does not posses the Tri Force of Courage. It would make the Tri Force meaningless. However, if Ganon cast a dark spell that sent Link to the Future, it would make a lot more sense. On the other hand, I really like the idea of all the timelines coming together, it would be interesting to see how they are all connected again and how they move forward.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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Haru17

Socar wrote:

I mean, I'm not bothered to ask Nintendo to make a female Mario...

If you don't understand why that's a false equivalency you're not going to understand the issue regardless of how many times it's explained to you.

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Haru17

-Red- wrote:

It's not an issue to begin with.

Anyways, I wanted to post this here: https://twitter.com/NinEverything/status/743493942373679105
Just shows how much people still care about Zelda.

Not to mention the endless E3 lines despite their huge booth.

Also, it's worth noting that the fact Skyrim is still trending for just a rerelease is a large part of why EAD 3 has taken this direction with Breath of the Wild.

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PK_Boss11

@DefHalan Well Ganon is not satisfied with the Triforce of Power. And technically, the only reason Link wins every time is he has two Triforce pieces working together.

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Haru17

I don't recall any of the 'idiots' in this thread mentioning the damsel in distress trope in the last 100 pages. Moreover, the people who complain about a gender select option are the one's you're not supposed to listen to.

The bottom line is that Aonuma's comments are something that he and no one else believes: an explanation made up to avoid a straight "no." Not to mention that this is further nonsense after they let Omega Force make Linkle. If they didn't want to make female Link and they didn't want to disappoint people by not doing so then they shouldn't have raised the question by releasing that character in the first place. They themselves set the wheels in motion.

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-Green-

After thinking about it, I still think the whole thing is a non-issue. It should have no significance whatsoever what Link's gender is. Nintendo may have unintentionally contributed to the whole femLink thing with the concept of Linkle, but they didn't begin it. It was a rumor that had begun since the reveal of the game, and it only grew more and more over time, with people continuously adding more fuel to the fire.

Of course though, Nintendo should've been more upfront about it and simply denied the rumors, since they were aware of them.

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DefHalan

@PK_Boss11 right, but that doesn't really hve anything to do with our conversation

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

PK_Boss11

@DefHalan Yeah it does, because you said if Link has the Triforce of Courage he has to be courageous, but Ganon is not satisfied with just power, so Link can be unhappy he has to save the world and run away

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DefHalan

@PK_Boss11 Ganon has the Tri Force of Power and because of that he thinks he is the most powerful. He uses his power to gain more power. Link running away wouldn't fit his character while Ganon chasing after more power fits Ganon's character. Link is courageous, and is willing to fit against incredible odds, he would not run away.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

PK_Boss11

Well by that argument, I can also say Link can run away because it would take courage to face the ridicule from the people of Hyrule. Perhaps the Guardians protected the Royal Family and that's why they don't like Link

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