Topic: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

@WaterKirby1964 I haven’t played in a wile but the thing about sora is how easy he is to play, and gets so much reward for doing so, so it’s not like he isn’t good, but it might be hate? And no one wants to be an outcast, I’m not really sure because there not really bad per say.

Tho I see a lot more sora players then banjo players.

Banjo was another character who was really wanted but his move set is kinda meh.

@Snatcher Oh, I see. Speaking of Banjo & Kazooie players, even if not many, at least there are some people, myself included, that do play Banjo & Kazooie in Smash. That's why Banjo & Kazooie is one of my 3 Smash mains, along with Kazuya and Sephiroth

@WaterKirby1964 I love banjo as well, I’m able to use him okish, I feel like banjo has to put waaay to much work in to get a kill, and I know that sounds funny seeing as he has wonder wing, but no one wants to just sit there using that move, plus it’s easy to counter anyway.

You play seph too? I love his long sword, makes for great edge guarding.

@WaterKirby1964 I play Sora every so often. His floatiness is both a blessing and a curse: when you're in the groove and smacking your opponent around, those jumps are absolutely heavenly. When you're the one getting smacked however, having such a predictable jump arc can be disastrous (basically the same pros and cons of Mewtwo/Yoshi now that I think about it). Still a big fan of him though, Forward-Air especially is so satisfying to fully land.

@Snatcher Yes. That's right. Even though I'm more of an FFX fan, Sephiroth is my favorite FFVII character and I am a huge fan of him

@Fizza Agree with you 100%

@Fizza Hmm. Very interesting

I'm just happy Pyra is in the game. I started playing Smash more often when Pyra got added

@TommyTendo That's awesome to hear. Congrats

So, I just got done playing some Ult online after having dropped it for at least 6 months, for old time's sake.

Yikes. I forgot how horrible the online feels to play, especially compared to offline. It feels terrible; I played like 5 matches and each one felt like it had about a second of delay. I'm honestly still surprised that the online was never really improved, especially after the whole #FixUltimateOnline thing went down. But, hey, it's Nintendo. Can I really expect much from their online?

@DarthNocturnal Yeah I think the movement itself was pretty pointless in the long run, but I'm just surprised that Nintendo never considered a bit of the overwhelming amount of negative attention that the online was getting.

@DarthNocturnal Remember #FreeMelee? God that feels like an eternity ago at this point.

@DarthNocturnal It was basically that Nintendo had shut down massive tournaments like The Big House because they were using a modded version of Melee called Slippi that allowed the game to be played online (keep in mind that this was DURING the worst bit of the pandemic). Naturally the Melee community, being such a tight-nit group who were well aware of Nintendo's disapproval of their scene, were furious with such a blatant attempt to try and stop their game from continuing on during such a critical period for fighting games and thus began to protest in their masses. Soon everyone else began to rally the same chant and it even got to a point where Nintendo cancelled a Splatoon tournament because the finalists had changed their Switch names to #FreeMelee, further fanning the flames.

And then one fateful night in December, things....umm.... stopped dead in their tracks let's say.

Things petered out quickly after that unfortunately (seriously though, how the hell do you respond to ******** SEPHIROTH). However, relations seem to have been amended in recent times. Melee has been getting in person tournaments with record breaking attendance/viewership and, in a still to this day unprecedented move, Nintendo have partnered with Panda Global to host a new circuit with both large prize pools and tournaments for both Ultimate AND Melee.

To summarise: things got very awkward very quickly but things seem to be on the up thankfully.

I'm always surprised at how different the online experience tends to be for Nintendo games. I recall Super Smash Bros and Super Mario Maker 2 both having poor online but then games like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and Splatoon 2 are pretty great online from what I remember.

@Fizza I remember #FreeMelee... I don't think I've used this thread before... #Pyra-Main

@Vortexeo Meanwhile, the online for Mario Strikers is back to being mediocre (haven't played the full game but did play the online test where everything more or less would just CHUG). It feels like they're rolling a dice at this point with which games get good online and which don't.

@Fizza Honestly you're right lol that's so baffling. I remember hearing that Mario Golf Super Rush had good online so the fact that Mario Strikers doesn't is weird lol. They're both Mario sports titles 😂

@Vortexeo Yeah, I think it has to do with Nintendo using Peer-to-peer connections for some games, like Ultimate, SMM2, Strikers, etc. instead of server-based connections like what Splatoon 2 and MK8D use. It's really too bad, because in the case of both Ultimate and SMM2, I love the base games, but playing online in each of them is so painful that I end up just dropping them after a certain amount of time. I would love to play some more Mario Maker levels with people online, but the experience 90% of the time is just a slog.

U think we'll ever get a new smash game cause it seems like Nintendo isn't making a new console anytime soon

I dunno its just the game isn't getting anymore updates 😕 and I dunno Its a interesting question