Topic: Pokémon Scarlet & Pokémon Violet

Best selling game is only because of how popular the Pokemon franchise is. Nothing more, nothing less. Add on top that in Japanese culture people simply don't critize any flaws/problems like we do in the west. They are very passive in that regard.

Gamefreak can just put out an empty cartridge with the Pokemon logo on it and it would still sell millions of copies, before people even notice.

And this is the problem. With Scarlet/Violet selling so well, no matter the abysmal state of the game. It just gives a signal to Gamefreak and the Pokemon Company, that they can put even less effort in their next game and still get away with it.

This is not good at all for us as gamers who want a high quality game (what you have come to expect from Nintendo), when people acting like blind rabbit fans of the franchise and keep buying everything TPC/Game Freak throws at them, no matter what.

So you can very well expect and even worse game next time around. Even more unfinished and probably runs just as horribly performance wise.

@Jeronan : It's not just that. The now accepted practice of releasing buggy and/or incomplete games and patching them later is a practice that the industry has become all too complacent with, and I suspect that developers/publishers pace themselves accordingly. Standards are dropping across the industry, and I suspect that it will take an industry-wide crash or some other kind of wake-up call for things to improve in any meaningful way.

I have always said that the fact that BD/SP launched unfinished is absolutely pathetic and sets a horrible precedent for the franchise moving forward. Scarlet/Violet's performance issues is just another manifestation of that sort of complacency.

While I am not excusing the technical state of SV at all, I do think the Cyberpunk connections are a little thin.

Yes, CP77 was borderline unplayable on launch, but that almost wasn't the problem in that case, it was the missale of the actual product.

CDPR basically lied to us through their marketing for almost a decade about how CP77 was this revolutionary evolution of what you think a videogame to be. The poor technical state and the bugs really distracted from what a middling game Cyberpunk actually was beneath it all, with it not really living up to a single promise it made during its media cycle. The killer was not the technical state, but the realisation that the actual game just wasn't that good.

I do think SV suffers from this too to an extent, but I feel like the difference here is Game Freak said they were gonna make an open world Pokemon game and they did that. Nowhere in the marketing did I see GF promising to create the next evolution of the Pokemon game, rewriting everything we ever thought we knew about Pokemon games!!!!!!! You can be mad at the state of the product of course, but I'd say the product beneath that is what was as sold and that is a small but vital difference.

Done!

Please do not say that "gameplay" is more important than resolution, story or anything like that because in THIS particular case this DOES NOT apply.

There is no excuse for this cheap quality that looks like it is made from bunch of middle school kids.

@Zuljaras dude I refunded the game that says a lot coming from me someone who bought ROAR full price.

@Kermit1Pineapple Really? I just saw your comment and had to put that here!

Good for you!

@EaglyTheKawaiiShika Well it is even difficult to "criticize" such issues

I really hope they could patch the textures and the pop-ins and release DLCs but I think they will not do that simply because it sells well no matter what.

@EaglyTheKawaiiShika I also love Pokemon and I own almost all of them and love playing them but when something is clearly wrong it must be said. The release state of this game is criminal

And the worst part is that is selling so well like a dumb Fifa or CoD game.

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I've been looking at a lot of the new moves from SV over the past few days and one that immediately caught my attention was an Ice-Type status move called Chilly Reception. To quote from both the game and Serebii:

'The user tells a chillingly bad joke before switching places with a party Pokémon in waiting. This summons a snowstorm lasting five turns.'

Not only is this absolutely hilarious, what makes it even more amazing is the Pokemon that can learn it. With it being an Ice-Type move, who do you think would learn it? Glaceon? Cetitan? Abomasnow? NOPE: it's goddamn SLOWKING.

I, like you probably are right now, was immensely puzzled as to why a Pokemon with almost nothing to do with Ice-types gets a move that automatically summons their weather in addition to switching out for free. And then it dawned on me: it's a reference to Pokemon the Movie 2000.

@RenanKJ just wondering if you are playing on handheld or TV? My first play through looked terrible but after changing the Switch’s TV output to 1080p (was set on auto) and resetting the game it seems to be running better. Not perfect though.

Also there are reports if you migrate your game data over from SD card to System Memory it improves the frame rate. Has anyone confirmed this?

Something odd i noticed is most of my performance issues just... went away? no patch or anything, but the more i completed in the game, the less performance problems have been occuring and the smoother framerate i'm getting.

Its almost like getting the stakes for the 4 legends and completing the dex fixed something? I still drop frames like crazy at midnight when the game resets but now my tera raids, battles, picnic, and exploring all seem night and day better.

I went from playing a roblox server in the final area to shiny hunting one of the new mons there and never noticeably dropped frames at all the entire time in the 40 minutes i was hunting it. Its as if progressing post game stuff removed running scripts/events that made the game struggle to load anything.

I was foaming at the mouth the other night though, as my game oh so wonderfully decided to crash as i was completing my dex and set me 40 mons back. Dex complete, stakes removed, some gyms elimated (post game stuff), haven't felt like my switch was going to explode for about a day now. I'm still paranoid saving twice (because i actually did save and it ignored it when it crashed).

@exit I played on TV. Thanks for the tips! I'll try them to see if it makes a difference — although I think these are already my current settings.

I somehow have 42 hours in this game.

The only thing that kinda bothers me is how Pokémon keep their eyes open while asleep.

A question for anyone here who may know the answer: I'm going to be shiny hunting Dunsparce once I eventually beat the game since I've somehow never actually gotten one before and, with a brand new evo, I figure now is the perfect time. The cool thing about Dudunsparce though is that it comes in two forms: one that's 2 segments long and a much rarer one that's 3 segments long (exciting I know). Naturally, being the psychopath that I am, I want a shiny version of the rarer 3 segmented one and I'm curious: does anyone know what determines the form Dunsparce takes on once it evolves? Is it a case of Wurmple where it's literally random or is it pre-determined the moment you catch the mon? Because if it's the latter then I think I'm going to be hearing this song on repeat for a very long time....

@Fizza it’s a random value defined upon generation, so yes Wurmple style.

Either they are fish or something, doesn't have eyelid. 😶

@Eel : That's such a baffling regression. Due to the "drowsiness" mechanic in Legends Arceus, I'll give that one a pass, but every other game since Gen freaking V have depicted Pokémon with their eyes closed.

I am on the fence on this game. I am trying to finish Legends Arceus right now but I've seen parts of S/V and it looks like it'll be a decent game in 1-2 months with patches. However, I need to know these questions to decide whether to get this or the Portal collection.
1 Are Decidueye (Original) and Silvally In this game? They're my favourite pokemon and legendary respectively and I have shinies of both that I want to use. Whether the Alola starters in particular are here is going to heavily influence whether I get this.
2 Is it fun to explore the world? Is it anything like botw map-wise?
3 is the story as good as people say?
4 Where can I get a good deal on it?