Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance Confirmed For Switch, Adds New Chapter & Storyline

I thought this would be more like Apocalypse. Now my original copy is kind of pointless.

Is there a dlc option to buy it separately or is this a new release entirely? Also i assume this is the base game + new content then?

I'm glad it releases on other plattforms as well. Already play the original on Switch and really liked it but it really could benefit from a better resolution + framerate

@superguy123 It's Atlus we are talking about so I wouldn't expect them to offer the new content as DLC

What does it means for the owners of the original game? Persona 5 The Royal situation?

Kinda weird, do you think they will release the extra content as a paid DLC? I don’t think I plan on completely repurchasing this game.

@mariomaster96 well if i look at persona 5 royal, it was basically a new game with significant changes, i wonder if this is gonna be the same?

I really hate this practice smh. I loved SMT V but I'm not going to rebuy the whole game just for the new content.

I know this isn't the first time Atlus has done this but an enhanced rerelease on the same platform the game was originally released, with no way to buy the new content separately for people who already own the game, is baffling to me.

It's Castlevania 64 and Castlevania: Legacy of Darkness all over again! AND I'M HERE FOR IT!! Definitely buying this! Hopefully there's an improvement to the performance also — the original is completely playable and nowhere near the mess that is Pokémon Scarlet/Violet but it'd be cool for a boost in performance to smooth it over.

They knew what they were doing by putting the ATLUS logo first thing in the trailer. I was expecting Persona 3 Reload…

Interesting. The summary makes it sound like the new story content is entirely optional rather than woven into the original story. Also sounds like it will have a stronger focus on moral choices which I quite like compared to the original's execution of player choice. Not sure where I'm picking this up yet but I'm very excited 🙂

as much as i would have liked to see persona 3 reload instead this is pretty neat

@Dogorilla Completely agree but unfortunately they must make enough money from this kind of practice to carry on doing it.

I was kinda confused...is this also going to be dlc if I have the original?

@Aurumonado that's what I was hoping for too, in it being more like SMT4 Apocalypse.

@superguy123
No, they could of sold DLC zfor original owners of P5, but Atlus wanted to charge full price for same game with new content.

Its anti consumer honestly. Seitch owners that bought SMTV should get option of buying new content as DLC as they already paid $60 for majority of whats in the game.

Seems a little confusing the way they presented it in the direct whether it was a full release or DLC, but yeah based on past Atlus releases def a brand new full-priced version

Regardless, I had planned on buying the original recently but I guess I'll just wait for this version

Atlus gonna Atlus.

Will they improve the performance or not is the question.

...so why did I buy the original? Even this new version has DLC and a Digital Deluxe Edition.

Nobody wins! It's like SMT in real life!

I'm glad to have waited on buying this game. To be fair the original was constantly on sale for at/around $35 (including 3 weeks after initial launch) so don't feel too bad for early adopters. Still pretty scummy though.

Atlus did a livestream that discussed what's being added/changed, and it does seem like a "SMT V: Royal" treatment.

For those interested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4pcUK6_-dg

tl;dw,
At the beginning of the game, you'll get to chose between the "Canon of Creation" (the original story) and the "Canon of Vengeance", which "follows the scenario of the original, but with significant changes in the middle and later stages of the story." Maybe a new area of Da'at; not sure if it's a new region or something smaller - the verbiage was kind of odd. Also includes QOL improvements, new fusion attacks, new DLC that features Dagda from SMT IV:A, old DLC, etc.

If you're playing on the Switch, you can bring over 3 demons. 3.

Gamefreak is sitting in the corner taking notes right now lol

Conflicted on:

1. If I buy this at all since I have the original and there's no DLC upgrade
2. If I buy this on Switch (preferred) or PC

If the rumors are true about the Switch successor being able to boost performance of old Switch games, I hope this game will take advantage of it.

@anoyonmus I hope so but the switch gameplay during the partner showcase looked the same as the original, performance-wise.

Can I get the new content separately as DLC or I need to buy another physical copy? If the latter, guess I won't experiencing that content #shrug

The old Atlus beta tet release! Some things from the PS2 truly do never die.

@illmatic20xx not trying to defend this practice or rereleasing these “complete editions” but Royal could not be simple dlc. It wasn’t just a new scenario tacked on, there were many changes made to mechanics, dungeon layouts, boss fights, confidants, the way some characters were handled specifically… etc. it went well beyond additional content that could be dlc. If they do as much with this as they did with Royal I’ll consider it, but I’m not particularly happy, would’ve much rather had a brand new game set in SMT V rather than getting an enhanced version even if it’s much improved the way Royal was for P5

@JohnnyMind
im hoping that down the line this version does make it to the switch successor (along with an option for people who bought it on og switch to "upgrade" for free like with some cross-gen games on ps5/xboxone)

though as it is its nice that its going multiplatform since im unsure whether this version on OG switch would get much in the way of improvements when it comes to performance, it may be like with pokemon S/V where the issues are likely too ingrained in the game to where a meaningful "fix" would be possible without completely redoing it.

I want to know why Atlus does this with their games. Shortly after I played Persona 5, they announced Persona 5 Royal. I had no interest after playing the original game for 100 hours. It would be nice if it were released as DLC or expansion maybe.

Yeah, I enjoyed the original release, but I'm not going to buy the whole thing over again for some new story content.

Good for those who haven't played it yet, though.

I'm not happy of this, I've buyed the physical copy of the original just a couple of weeks ago on sale, hopefully they release a dlc for it.
In general I don't like this trend of re-releasing games with "definitive edition" or "deluxe edition", it just feel that they make me buy an incomplete version most of the time.

I'll pass on that one...

I own the original and DLC and can't upgrade to Vengeance, what's the point of buying all that again just for some content I can watch on youtube?

"Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance is launching on 21st June 2024 and it's going multiplatform."

Great, so why do we care that it's going multiplatform on a Nintendo-focused site?

I'll be getting it, but I hope I can just buy it as DLC.

Waiting on a steep discount. I bought the original day one so in no hurry to buy it again. I may get it on Xbox just so I don’t feel like I am double dipping. Sigh. Last time Atlus. Last time…

This is not surprising considering a multiplatform version of this game was leaked 2 years ago when the game was datamined. It's just a matter of time until Atlus rework everything. I'm glad Switch still got a version of the updated game but hey at least now everyone could enjoy the game with a little extra on the side.

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/11/datamine-uncovers-references-to-ps4-and-pc-in-switch-exclusive-shin-megami-tensei-v

Absolutely loved the original and poured countless hours of my gaming soul into it. One of my fav games of the last few years. Tempted to get it again as the definitive edition but would have much prefered this as a DLC, as ppl have said. So this is like P5R then? Disappointed it wasn't more like SMT IV Apocalypse

I had fun with this game, but not nearly enough to purchase again for a little extra content

How will this work on Switch? WIll they do something like Torna – The Golden Country, where this new content would be on separate cartridge, or they'll simply sell us definitive version

@IronMan30 I'm checking the news here and I'm happy that the sequel is going multiplatform because I haven't played it on Switch and will play this definitive version on Xbox. Similarly, on PX are reporting the Xbox games that are coming to Switch. I think it's perfectly fine.

@Banjo- yeah, I never liked that from either site. I go to IGN for multiplatform news, don't really care what other systems a game is going to if it's on the site that covers said console.

Now THIS is a very smart way to announce an exclusivity break.
It's a Persona 5 Royal case. Yours is mine...

I'll double dip with this one, mainline SMT is still pretty niche and needs our support.

@Dembilaja All the extra contents use pre-existing assets so not sure why they wouldn't be able to fit on the cartridge. This is just the more complete version of SMT5 similar to how Persona 5 Royal was to Persona 5 Not-Royal.

Guess I'm not buying this. If the P3 Reload data mine is any good indicator, Atlus might be shifting models soon and hopefully this is the end of these enhanced versions. Especially if this one bombs.

I hope, for once, this can be dlc. I am not paying full price for the same game again.

I am playing this on PC, no way Im buying for my Switch again with a subpar framerate

SMT V was the FE Engage of its series, extremely fun to play, full of promise but a lacklustre narrative held it back. V had a lot of potential in some of its ideas, so I'm hoping this will be a chance to right those wrongs.

The new content look interesting, and the Narrative in the original was kinda weak, so I'm hoping there's enough new content to justify getting this version.

So it's a remix situation, which just happens to coincide with the game going multiplatform. Huh. Almost guaranteed that I'll pick this up, but might try to sell the original game in a month or two.

I don t really get timed console exclusivity...this sucks for Switch owners, but glad it goes multiplat. All Atlus games should be available to everyone.
Weird timing too. Speculating here, but this will release a few months before Switch 2 releases. I don t see myself buying this day one...like I did for the original release...but I would have done it for an enhanced version for Switch 2.
They could have waited a little longer for nintendo fans. It would have been better for everyone I guess. Timed exclusive will give us the worst version.

This is annoying. People who own SMT V should be able to just buy the new storyline separately...

@Serpenterror Well, there was content that could have easily fit ot cartridge, I'm talking about Japanese voice overs, yet it was free DLC instead.
I assume, because it was quite hefty in size, that they've cut it out
so game would take less space, and could be printed on cheaper cartridges of less size.
So that's why I thought maybe they do something like XC2 did with it's expansion now with this version

Oh, I never did get round to playing the original…so this is good for me 😛

I wouldn't be surprised if the release date gets changed since June 21st is when Shadow of the Erdtree drops.

I loved the original SMTV game, but I'm not about to repurchase it just for a non-cannon storyline.

Highly recommend this to anyone who hasn’t played the original. I really loved the original. However it’s disappointing if there really is no option to just upgrade with dlc.

I wish Atlus did this as they did with SMT IV Apocalypse.

Even though it was leaked prior, I'm excited. I loved the original version, was my personal GOTY 2021.

However, I will not be getting this on the Switch, but on PS5. I'd rather enjoy the game with a crisp 60fps. And I gotta give that beefy PS5 system some use outside Persona 3 Reload.

This time I get it on PC (and play it on that and on Steam Deck when not on PC)

Played Persona 5 Royal and SMTV on Switch, finished both but it's so weird that a game like SMTV has more performance issues than P5R, while SMTV was MADE for the Switch.

Also ton of other games I am going to play on the Switch, currently busy with the Apollo Trilogy, next will be Unicorn Overlord and after that I am going to finish some VNs I got.

Plenty to play on the Switch, so not getting SMTV on it doesn't make me use it less.

@IceCatraz awesome. Played the original on Switch and it struggled...best news of the direct is I can play this on my series x and finish it without feeling sick from the frame rate and soft rez.

I have the original but yet to play it. I say I will pick this up on PC.

The announcement email I got from Atlus says physical version for Switch. So I would think it's not DLC.

If this isn't DLC that's a pretty petty move by Atlus. If it is a full purchase again I might as well get it on PC when it is like $5 a month after release.

Hmm, well, since surprisingly Atlus games go on sale later and goes for a very good price nowadays (including physical copies.) I will wait.

@Pipulitoch Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance is not a time exclusive, only the vanilla version was. Also the reason why the vanilla version was a Switch exclusive was cause Nintendo help fund them game and Atlus still had good relationship with Nintendo. Nowadays that doesn't apply anymore, unless Nintendo fund them for exclusivity, all games from Atlus will be release for all platforms and PC.

I'm fine with buying the same game again, as long as I can choose the alternative path straight from the beginning. I already did all endings the first time around.

lol they did another Persona 5 Royal. Upgraded version with no upgrade path. Atlus being Atlus. If anyone is double dipping you might as well wait for a price drop like what happened with P5R.

@Bizaster give up lol. its not coming, and if it is itd be on switch 2

@SilentHunter382 same here but i was thinking of getting it for xbox. 4k 60fps will be very nice

@JR150 If its significant content then it's (kinda) justified. Persona 5 Royal was 60 when it launched while og P5 was 20 at that point. It sucks that there's no upgrade path, but that's just Atlus for you. Not much to be done

Atlus' scummy practices strike again. And I bet there's day one DLC too. Honestly, I hope they go bankrupt. Such an anti-consumer company.

I only started playing Persona around this time last year, but playing an SMT game has been on my docket since I finished the modern Persona trilogy so this definitely has me interested. I haven't heard the best things about SMT5 as opposed to 3, 4 or 4 Apocalypse, but hey it's my first one so it just needs to meet my currently non-existent standards. The new content seems interesting as well, always love when an already massive game gets a huge expansion that lets it absorb even more of my life! And though it sucks for people who bought it already, I can ever so slightly commend Atlus for putting the new content in a bubble separate from the main game. One of my biggest complaints with P5R now is that I need to play the whole game to get to the Royal content which is far and away my favorite story in the whole series, so even if it being a standalone story makes it even more odd that it's not DLC, this is the best we can get for a kinda gross business model. Either way, definitely my highlight from the Direct and a possible pre-order for me.

@Edwirichuu
Not really justified in the slightest. I'm not paying 60 dollars for a game I've already played.

I'll just wait for it to go on sale for less than half price. I'm not paying full price for a story expansion.

@JR150 Then why are you crying about it lol. Exactly, we got screwed over, all we can do is wait for a sale. Million dollar companies won't change their ways and they know we'll buy it anyways...or you could just, not buy it

Why are people moaning because this site updated its users with information that it's going multiplatform?

First of all it's new information about this game which people should know, it also informs users of multiple consoles who visit this site that they now have choice to what console to get it on. It was also a Switch Console exclusive so of course it going multiplatform is important news just as Xbox games going multiplatform was also.

Some people really need to chill if they're letting stuff like this aggravate them.

Oh cool, now I can finally buy the Complete Edi-

"Additional Downloadable Content
Downloadable content featuring new demons will be distributed simultaneously on the release date."

Ah yes, I forgot. Atlus.

Atlus has been real scummy with it's dlc practices lately.

@iLikeUrAttitude Always has been, lol

I only got the game because everyone is pretty, I would have even bought this as a dlc, I'm not going to buy this. I honestly thought they were doing something else over these 3 years. (It would be nice to port their older games with localization)
I'm just going to watch a playthrough to look at my pretty protag & nahobino from now on.

People say it's like Persona 5 Royal. Since we talk about Shin Megami Tensei series which predates Persona series, I'd rather say it's like Shin Megami Tensei III Nocturne Maniax on PS2 in Japan (in the USA and Europe, we got directly this version without the vanilla version).

@RainbowGazelle Since 2013, Atlus is a part of Sega, so it can't easily bankrupt.

Bought the OG as a preorder back then and I really enjoyed it. Was pretty excited to see this on the Direct as I thought Switch owners could get it as a DLC. No point in buying it again full price. I'll wait for a deep sale on Steam instead also for better resolution and framerates.

This is hilarious. When Persona 6 comes out we'll all have to wait for the proper version. Atlus needs to stop doing this and release finished games. Still buying this though since I don't have the original. Am I encouraging this behavior? Probably.

I am kind of pissed off with the vanilla game which I have not finished yet. Though I bought it day one the box deluxe edition with the artbook and the bag and the CD.
However I have not bought the DLC for it.

I am not going to by SMTVV for the full price. Maybe I will get it at a discount. Provided I want to play it again.

THe game is great. But all this 'pokemon' process is a little bit annoying by the second half of the game. Though the battle system, exploration, ost are great.

I'm kind of glad I waited to get this game now. But I feel bummed out for those who got the original and are now left with an incomplete game.

I feel conflicted about Atlus, on one hand they are my favorite Japanese publisher, and on the other hand they are greedy as hell and offer no upgrade path. They even asked full price for Person 5 Royal 60 fps upgrade on PS5 even if you bought the game before. And it's a turned based game with visual novel elements, not a game that 60 fps over 30 make any huge difference.

@Serpenterror Greetings!
Where did you get that nintendo helped Atlus financially to make SMTV?
I don t think that s true.
And releasing SMTV on Switch because they have a good relationship with nintendo? Really?
Come on...

I’m going to assume it will have a Switch 2 version eventually, so I’ll wait for it then

HI!

I’m just going to sidestep the bulk of what’s being discussed here and say that this is one of the very best JRPGs I’ve ever played. An absolutely beautiful procession of knife edge boss fights, mechanics and environments that are there to be manipulated in satisfying ways and the abscess battle theme completely rips.

I played Persona 5 after and it didn’t capture me anywhere near as much.

One of Switch’s lesser sung belters for sure

I'm late to the party, but if they don't release this as DLC for the original release, I'll be pretty disappointed.

I have SMTV as a physical cart and I barely have 6 hours under my belt, I just didn't expect to be "left behind" so quickly. Same goes for Persona 3, I have the portable version still to beat but there's also another version of the same game that obviously looks much better.

They're "remastering" these games way too quickly these days ... I can't keep up.

This is why I'm never buying an Atlus game on release day. I'm going to wait for the enhance version. I'm sick of this happening all the time with Atlus. I got to pay full price for a few extra hours of content really upsets me. When persona 6 come mes out I'm just waiting for p6 royal/golden or whatever there going to call it.