PikminMonster wrote:

The reason people call Wii bad is because they think it's for babies, which angers me a lot, seeing as there's plenty of stuff for the hardcore crowd to enjoy on Wii (Resi 4, Mega Man 9 & 10, Madworld, HOTD:Overkill). What we need is a HARDCORE game that EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT Mega Man 9 & 10 were download games. Resi 4 wasn't an exclusive. Madworld and HOTD barely sold anything. We need a popular, console exclusive, hardcore game on Wii.

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Mickeymac wrote:

Advertisements, word of mouth, mostly lots of frequent headline news on gamesites, doing something absolutely outrageous so it hits headline news on non-gaming media.

Mickeymac wrote:

Different maps, different feel, lots of balancing tweaks (which is extremely important in competitive games). My brother could tell you more, he's played them all and hates all but Modern Warfare 3 by now.

Wheels2050 wrote:

The Wii does have good games, that's undeniable.

However, I think that there are few AMAZING games on it - that's the problem. The 360 and PS3 (from what I hear) each have their fair share of absolutely brilliant games, as well as many other excellent games covering a variety of genres.

In contrast, the Wii has a small number of standout games, and then a whole bunch of very good or excellent games that don't quite make it 'classic' status. There's nothing wrong with that, but in this day and age of "anything that doesn't get 90+ on Metacritic is bad", the Wii doesn't stack up that well to the other consoles when using that as a judge of quality.

Also, as Mickeymac said, you look at the "Top X" games for Wii and it's always the same few. That also gives the impression of few quality games. To even really hear about the others, you'll need to go looking.

Electricmastr0 wrote:

It's funny how some FPS fans tend to insult Nintendo and when you ask them something like, "How is Black Ops 1 different from Black Ops 2?", that's when they get all defensive.

Mickeymac wrote:

Electricmastr0 wrote:

It's funny how some FPS fans tend to insult Nintendo and when you ask them something like, "How is Black Ops 1 different from Black Ops 2?", that's when they get all defensive.

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Bad example. Black Ops 2 is obviously different from the first one. Different setting, different weapons, look, plot, etc. A better example would;ve been Modern Warfare 2 to Modern Warfare 3, which I have yet to see much of a difference between. Better maps and a few rebalanced Perks, yet somehow my bro swears that Modern Warfare 2 sucks in comparison to 3. :/

kkslider5552000 wrote:

PikminMonster wrote:

The reason people call Wii bad is because they think it's for babies, which angers me a lot, seeing as there's plenty of stuff for the hardcore crowd to enjoy on Wii (Resi 4, Mega Man 9 & 10, Madworld, HOTD:Overkill). What we need is a HARDCORE game that EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT Mega Man 9 & 10 were download games. Resi 4 wasn't an exclusive. Madworld and HOTD barely sold anything. We need a popular, console exclusive, hardcore game on Wii.

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I can confirm that a lot of hardcore gamers knew about it but ignored it and then complained about the lack of mature games on Wii anyway.

Wheels2050 wrote:

The Wii does have good games, that's undeniable.

However, I think that there are few AMAZING games on it - that's the problem. The 360 and PS3 (from what I hear) each have their fair share of absolutely brilliant games, as well as many other excellent games covering a variety of genres.

In contrast, the Wii has a small number of standout games, and then a whole bunch of very good or excellent games that don't quite make it 'classic' status. There's nothing wrong with that, but in this day and age of "anything that doesn't get 90+ on Metacritic is bad", the Wii doesn't stack up that well to the other consoles when using that as a judge of quality.

Also, as Mickeymac said, you look at the "Top X" games for Wii and it's always the same few. That also gives the impression of few quality games. To even really hear about the others, you'll need to go looking.

WaveBoy wrote:

kkslider5552000 wrote:

PikminMonster wrote:

The reason people call Wii bad is because they think it's for babies, which angers me a lot, seeing as there's plenty of stuff for the hardcore crowd to enjoy on Wii (Resi 4, Mega Man 9 & 10, Madworld, HOTD:Overkill). What we need is a HARDCORE game that EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT Mega Man 9 & 10 were download games. Resi 4 wasn't an exclusive. Madworld and HOTD barely sold anything. We need a popular, console exclusive, hardcore game on Wii.

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I can confirm that a lot of hardcore gamers knew about it but ignored it and then complained about the lack of mature games on Wii anyway.

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So why are both HOTD: Overkill and RE4 considered hardcore? because there's blood and zombies in them? lol Where's the mention of Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2, Zelda Skyward Sword,Wario Land Shake it, Zack & Wiki, Paper Mario, SSB Brawl, NSMBWii, Kirby's Epic Yarn, DKCR, A boy & his Bob, Klonoa ect ect? These are all technicaly brilliant games, but they're not considered 'hardcore' to many gamers because they aren't dark, there aren't blazing with guns, no goopy blood and guts to be seen, ect ect My perception on 'hardcore' is a lot different than what kids think of it as today.

Anyways, the people complaining that the wii is for Babies 'are' babies. I always thought stuff like Call of Duty and Gears of War were for babies while Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Mega Man and the like were for the Golden Age gamers of the past who experienced it all from the beginning. Brilliant level design and platforming that's simply put unmatched. II hate to use the word 'hardcore' because like Wariowoods pointed out in another thread/article Nintendo is a TOY company, videogames are toys plain and simple and the word 'hardcore' sounds like crap being spewed out buy some 'trying to be macho' 10 year old.

Mario, Zelda, Metroid and many other nintendo franchises are legandary, they started it all basically, so to call these franchises not hardcore makes these certain people look like uninformed clueless kiddies. It seems like most of the NES/SNES gamers appreciate the Wii much more than the N64/GCN/PS2/XBOX era gamers. The VC obviously plays a large role as well, and of course the RetroRebIrth.

I've found too many good games on the Wii to count, can't say the same for the N64(especially) and GCN.

WaveBoy wrote:

kkslider5552000 wrote:

PikminMonster wrote:

The reason people call Wii bad is because they think it's for babies, which angers me a lot, seeing as there's plenty of stuff for the hardcore crowd to enjoy on Wii (Resi 4, Mega Man 9 & 10, Madworld, HOTD:Overkill). What we need is a HARDCORE game that EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT Mega Man 9 & 10 were download games. Resi 4 wasn't an exclusive. Madworld and HOTD barely sold anything. We need a popular, console exclusive, hardcore game on Wii.

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I can confirm that a lot of hardcore gamers knew about it but ignored it and then complained about the lack of mature games on Wii anyway.

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So why are both HOTD: Overkill and RE4 considered hardcore? because there's blood and zombies in them? lol Where's the mention of Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2, Zelda Skyward Sword,Wario Land Shake it, Zack & Wiki, Paper Mario, SSB Brawl, NSMBWii, Kirby's Epic Yarn, DKCR, A boy & his Bob, Klonoa ect ect? These are all technicaly brilliant games, but they're not considered 'hardcore' to many gamers because they aren't dark, there aren't blazing with guns, no goopy blood and guts to be seen, ect ect My perception on 'hardcore' is a lot different than what kids think of it as today.

Nick-Clegg wrote:

2010 was the year of the Wii.

EIectricmastro wrote:

Nick-Clegg wrote:

2010 was the year of the Wii.

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Who says it was ONLY 2010?