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zezhyrule

61. Posted:

Bleh, I don't want innovative control. I want innovative gameplay/art style/music. I'll gladly take all of that with mah good old dualshock controls.

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WaveWarlock

62. Posted:

zezhyrule wrote:

Bleh, I don't want innovative control. I want innovative gameplay/art style/music. I'll gladly take all of that with mah good old dualshock controls.

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See i'm the exact opposite, it's why i got tired of modern gaming in general during last generation, because i sawpast what 'could' be done with the dual shock controller and the wii did it. Funny thing is, i'm absolutely fine being stagnant in the 8-16 bit era as far as that type of gaming goes(Then again, Wario Land shake it completely revolutionised the sidescroller genre with it's brillaint and incredibly fun use of tilt controls), i love the retro, but for modern dual analog and Keyboard & mouse based games do not fly with me anymore whatsoever. different strokes, but they just bore me and can't get into either control scheme for the most part.

I had a hard time getting into RE: Revelations because i was forced to use analog aiming....I'm not even sure i enjoyed it more than RE5, one thing is for sure the 3D effect made it a lot more enjoyable than it actually was. :p And those Gyro controls while 'neat' i found didn't work that well, plus it mucked up the 3d effect.

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63. Posted:

DudeSean wrote:

Yeah. Microsoft's in it for the money, sony's in it for the spite and nintendo's in it for the love.

They all make games for the money. Sony's just not very good at it.

zezhyrule wrote:

Bleh, I don't want innovative control. I want innovative gameplay/art style/music. I'll gladly take all of that with mah good old dualshock controls.

Well, you hang in there. Maybe someday Sony will finally deliver.

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64. Posted:

LollipopChoSaw wrote:

I don't remember anything having a touch screen when I was a kid. And I definitely don't remember having a controller with a touch screen on it. Young people are so jaded these days...

The first touch screen was invented in 1965. The first home computer with a touch screen was 1983.

You must be really old if this technology didn't exist when you were a child.

I didn't say the technology didn't exist. But rather that I didn't have anything that used it.

LollipopChoSaw wrote:

The only company in it for the sole purpose of money is microsoft

lol. I'm sure Miyamoto's wife and children would love to know he never really cared about feeding them or having a house.

He could've done ANY job to shelter and feed his family. He chose to make video games.

LollipopChoSaw wrote:

Yeah. Microsoft's in it for the money, sony's in it for the spite and nintendo's in it for the love.

I take that previous comment back. There's no way you can possibly be old enough not to still be a child.

Ha. You disagree with me so you insult me. Surely that proves you're much more mature than I.

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DudeSean wrote:

Yeah. Microsoft's in it for the money, sony's in it for the spite and nintendo's in it for the love.

They all make games for the money. Sony's just not very good at it.

I know they all make games for money. They're businesses and require money to continue operations. What I believe differentiates the three is their initial motive to make consoles and games.

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WaveWarlock

65. Posted:

Gamesake wrote:

DudeSean wrote:

Yeah. Microsoft's in it for the money, sony's in it for the spite and nintendo's in it for the love.

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They all make games for the money. Sony's just not very good at it.

zezhyrule wrote:

Bleh, I don't want innovative control. I want innovative gameplay/art style/music. I'll gladly take all of that with mah good old dualshock controls.

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Well, you hang in there. Maybe someday Sony will finally deliver.

You also should of mentioned that getting innovative with dual analog in this day and age is over. Nothing more can be done. :p

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WaveWarlock

66. Posted:

DudeSean wrote:

LollipopChoSaw wrote:

I don't remember anything having a touch screen when I was a kid. And I definitely don't remember having a controller with a touch screen on it. Young people are so jaded these days...

The first touch screen was invented in 1965. The first home computer with a touch screen was 1983.

You must be really old if this technology didn't exist when you were a child.

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I didn't say the technology didn't exist. But rather that I didn't have anything that used it.

LollipopChoSaw wrote:

The only company in it for the sole purpose of money is microsoft

lol. I'm sure Miyamoto's wife and children would love to know he never really cared about feeding them or having a house.

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He could've done ANY job to shelter and feed his family. He chose to make video games.

LollipopChoSaw wrote:

Yeah. Microsoft's in it for the money, sony's in it for the spite and nintendo's in it for the love.

I take that previous comment back. There's no way you can possibly be old enough not to still be a child.

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Ha. You disagree with me so you insult me. Surely that proves you're much more mature than I.

Better stop now, otherwise a a massive sea of never ending argueing will rear it's head no matter how right you are. :p

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DudeSean

67. Posted:

Eh. I don't mind playing along.

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zezhyrule

68. Posted:

WaveBoy wrote:

You also should of mentioned that getting innovative with dual analog in this day and age is over. Nothing more can be done. :p

Yeah that would've made sense. Especially when I specified that I don't care about innovative control.

Unless it's mind control. I might go with that.

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Bankai

69. Posted:

But rather that I didn't have anything that used it.

So until you personally use it technology can't be impressive?

Moomoo is right. The technology going into the Wii U is anything but impressive. We all just need to hope that Nintendo and third parties figure out how to do interesting things with it.

He could've done ANY job to shelter and feed his family. He wanted to make video games.

I could have gone and become a garbage collector to feed my family. I became a journalist because 1) I like journalism but 2) I wanted an interesting job. That pays money.

People want to do work they like, but no one works for free. Miyamoto would not be a game developer if Nintendo wasn't going to pay him a salary.

Ha. You disagree with me so you insult me. Surely that proves you're much more mature than I.

But I'm right, aren't I? You're a teenager, or at most, very early 20's. I'm not sure how calling you "young" can be insulting, but then again, you are young.

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Bankai

70. Posted:

Time for some reality:

I know they all make games for money. They're businesses and require money to continue operations. What I believe differentiates the three is their initial motive to make consoles and games.

"This gaming thing is a good business opportunity."

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WaveWarlock

71. Posted:

zezhyrule wrote:

WaveBoy wrote:

You also should of mentioned that getting innovative with dual analog in this day and age is over. Nothing more can be done. :p

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Yeah that would've made sense. Especially when I specified that I don't care about innovative control.

Unless it's mind control. I might go with that.

ya, i kind of blazed through your comment. And mind control, give me some bloody head tracking baby. :p

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DudeSean

72. Posted:

Wow. You really do love to argue, huh?

LollipopChoSaw wrote:

But rather that I didn't have anything that used it.

So until you personally use it technology can't be impressive?

Moomoo is right. The technology going into the Wii U is anything but impressive. We all just need to hope that Nintendo and third parties figure out how to do interesting things with it.

How can I be impressed by something I haven't used?
Just because you're not impressed doesn't mean that there aren't other people who are. Nintendo and third parties have already figured out interesting things to do with it. If you're honestly not impressed then you seriously are jaded.

LollipopChoSaw wrote:

He could've done ANY job to shelter and feed his family. He wanted to make video games.

I could have gone and become a garbage collector to feed my family. I became a journalist because 1) I like journalism but 2) I wanted an interesting job. That pays money.

People want to do work they like, but no one works for free. Miyamoto would not be a game developer if Nintendo wasn't going to pay him a salary.

Seriously? That's your argument? He could still make games as a hobby in his free time but have a real job that he does also. But, why only do it as a hobby would he could be doing it as a career?

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Ha. You disagree with me so you insult me. Surely that proves you're much more mature than I.

But I'm right, aren't I? You're a teenager, or at most, very early 20's. I'm not sure how calling you "young" can be insulting, but then again, you are young.

No. You're not right.
And you called me a child, not young, just to clarify.

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Odnetnin

73. Posted:

@LollipopChoSaw I kind of wish you would have responded to Waveboy's earlier argument because I wanted to read/understand it, but now I can't. :'(

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kyuubikid213

74. Posted:

Where's the popcorn when you need it most?

In all seriousness, you guys need to chill before theblackdragon "Batman-swoops" down upon us.

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75. Posted:

Yeah guys, ignore him, you guys should try what I do and not respond when you know your right :)

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76. Posted:

DudeSean wrote:

Wow. You really do love to argue, huh?

LollipopChoSaw wrote:

But rather that I didn't have anything that used it.

So until you personally use it technology can't be impressive?

Moomoo is right. The technology going into the Wii U is anything but impressive. We all just need to hope that Nintendo and third parties figure out how to do interesting things with it.

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How can I be impressed by something I haven't used?
Just because you're not impressed doesn't mean that there aren't other people who are. Nintendo and third parties have already figured out interesting things to do with it. If you're honestly not impressed then you seriously are jaded.

LollipopChoSaw wrote:

He could've done ANY job to shelter and feed his family. He wanted to make video games.

I could have gone and become a garbage collector to feed my family. I became a journalist because 1) I like journalism but 2) I wanted an interesting job. That pays money.

People want to do work they like, but no one works for free. Miyamoto would not be a game developer if Nintendo wasn't going to pay him a salary.

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Seriously? That's your argument? He could still make games as a hobby in his free time but have a real job that he does also. But, why only do it as a hobby would he could be doing it as a career?

LollipopChoSaw wrote:

Ha. You disagree with me so you insult me. Surely that proves you're much more mature than I.

But I'm right, aren't I? You're a teenager, or at most, very early 20's. I'm not sure how calling you "young" can be insulting, but then again, you are young.

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No. You're not right.
And you called me a child, not young, just to clarify.

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Both you and LollipopChowsaw are looking at the wrong perspectives here.
Lollipop called you a child, which has a negative annotation.
Lollipop, and me as well, I guess, were talking about the WiiU purely as a piece of tech without looking at the games on it. If I bought game devices solely because of the specs, there's no way I'd buy a 3DS when the Iphone 4 is superior spec-wise. Yet I own a 3DS and don't own an Iphone 4.
Also, why the heck would Miyamoto make games for fun and have a different job when he could make waaaaaay more money making games, regardless of whether he enjoys it or not?
You're "Nintendo went in for fun, Sony for spite, Microsoft for money" makes sense to me. Yeah, they all mainly did it for the money, but other reasons were certainly present.
Stop bickering. I find you two to make the most sophisticated statements in these forums, but both of you are acting like children.

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77. Posted:

kyuubikid213 wrote:

Where's the popcorn when you need it most?

In all seriousness, you guys need to chill before theblackdragon "Batman-swoops" down upon us.

The only thing that's old about Waltz/AlexSays (where is the latter, btw?) vs. random NLifers is you always coming in to tell everyone to stop arguing before they get banned. In all seriousness.

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WaveWarlock

78. Posted:

And the 1000nth episode of the "I'm right you're wrong" game comes to an end.

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79. Posted:

moomoo wrote:

I find you two to make the most sophisticated statements in these forums, but both of you are acting like children.

Sorry guys, but I second this comment :|

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80. Posted:

Dark_Oddy_Rises wrote:

kyuubikid213 wrote:

Where's the popcorn when you need it most?

In all seriousness, you guys need to chill before theblackdragon "Batman-swoops" down upon us.

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The only thing that's old about Waltz/AlexSays (where is the latter, btw?) vs. random NLifers is you always coming in to tell everyone to stop arguing before they get banned. In all seriousness.

If they were banned I'd just stop coming to this website. They make it interesting :).
They do know when to stop, though. They're not like a certain turtle who just don't know when to quit.

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