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Topic: Who won the "next-gen" launch? (According to Jim Sterling)

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Warruz wrote:

@SkywardLink98 Im not defending the Wii U launch either, but lets not say Xbox one or PS4 has system sellers at launch either.

I'd consider Forza and KI to be system sellers for xbox one.

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shingi_70 wrote:

Warruz wrote:

@SkywardLink98 Im not defending the Wii U launch either, but lets not say Xbox one or PS4 has system sellers at launch either.

I'd consider Forza and KI to be system sellers for xbox one.

Their scores say otherwise which is my point, they are system sellers to YOU much in the same way Monster Hunter is a system seller for me. They lack that "Must have game" that applies to the large majority of consumers.

Forza- http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/forza-motorsport-5
Killer Instinct - http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/forza-motorsport-5
Killzone- http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/killzone-shadow-...
Knack - http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/knack

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The Wii U should fail for trying to push hardware innovation further and offering new gameplay experiences, and the Sony Sophisticated Stale station 4 and BroBoxWarMachineOne should succeed....They should succeed for being down right lazy, and offering the same unexciting rehashed gobbly goop we've all seen before but with more sparkle(Not of the Edward cullen variety) and higher resolutions and all of that other nerdy super ficial pixel density jazz that these raging teener wieners get hopped up & argue over these days because as we all know these miniscule things make videogames much more fun right? ;) I'm not taking two more boring trips down to DejavuVille this time. Can't fool this frog.

Instead, I'll be sitting with Miss Piggy at the pond playing Pikmine 3 and dreaming for a Frogger U. :*

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Warruz wrote:

@SkywardLink98 Im not defending the Wii U launch either, but lets not say Xbox one or PS4 has system sellers at launch either.

The PS4 sold 1 million units in 24hrs. I don't think Sony are too concerned that you don't think any of their launch games are "system sellers".

Without quality software, those sales numbers will plummet after all the fans buy one ;)

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The Wii U should fail for trying to push hardware innovation further and offering new gameplay experiences, and the Sony Sophisticated Stale station 4 and BroBoxWarMachineOne should succeed....They should succeed for being down right lazy, and offering the same unexciting rehashed gobbly goop we've all seen before but with more sparkle(Not of the Edward cullen variety) and higher resolutions and all of that other nerdy super ficial jazz that these raging teener wieners get hopped up over these days, because they're just awesome. ;) I'm not taking two more boring trips down to DejavuVille this time. Can't fool this frog.

Instead, I'll be sitting with Miss Piggy at the pond playing Pikmine 3 and dreaming for a Frogger U. :*

See I;m a bit confused you say that when the Wii U from a games perspective literally has only two new experiences with everything else being an extension of what's came before.

On topic I think the xbox one and PS4 launches get more leeway since there won't be a gap in software between launch and the launch window. Between that and the PS4/XBone launches having more variety in games.

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FutureAlphaMale wrote:

Warruz wrote:

@SkywardLink98 Im not defending the Wii U launch either, but lets not say Xbox one or PS4 has system sellers at launch either.

The PS4 sold 1 million units in 24hrs. I don't think Sony are too concerned that you don't think any of their launch games are "system sellers".

Without quality software, those sales numbers will plummet after all the fans buy one ;)

But those numbers for both systems alone and accidental evidence of working at a big box retailer suggests that more than the fans are buying the, realistically if it were only the fans buying the systems the sales would be in line with the Wii U Launch sales like everyone predicted. I know everyone wanted a big drop off and its still possible but highly unlikely just going by the software releases for the Bone/PS4.

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@shingi_70: Variety?

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shingi_70 wrote:

CountWavula wrote:

The Wii U should fail for trying to push hardware innovation further and offering new gameplay experiences, and the Sony Sophisticated Stale station 4 and BroBoxWarMachineOne should succeed....They should succeed for being down right lazy, and offering the same unexciting rehashed gobbly goop we've all seen before but with more sparkle(Not of the Edward cullen variety) and higher resolutions and all of that other nerdy super ficial jazz that these raging teener wieners get hopped up over these days, because they're just awesome. ;) I'm not taking two more boring trips down to DejavuVille this time. Can't fool this frog.

Instead, I'll be sitting with Miss Piggy at the pond playing Pikmine 3 and dreaming for a Frogger U. :*

See I;m a bit confused you say that when the Wii U from a games perspective literally has only two new experiences with everything else being an extension of what's came before..

ZombiU, Nintendo Land, Wii Fit U, Wii Party U and LOZ: WW HD are a few decent examples of putting the gamepad to good use and offering experiences that couldn't have been done on the Wii or these silly current gen twins. but there doesn't seem to be too many game utilizing the Game pad in creative ways. The extensions? 3DWOrld being a sequel to 3DLand, same deal with Pikmin 3, DKC Tropical Freeze & NSMB.U which fail to make any decent use of the gamepad in general. :P Hopefully mario kart 8 will do something really neat with the 2nd screen instead of playing it safe and use it as a rear view window(that would still be kind of neat though. :P )

I wish capcom and Konami would get it together and at least Support the Wii U the same way the did for the Wii. Zack & Wiki, Elebits, The RE Chronicles games, Mega Man 9 & 10, Silent Hill: SS, RE:4 Wii Edition, Contra ReBirth, Castlevania ReBirth ect ect.

As is, the Wii U truly does feel like a BroBox 360 when you strip away the nintendo exclusives, BUT with an innovative 'next gen' controller.
If you're getting a Wii U, it definitely won't be for 3rd party support since it doesn't even really exist. Multi console releases(Rayman, RE: Revelations U, Black plops: ghosts 'something' and last gen ports(Tekken Tag Tournament 2 and whatever else) don't really count in my eyes. When i think TRUE Wii U 3rd party support, i think The Wonderful 101 Games that can not be experienced on any other console.

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at this exact moment unless you're a FPS fan you're better off getting a 3DS if you want variety ;) or a previous gen console(they even have FPSs :p )
games take time to be made and can't be released before the console(not counting ports to consoles that are alerady out) that's why console launches are always a mess....

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@CountWavula

That's pretty much my beef with the gamepad as whole in that it seems like Nintendo isn't sure what to do with it. When I look how the Wiimote was used in such cool ways, and than look at the Gamepad I feel a bit sad. Even with the games you mentioned I feel only two of them do something really new and nothing that was obvious.

I do agree that Capcom and Konami haven't been on their A game as of late. It seems that both have hit on hard times with Capcom needing to Partner with the big three to get games done, and Konami only interested in PES, Metal Gear, and 3D castlevaina. In that case they still ignore the Wii U despite this being a good chance to build up a PES fanbase on Nintendo consoles seeing as there's no way in hell that PES will ever touch fifa on the other two consoles.

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31. Posted:

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Monster Hunter is a system seller for me.

Monster Hunter would be a system seller for me, were it not on the 3DS.

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32. Posted:

LOL "According to Jim" Sterling LMAO

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33. Posted:

Wii Sports had a Metascore of 76, yet few question its power as a system seller, I think.

There are no objective "must-buys" or "must-haves", only "must-try".

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34. Posted:

mamp wrote:

LOL "According to Jim" Sterling LMAO

How I could miss that?

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35. Posted:

SkywardLink98 wrote:

Warruz wrote:

Monster Hunter is a system seller for me.

Monster Hunter would be a system seller for me, were it not on the 3DS.

I kinda wished MH4 was originally a Wii U title...Wii U sales would be skyrocketing at this point, lol

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Yukari_Sendo wrote:

SkywardLink98 wrote:

Warruz wrote:

Monster Hunter is a system seller for me.

Monster Hunter would be a system seller for me, were it not on the 3DS.

I kinda wished MH4 was originally a Wii U title...Wii U sales would be skyrocketing at this point, lol

Problem is, it would be in Japan only. Monster Hunter is still too niche in the west to be a system seller over here. And maybe I'm wrong, but don't the console Monster Hunter games sell less than the handheld ones? I thought Tri sold alot less units than the PSP MH games.

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I can't remember, lol...but Wii U sales would still be going up a lot.

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38. Posted:

Yukari_Sendo wrote:

I can't remember, lol...but Wii U sales would still be going up a lot.

Not really. The whole appeal of Monster Hunter is its portability.

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39. Posted:

shingi_70 wrote:

Yukari_Sendo wrote:

I can't remember, lol...but Wii U sales would still be going up a lot.

Not really. The whole appeal of Monster Hunter is its portability.

That's an opinion. It's not like a home console version can't exist along side a portable. I'm guessing you must think Phantasy Star Online is a portable game, too...

I would actually prefer MH on a home console, but I'd rather have a portable version AND a home console version. Meh.

EDIT: I'm guessing you think that, because it became popular on PSP before becoming even more popular on 3DS?

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40. Posted:

shingi_70 wrote:

Yukari_Sendo wrote:

I can't remember, lol...but Wii U sales would still be going up a lot.

Not really. The whole appeal of Monster Hunter is its portability.

Here I thought the whole appeal was the hundreds of hours of gameplay, great customization, large open world, extensive crafting, challenging and rewarding bosses, and multiplayer.

Guess I'm out of touch.

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