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ocelot20

21. Posted:

I liked Resident Evil 5 on the PS3. Using it with the Move controller was amazing. So I would not mined if they released it on the Nintendo Wii U store as a cheap download tile. I would not pay £40/$60 for it as a retail title. Resident Evil 6 we should all pretend does not exist because its garbage.

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there won't be motion controls for re6*. there was no move support for the ps3 version and that doesn't bode well for pointer controls on wii u. Mikami said that if they bring it to wii u he wants to use the gamepad uniquely and not just tack on touchscreen controls, which makes it even less likely that the game will allow an alternate remote scheme.

as far as re6 sucking is concerned, the reviews seem extremely consistent whether the score is high or low. every reviewer complains that the game is trying hard to be anything other than a resident evil game, aping every popular shooter from gears of war to call of duty and doing a mediocre job of it. capcom apparently gutted almost all of the horror and puzzle elements and for the sake of getting more action fans on board, so it pretty much boils down to running through room after room shooting things until the next boss fight... over and over again... and that's it.

i kind of hope the game doesn't sell well so that capcom learns their lesson that going further in the action direction will result in less sales, not more. i still want to try it and see how it plays for myself but after re5 sold more than any other game in the series i have no doubt that the reviews are right about capcom killing the horror elements off completely.

  • until the hyper platinum gold edition is released

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Why would anyone want a dual port of two mediocre games?

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Chrono_Cross wrote:

Why would anyone want a dual port of two mediocre games?

It would be better than paying for both separately?

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25. Posted:

You're missing my point.

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skywake

26. Posted:

Capcom should just forget those games happened and start on something new. I'd be more interested in seeing yet another port of Street Fighter 4 on the Wii U at full retail price than RE 5/6 in a value pack at a bargain price.

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Lan

27. Posted:

I seriously couldn't play RE5 due to the controls. RE4 Wii Edition nailed the shooting so perfectly. It felt so good, I even aced the minigames first try.

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I'm saying I don't want to play every 90+ game reviewed or give up on a game from a series I like because it got a couple of below average scores. So yeah, my tastes vary from reviewers.

There is nothing wrong with not agreeing with a reviewers opinion, I have enjoyed many games that are 'bad,' but if you are going to use a reviewers opinion to validate your opinion on a games quality, you are not in a place to dismiss a reviewers opinion on a games quality when it doesn't go with your opinion.

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Just give me a new Mercenaries game on WiiU that can be played with 4 people online with 100 old and new stages + every enemy from the entire series + every character + the ability to play as Nemmy. Capcom this is what we really want ;)

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30. Posted:

Void wrote:

Ryno wrote:

I'm saying I don't want to play every 90+ game reviewed or give up on a game from a series I like because it got a couple of below average scores. So yeah, my tastes vary from reviewers.

There is nothing wrong with not agreeing with a reviewers opinion, I have enjoyed many games that are 'bad,' but if you are going to use a reviewers opinion to validate your opinion on a games quality, you are not in a place to dismiss a reviewers opinion on a games quality when it doesn't go with your opinion.

What review did I dismiss? I will read both positive and negative reviews on games. Thanks for posting Gamespots review by the way. Anyway, you are the one that said that "a lot" of reviews stated that RE5 & RE6 stunk and therefore there is no need for Capcom to allow Wii U owners the opportunity to play these games.

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31. Posted:

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Why would anyone want a dual port of two mediocre games?

Since when was RE5 mediocre?(I guess the experience could of been if you had the PS3 version and just came back from playing RE4: Wii edition with those superior pointer controls...Oh wait, i was one of the unfortunate, but i managed to adjust...I dont know how, but i did it...Which is suprising since i can't stand dual analog controls anymore.. :P) That aside, i had a pretty solid time with RE5 when that rat Sheva wasn't taking my shots.lol Wasn't exactly great by anymeans but i think it desserves a solid 8, which seems to be the case with most of the popular interwebZ Reviewers anyways. I definitly
wouldn't mind going through it again, this time with pointer controls, and by getting 'The graphically superior XBOX version' which i'm assuming the Wii U version will look like with proper clear/crisp graphics and normal contrast ect' and of course using Pointer controls, all in amazing 720p, Widescreen and on a 50" HDTV baby. B-)

As for RE6, mediocre or not i'm a big Resident Evil fan, have been since the release of the original on the PSX, hell i even had the Novels, comic book series and action figures back in my tweeny years. So ya, it's tradition, i've got to play it no matter how piss poor the scores my sadly be. With RE6, mixed reactions are clearly in full force, but i don't care. I'll go in with an open mind thank you very much, besides Leon's scenario actually looks pretty damn interesting. It harkens back to the look and feel of RE1-3 which was completely abscent in RE4 & RE5 especially. Revelations at least retained some of that atmosphere(Especially during the end bit in Queen Dido. Fantastic stuff...Capcom was such a tease! :o )

I think another big change, at least for me is the ability to finally play it on a 50" HDTV. 720HD, Progressives can and Widescreen, HDMI(unless it introduces more lag over component. sigh*) will make an enormous difference this time around. I'd assume that the Wii U version, whenever it is released will be identicle to the XBOX 360 version graphically. Multiconsole PS3 ports for the most part end up with inferior soft graphics....RE5 and Ghosbusters(looks nasty/Blurry on the PS3 in comparison to the XBOX version) are just two examples of the many. It might not be the same case with RE6 though, but it's possible. eek!

Dual release or not, I'm all for a Wii U version of both games. especially(Insert captain freakin' obvious) RE6 obviously, because i wont be getting it on the PS3. goolay' :p

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32. Posted:

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It can't be any worse than Code Veronica and Zero....Can it? :p

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa..... what? What's wrong with Zero? Zero is just as good as the remake of the first one. I love my gamecube resident evil games.

I didn't like 5. I didn't play much of it, but I just didn't like how it became like every other third person shooter on the market. It's no longer a unique, horror-survival game. It's a run of the mill run 'n' gun game. Very sad. RE4 I think worked very well. It kept the game mostly the same as the old RE games, but gave you a new viewpoint and fixed the horrible aiming system. What I really want is the RE4 engine in a game more like RE1/0. I like Revelations.

I wouldn't get my hopes up for RE5 or 6, although it's entirely possible they'll port it at some time. What I do hope is that Capcom makes a Resident Evil game exclusively for the Wii U, just like they did for the 3DS.

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33. Posted:

Zero and Code Veronica are actually two of my favorite RE games :|

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34. Posted:

DudeSean wrote:

WaveBoy wrote:

It can't be any worse than Code Veronica and Zero....Can it? :p

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa..... what? What's wrong with Zero? Zero is just as good as the remake of the first one. I love my gamecube resident evil games.

I didn't like 5. I didn't play much of it, but I just didn't like how it became like every other third person shooter on the market. It's no longer a unique, horror-survival game. It's a run of the mill run 'n' gun game. Very sad. RE4 I think worked very well. It kept the game mostly the same as the old RE games, but gave you a new viewpoint and fixed the horrible aiming system. What I really want is the RE4 engine in a game more like RE1/0. I like Revelations.

I wouldn't get my hopes up for RE5 or 6, although it's entirely possible they'll port it at some time. What I do hope is that Capcom makes a Resident Evil game exclusively for the Wii U, just like they did for the 3DS.

I'm suprised that you're suprised somebody critisized Zero as being one of the weakest entries in the franchise. the RE community/fans/whatever typically nail it as the worst in the traditional series. Even the reviews had it nailed in the 7's which is an all time low for traditional RE...I personally don't think it's the worst, that would go to Code Veronica....I think part of the big reason i dislike that one so much is because of capcoms decision to go with 3D polygon environments which haven't aged well whatsoever, which basically sucked the atmosphere and incredible realistic detail from those classic prerendered environments from the previous entries in the franchise. It had it's advantage however with the new dynamic camera system, but it just wasn't enough. Plus, for the first time RE lost that classic B-movie romero-esque feel and vibe, and basically drove Code Veronica into SCFi action territory, and i for one didn't like it.. It was a massive dissapointment and almost felt like a downgrade after finishing up the incredible RE3: Nemesis. Plus by that point, i was growing tired of the same RE formula and i had to force myself to finish CV. I enjoyed the first portion of the game, but it completely lost me during Chris's scenario especially. RE1-3 completely trump CV.

But yup, i do like Zero more than the remake in ways, but that's possibly beacuse the remake wasn't all that new to me considering i already played the original during it's PSX release. Anyways, Zero left me unsatisfyed. Sure, the character switching system was pretty neat, and the 'failed' Tyrant Experiment was a killer addition, the Leach Zombies were "OMFG Scary-INtense" Once their theme song plays you know some real Shniz' is going down. :p while the gorgeous graphics that were carried on from the remake were as gothic & rusty as ever. It's like some of the set pieces were inspired from a 1960's Hammer horror film. However, the story was a complete joke, actually scratch that....Marcus was the joke. I c'mon, his youthful transformation with the entire Castlevania-fantasy get up and opera singing felt completely out of place in the RE universe.

And what was up with that giant Centipede Boss? didn't exactly feel threatening. :p Then again, the decision to make those silly over grown frogs the final bio weapons that you encounter towards the final portion of the game was a bad move. Not because they're frogs, because they didn't do jack s*** :p I'd nail Zero with a 7.5, not bad by any means just one of the weaker entries in the franchise. again, different strokes, but it's not suprising considering ZERO is after all usually considered the weakest link. But whatever we've all got our favorites. Mine being 1, 3 and 2.

Revelations was a solid entry in the series, if you can look past those mindless shoot out episodes. lol

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35. Posted:

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I'm suprised that you're suprised somebody critisized Zero as being one of the weakest entries in the franchise. the RE community/fans/whatever typically nail it as the worst in the traditional series. Even the reviews had it nailed in the 7's which is an all time low for traditional RE...

What's that supposed to mean? And I don't even look at review scores. I know my opinion differs from the majority.

I missed out on 2 and 3. All the gamecube had was ports of the ps1 games. I was waiting for remakes, but they never came...

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I think everyone is still waiting for the 2 and 3 remakes :- /

At least RE DC was better at retelling 2's story than RE UC at 3's.... Seriously, I still can't believe they simply reused mismatched Outbreak scenarios and monsters for 3.

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DudeSean wrote:

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I'm suprised that you're suprised somebody critisized Zero as being one of the weakest entries in the franchise. the RE community/fans/whatever typically nail it as the worst in the traditional series. Even the reviews had it nailed in the 7's which is an all time low for traditional RE...

What's that supposed to mean? And I don't even look at review scores. I know my opinion differs from the majority.

I missed out on 2 and 3. All the gamecube had was ports of the ps1 games. I was waiting for remakes, but they never came...

You missed out on 2 and 3? Dude...Get on those pronto! You'll then realise how dissapointing Zero is in comparison to both of those. But at the same time, it would of been better had you experienced 2 and 3 during their release or at least before you jumped into the remake & Zero considering the large gap in graphical power... I'm also assuming you've never played the original back on the playstation that started it all? i found that one more enjoyable and miles more memorable than the remake. But keep in mind, when the original came out it was all sorts of groundbreaking By the time the remake hit the scene, the traditional RE formula was getting kind of stale, and the only thing that made the remake special was the amazing graphical presentation and the fact that it was a remake of the original.

just get 2 and 3 on the Gamecube and play them on your wii. They wont be getting remakes, at least
anytime soon! 2 is usually regarded the best of the franchise, but i think 3 beats it out. B-)

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You're right. I should get 2 and 3 for the gamecube. Even if 2 and 3 are better than Zero, that doesn't make Zero any less good as far as I'm concerned. Plus those graphics, man! I know I don't like it when people care so much about the graphics, but RE and RE0 on gamecube are fantastic looking games! In RE0, the characters actually put each foot on each step while walking on the stairs. I don't think I've seen any other game do that.

I have not played the ps1 version, no. I have played the pc version, which looked like a ps1 game, so I assume it is quite similar.

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39. Posted:

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There is nothing wrong with not agreeing with a reviewers opinion, I have enjoyed many games that are 'bad,' but if you are going to use a reviewers opinion to validate your opinion on a games quality, you are not in a place to dismiss a reviewers opinion on a games quality when it doesn't go with your opinion.

Reviews have to be weighed against your own excitement about the thing in question. You don't usually consider or even read reviews of things you are going to get into regardless of what the review says. If you're a massive fan of Resident Evil, AC/DC or Tarantino movies you're going to grabbing their latest stuffs regardless of what the reviews say. At the same time if you're on the fence or weren't really into that sort of content but saw a review singing it's praises you'd be right to reconsider and even change your tune. So it's perfectly reasonable for someone to throw out a review on the one hand while using a review of a different product as a validation of their opinion on it.

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Void wrote:

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I'm saying I don't want to play every 90+ game reviewed or give up on a game from a series I like because it got a couple of below average scores. So yeah, my tastes vary from reviewers.

There is nothing wrong with not agreeing with a reviewers opinion, I have enjoyed many games that are 'bad,' but if you are going to use a reviewers opinion to validate your opinion on a games quality, you are not in a place to dismiss a reviewers opinion on a games quality when it doesn't go with your opinion.

What review did I dismiss? I will read both positive and negative reviews on games. Thanks for posting Gamespots review by the way. Anyway, you are the one that said that "a lot" of reviews stated that RE5 & RE6 stunk and therefore there is no need for Capcom to allow Wii U owners the opportunity to play these games.

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"I don't want to play every 90+ game reviewed or give up on a game from a series I like because it got a couple of below average scores. So yeah, my tastes vary from reviewers."
You're free to have you're opinion, and I haven't played them so I wouldn't know, but it seemed to me you were stating that you weren't going to listen to the poor reviews from that, which arn't really less valid than yours, but I could easily be wrong, and you are welcome to clarify.
You are exaggerating what I said, I said that apperently they stunk, and that we probably won't be missing much, that was my opinion from seeing all the hate they got in just about every direction I looked, oh yeah and the top results on bing were mostly unfavorable reviews.
I will also give you the fact that I'm bad at wording.

@Skywake I don't care if someone is going to not care about reviews because they know they will like it, (Hooray for redundancy!) but if people are just going to grab a review just to prove their point that it's good, then just ignore another persons view when they bring up a review, I don't think they are being reasonable.
Unless that review is by Jim Sterling, that is a fair move then.

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