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johnvboy

Just to give you guys an idea of the software sold per console.

Nintendo DS 153.93 million consoles with 935.84 million pieces of software sold.

Sony PSP 76.3 million consoles with 330.2 million pieces of software sold.

You can see the ratio of software sold is higher on the Nintendo handheld,which points to the fact there were many people who bought a PSP and very few games.

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johnvboy

Also from looking at those figures and adding the Wii's totals Nintendo must have made a fortune from the last generation.

Nintendo Wii 100.04 million consoles with 872.73 million pieces of software sold.

In fact the WII has a better software to console ratio than the DS.

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Caryslan

johnvboy wrote:

With Atari releasing consoles like the Lynx and Jaguar,Nolan Busnell will be quite an authority on irrelevance

Nolan Bushnell had nothing to do with those consoles. In fact, he was not even with Atari during the glory days of the 2600.

This is for everyone who can't be bothered to do a little bit of research before you start attacking someone. Nolan Bushnell left Atari in 1978 after a major dispute with the executives of Warner Communications. After he left, he founded Chuck E Cheese's. He had nothing to do with the crash of 1983 and was not even involved in video games at the time of the crash.

Hopefully, this clears some things up

Caryslan

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johnvboy wrote:

In fact the WII has a better software to console ratio than the DS.

Handhelds tend to have a much lower tie ratio than home consoles so that's not an achievement in of itself. That said it's comparable to the PS3, albeit lower than the X360.

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Caryslan

johnvboy wrote:

Just to give you guys an idea of the software sold per console.

Nintendo DS 153.93 million consoles with 935.84 million pieces of software sold.

Sony PSP 76.3 million consoles with 330.2 million pieces of software sold.

You can see the ratio of software sold is higher on the Nintendo handheld,which points to the fact there were many people who bought a PSP and very few games.

You have a point, but Piracy was much worse on the PSP than it ever was on the DS. In fact, the PSP probably had the worst piracy rate out of any recent console. Its speaks volumes when people openly admitted they pirated PSP games and seemed to be proud of it.

This is a large reason why alot of PSP games never made it over here or if they did, they were only sold as digital downloads. People just pirated the hell out of the PSP, and it was a large reason why the PSP had so many issues getting support.

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Caryslan

johnvboy wrote:

To be fair I don't know why we are even listening to the guy,he states a handheld console is not a good idea,has he seen the sales for he 3DS/DS? they are mental.

In Japan the 3DS has already sold more consoles than the PS3 and is closing in on the Wii's lifetime total !

His point was not that there is not a place for handheld consoles, but more along the lines that the idea of a gaming only handheld console is becoming otudated. And if you think about it, he has a point. The GBA was the last handheld system that only played games. The DS, DSi, PSP, 3DS, and PS Vita`have all gone in the direction of allowing the user to do more than simply play games.

And that's his point, the days of handheld consoles that only play games has long passed. Look at the 3DS, it offer chat software, Netflix, a music player, and photo tools.

While he may be a little off, I agree with one thing. The next Nintendo will likely offer even more robust features outside of gaming since the market is headed in that direction. And that is something Nintendo will have to do with their future handhelds. Tabelts and Smartphones will not go away, and as long as they play games, they are still competition to Nintendo and Sony, regardless of what one thinks about the games they offer.

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johnvboy

Caryslan wrote:

johnvboy wrote:

With Atari releasing consoles like the Lynx and Jaguar,Nolan Busnell will be quite an authority on irrelevance

Nolan Bushnell had nothing to do with those consoles. In fact, he was not even with Atari during the glory days of the 2600.

This is for everyone who can't be bothered to do a little bit of research before you start attacking someone. Nolan Bushnell left Atari in 1978 after a major dispute with the executives of Warner Communications. After he left, he founded Chuck E Cheese's. He had nothing to do with the crash of 1983 and was not even involved in video games at the time of the crash.

Hopefully, this clears some things up

Yes he is far more irrelevant than I thought he was in the first place.

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kkslider5552000

Il-Fortissimo wrote:

I don't understand why Nintendo seems to intentionally have weaker consoles, from a technical perspective. Are they trying to "pace themselves" so they won't evolve too fast or something?

more expensive consoles cost more money and won't do anything but make Nintendo more redundant

also considering the amount of time it takes Nintendo's devs to learn how to make proper HD titles, going straight towards Ps4/XboxOne levels of graphics from Wii would be a nightmare

I say that because pointing out how the most powerful systems never are the most successful is too obvious an answer.

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Captain_Balko

Il-Fortissimo wrote:

I don't understand why Nintendo seems to intentionally have weaker consoles, from a technical perspective. Are they trying to "pace themselves" so they won't evolve too fast or something?

"stronger" consoles from a "technical perspective" cost more money. If the Wii U had better specs but was 600$, it'd be doing worse than it is now, I can tell you that much.

Captain_Balko

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Fancy games with fancy realistic graphics and trillions of polygons also cost much more to make for the developers.

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Captain_Balko

Morphtorok wrote:

Fancy games with fancy realistic graphics and trillions of polygons also cost much more to make for the developers.

I didn't even think about this! That's completely true.

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johnvboy

I think another factor is the fact graphics have reached a level on the Ps3/360 where differences are not as apparent as with previous generations.

The Ps4/Xbox one will both offer visuals above their previous machines but the jump will not be as big as with last generation,part of this is due to the fact that the Ps3/360 both had the benefit of the jump from standard definition to HD,for a example try switching between your Wii U and Wii menus on your Wii U,the difference even in something as basic as the Mii's is quite stark.

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