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Jaz007

gilvelez1 wrote:

@Jaz007
Um actually very originally since the original metroid predates just about everything else 80's???

The ideas already existed in movies and books before 1986.

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gilvelez1

OMG!! really? !?!
So now we're bringing books into it???
Unbelievable!! @jaz007

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Pesty

gilvelez1 wrote:

So the forum goes to poop during my absence lol
Ok lets begin with- @pesty : even I can't say that the ps n xbox don't have any games-- skyrim is to me one of the best games in the world. Gears of war.. god of war.. uncharted.. assasins.. metal gear..lbp..resident evil
@8BitSamurai : all "classics" in my book lol
@Sony_70: the reason sony will release 6 platformers before N is because N actually takes the time to make their games good!

The term platform is too vague.. when I hear platform I think 2D side scrolling - mario. Rayman.
And I think Ubisoft is today's Capcom back in its prime (80-90's)
Rayman is unbelievable
Halo is metroid prime
Assasins- metal gear - the whole third person genre is thanks to metal gear and resident evil

sorry maybe I should have made platform more clearer. I'm talking platform games as in Mario, Sonic, Rayman, Crash Bandicoot etc. old fashioned jump up and down on platforms collecting items. I wouldn't class gears and god of war as platform games.

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Jaz007

gilvelez1 wrote:

OMG!! really? !?!
So now we're bringing books into it???
Unbelievable!! @jaz007

You said Halo was unoriginal because of the basic ideas of the aliens, space, and suits. I'm saying those ideas existed before Metroid. If you think such basic things are important to being original, you have to take into account those basic story foundations already existed. Halo used the same basic space, aliens, and suit foundations that have existed for ages like Metroid did. Nintendo didn't invent the foundations for Halo. The gameplay is completely different too.

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HankLangley

Always rated E-T games, most of the time, cause i think there was ONE on GCN that was M.... can't remember. not saying they SHOULD have mre M games... but its a fact

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SCAR392 wrote:

As much as people like to throw around the word fanboy, some people just don't like PS games at all.

That doesn't make you a fanboy. Defending a company in all cases no matter what the issue, and trying to deny every time the company makes a mistake - despite your own judgement, does however. Sound familiar?

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I hope that was sarcasm

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Gansano wrote:

Always rated E-T games, most of the time, cause i think there was ONE on GCN that was M.... can't remember. not saying they SHOULD have mre M games... but its a fact

...wut?

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Gansano wrote:

Always rated E-T games, most of the time, cause i think there was ONE on GCN that was M.... can't remember. not saying they SHOULD have mre M games... but its a fact

Actually, Nintendo published 2 M rated games on Gamecube, with Eternal Darkness and Geist.
But yeah, Nintendo doesn't really focus on M-rated games all that much.

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Jaz007 wrote:

gilvelez1 wrote:

@Jaz007
Um actually very originally since the original metroid predates just about everything else 80's???

The ideas already existed in movies and books before 1986.

Also, if I could interject. Sakamoto has come out and stated that some concepts in Metroid was based on the movie Alien.

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uptownsoul

Nintendo's 8th gen problems are because of the Wii.  The Wii sold 130M units.  A lot of it came from their great price point.  But in order to reach that price they had to forgo 2 key things (possibly more) that are now coming back to trouble them.  That's HD game making & online infrastructure.

Part of what made the Wii's price point so attractive was not focusing in on, or pursuing a rich online experience.  Which meant they didn't have to invest in a hearty online infrastructure.  They also didn't invest in the HD experience.

Now they have to invest in these things, which are cheaper, but you can't put a price tag on the 7years of experience your competitors have on you.  More importantly, Xbox, PS, AND 3rd party pubs & devs all went through the ups & downs of online & HD gaming TOGETHER.  Some exceptions like pubs & devs making pc games & Microsoft being in the pc software business.  But none of that will help nintendo out.

So your getting wiiU owners with online connection problems.  Your getting Miyamoto(sp?) saying HD games are harder than they first thought.  All that's to be expected & should have happened in 2006.

Furthermore, it should be troublesome when Miyamoto(sp?) says they thought HD gaming was going to be easier because I wonder if they built their hardware based on how hard they thought HD games were to make.  I dunno.  Thoughts?

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@Jaz007 actually I over shot my number because I didnt want blow back on the particular number

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OptometristLime

Jaz007 wrote:

gilvelez1 wrote:

OMG!! really? !?!
So now we're bringing books into it???
Unbelievable!! @jaz007

You said Halo was unoriginal because of the basic ideas of the aliens, space, and suits. I'm saying those ideas existed before Metroid. If you think such basic things are important to being original, you have to take into account those basic story foundations already existed. Halo used the same basic space, aliens, and suit foundations that have existed for ages like Metroid did. Nintendo didn't invent the foundations for Halo. The gameplay is completely different too.

This is actually a very valid point; it makes sense to look back a ways in truly deciphering the origins of an idea. While tangential to the whole issue of what company launched which concept in particular, it establishes the whole argument as unimportant, really.

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SCRAPPER392

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It's not an opinion? What kind of BS post is that? Just because my opinion is not yours, does not make it any less valid.
WTF?

@Geonjaha
Ya it does sound familar, because Nintendo fanboy people argue with PS fanboy people all the time.
As you can see, I just discussed how my opinion is just as important as @Sony_70 . We're at the point of an argument where a Nintendo fans opinion doesn't mean s*** in comparison to a PS fans.

EDIT: Maybe I should word it another way. I've been accused of blind fanboyism so often, that I don't even know what being a fanboy is anymore.
It doesn't matter if your a fanboy or not, because people will think you are anyway.
I generally like Nintendo games better because of the mainly superior gameplay in comparison to PS.

People with PS2 were playing games like Jak and Dexter while people with GCN were playing Super Mario Sunshine. Those are the kind of comparisons I make, and Jak and Dexter have piss poor gameplay in comparison.
The only reason why PS All Stars Battle Royal was as good as it was(and still wasn't as good as Smash Bros. Melee), was because Nintendo had already advanced the gameplay mechanics pretty much 3 times before PS even had enough characters to throw into a mash-up game.
Physics on PS games are floaty and unrealistic, while Nintendo generally keeps their gameplay more realistic.

I admit that PS3's graphics were pretty good, but the games were very reliant on cosmetic attributes vs. actual gameplay. I hated LBP with a passion. The game looked generally interesting, but the gameplay was so piss poor in comparison to a Mario game, that I just avoided the thing altogether.
I'd rather play Assassin's Creed over inFamous anyday, and I dislike both of those games to the point where I won't play them at all.

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@SCAR392

I didn't say your opinion didn't matter. I was just clarifying the difference between being objective and subjective. You don't like Sony that much which is fine and all, but to discount that their first party studios don't compare to Nintendo is size, scope, and scale is absurd.

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