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bubble_bear

Nintendo needs to work on following through. For a while now they have been jumping from idea to idea without really seeing most of their concepts through. It seems they often don't have a clear vision before they decide to take the plunge on a new idea, while leaving other promises to fall away. It's starting to make me a bit cautious toward their new ventures. Here's a couple examples that seem to be concerning:

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The Gamepad - continues to be a rather hazy invention that clearly even the masterminds at Nintendo aren't sure what to do with. Miyamoto's underwhelming "tinkerings" at e3 are proof of that.

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Virtual Console - they have really let this thing just roll over and basically die on the Wii U (and 3DS). Two years after launch and we still don't even have a whiff of a Gamecube or N64 game? It's like they gave up. Plus, the whole controller debacle seems like a bad joke. You cannot play Wii VC games with the gamepad but must instead track down the discontinued Wii Classic controller... Requiring a discontinued controller on a Sony or MS system would not be acceptable. When will this stuff be a priority?

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“The way we’re going to be different is, we’re gonna certainly have a steadier pace of games – both for Wii U and for 3DS.”
Remember that quote? Reggie said that November of last year. So uhhh what happened then? I've been compelled to buy like three games this year, and one of them I actually paid for last year (funded the Kickstarter) called Shovel Knight. Was he actually referring to 2015?

And so two years in and the Wii U still feels like an experimental work in progress, and now Iwata and Co. want us to get excited for this...

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Amiibo - another new thing Nintendo wants us to buy that comes with a very vague "plan" for the future. They tell us the figures will work with Smash Bros. out of the gate and will "interact" with other games down the road. How? How will a Wii Fit Trainer statue interact with Mario Kart 8?

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I know you're busy Nintendo. You're making QOL (whatever that is), you're pushing out a new toy line, probably planning a new portable / console, and making a few great games in between. It would be really nice to see & feel as though you are paying attention to your prior promises as well. I WANT N64 VC!

Peace.

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ogo79

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As @ogo79 said, the SNS-RZ-USA is a prime giveaway that it's not a legit retail cart.
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Justlink

sounds like 1. You are a bit impatient 2. Nintendo's working really fast... in Japan. I believe Nintendo of America should also make games, but all they really do is localize. 3. Not all amiibo work with every game, mostly the mario ones probably

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LzWinky

And...what do you want us to do about it?

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TuVictus

I actually agree with most of this. I think their jumping from idea to idea is a result of their first idea, the gamepad, not really selling like they'd hoped. I think this is more of a panic Nintendo that's throwing things at the wall to see what sticks.

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NavySpheal

I agree, but, I also agree with what @WaLzgi said too. We can't do much about a lack of VC releases. W also don't know what amiibo will have in store. Only time will tell.

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WaLzgi wrote:

And...what do you want us to do about it?

Take me out to a nice dinner.

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gage_wolf wrote:

WaLzgi wrote:

And...what do you want us to do about it?

Take me out to a nice dinner.

I would, but I need to save for a Classic Controller

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bubble_bear

DefHalan wrote:

This just sounds like a lot of whining. I was going to address each issue he had but figured he wouldn't listen.

Oh Def. You. I'm always listening.

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RR529

To be fair, while 2015's lineup looks to be a bigger deal, they're still putting out about as much content as one company can for the rest of the year (taking into consideration collabs & snagged exclusives).

  • Wii Sports Club retail (July)
  • Hyrule Warriors (Sept)
  • Bayonetta 2 (+1) (Oct)
  • Sonic Boom (Nov)
  • Super Smash Bros. Wii U (Nov)
  • Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker (Christmas 2014)
  • NES Remix retail (Christmas 2014)
  • Devil's Third (2014)

Granted, there's a good chance one or two of those bottom three titles will be pushed back to 2015 (CT already is in Europe), but if even one of them still arrives this year (an almost certainty for NES Remix retail), that would only leave August as the one month in the second half of the year without a release.

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Kyloctopus

When it comes to the Gamepad's usage, it's more about perception, than before. Off TV Play is a satisfying aspect in it's own and games like Wind Waker and Nintendo Land are using it at it's highest potential. And Nintendo's learning from what some people hated from the Wii: Nonsensical shoehorning of aspects in games. What do you want from Lego City Undercover that would make you satisfied without others complaining it to be mindless utilization?

Alot of N64 VC is on the Wii U on Wii Mode, it's always there, but in the meantime Nintendo has put themselves in the position of adding NEW VC which is even better. GBA has a great line of games. Even greater than the N64 in my opinion. Nintendo's now at the phase where they're improving on their new VC platforms, which puts them at a greater position in the eShop than ever before.

The game line up? Definitely improved from last year.
1st half for Wii U for 2013 had Lego City Undercover, MH3U Need For Speed Most Wanted U and Game and Wario...that's about it. Considering 3 of those were released on the same day, I wouldn't call that anywhere near steady.
This 1st half of 2014 had Donkey Kong Country, Wii Sports Club, Shovel Knight, Armillo Pushmo World, GBA VC, NES Remix 2 and Mario Kart 8 could it be better? All within the same half.
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I don't know exactly how a Wii Fit Trainer will interact with Amiibo exactly, but judging by how any NFC chip could interact with Pokemon Rumble U, whether it was a Smart Card or a Disney Infinity figure, it might be that if you have another Amiibo, you could just get mere bonuses. For example, let's say you add a Mario Kart 8 Amiibo in Super Smash Bros. it might be that it shows you scanned an Amiibo, yet nothing will show up, exept the number of Amiibo figures you added on your game. Let's say you added 10 Amiibos of different kinds. 5 Smash Ones, 2 MK8 Ones, 2 Captain Toad Amiibos, and a Mario Party 10 Amiibo. The game will reward you of getting 10 Amiibos and you'll be rewarded of a trophey or whatever.
But that's just a weird guess, and yours is just as good as mine.

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NintendoFan64

@gage_wolf I'll admit, I agree with you on the part about Nintendo just sort of leaving ideas behind before putting them into action (vitality sensor, anyone?), and the Virtual console could use some work (those N64 games seem to be taking their time), but on the other hand, I disagree with you on some parts. 1. I think the reason you have to use a controller for the original Wii when playing Wii virtual console games and not the Gamepad is because you don't get them in the Wii U Eshop. You get them in the Wii shop channel. THOSE virtual console games weren't programmed to be played with a Wii U Gamepad. 2. Yes, the lineup looks a little dry at first glance, but RR529 pointed out in this same thread that there are quite a few games being released before the year ends (some of them aren't Nintendo-made, but they're exclusives that Nintendo managed to grab). 3. Just because you have a Wii Fit Trainer amiibo does not mean you can use it for Mario Kart. I don't believe that Nintendo would make all amiibos compatible with every single game that uses them. Like I said, I agreed with you on some parts, but I disagree with you on others.

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DefHalan

gage_wolf wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

This just sounds like a lot of whining. I was going to address each issue he had but figured he wouldn't listen.

Oh Def. You. I'm always listening.

Ok, you asked for it.

The GamePad wasn't what was rushed. It was the console. The console was rushed out and Nintendo has been playing keep up ever since. Nintendo is focused on getting their core franchises out first (such as Mario Kart, 2D mario, 3D mario, lots of mario) They have said at the end of this year most of their core franchises will have a normal installment. You can personally count certain games or not but it is true. At E3 we saw Captain Toad, Mario Party, Kirby Rainbow Curse, Splatoon, and probably more use the GamePad in new ways. (Splatoon had a real-time map and a quick travel system, which you may not count as "new" but I do as I don't know of any other shooter that gives you a real time)

Virtual Console has been slow and you may really want N64 but Nintendo has to worry about selling the Wii U. While N64 still hasn't come out we are getting GBA and DS. They haven't cancelled N64 support it is just going to take longer. GBA and DS is going to be a quick way for them to build up the Wii U VC library with minimal effort. They haven't announced GameCube VC so I don't expect to see that and neither should anyone else. You can hope, just you shouldn't expect.
The Wii backwards compatibility is a lot like the GameCube backwards compatibility on the Wii. You need the old controller and memory card. With the Wii U you need the Wii controller. If you have a hard time finding a Classic Controller then check here http://www.amazon.com/Classic-Controller-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B004...

During 2013 there were a lot of empty months. I also remember Reggie saying that after Mario Kart 8 we will have a steady flow of games, guess what... WE HAVE. It may not be Nintendo Developed games but I don't remember him saying that they all would be Nintendo Developed. There have been some fantastic games released on the eShop. I don't know what you expect anyone to do if you don't feel compelled to buy games, games are available for you through the eShop.

Amiibo is still a new project. When Nintendo has the answers they will share it with us. This seems more like looking for something to complain about.

To end it all you yell out that you WANT N64 VC! Hate to break it to you but N64 VC isn't going to save the Wii U and that is what Nintendo is focused on. Feel free to not care about that just understand Nintendo can't just listen to what you want and be ok, they need to do what is best for the company. Nintendo will follow through, just give them the time. If you can't wait then do it yourself, and if you can't do it yourself then don't expect someone else to do it faster.

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(end thoughts: so you will probably want to go through and tear apart what I said with your own logic and feel free but that is what I meant by you probably won't listen. I should have said there is nothing anyone can say that will change your mind. You want Nintendo to give you what you want now, you don't want to wait)

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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Octane

Just be glad you can play NES VC games. Nintendo doesn't have to do anything.

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GuSolarFlare

on a serious note, if the WiiU fails Nintendo will take the hint and make something different afterwards, that's how they do it every time they fail

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bubble_bear

Octane wrote:

Just be glad you can play NES VC games. Nintendo doesn't have to do anything.

Haha. That's like seeing a commercial for a delicious frozen cheese pizza.So you go to the store and buy the advertised frozen cheese pizza. You are really hungry by the time you get home from the store so you open the pizza box first thing, ready to cook it. You pull the pizza out. There is no tomato sauce on the pizza, just crust and cheese. You look at the box and it shows tomato sauce on the pizza in the picture. You're confused so you look at the cooking instructions on the back. It says: Thanks for buying this cheese pizza. Please wait three years for the tomato sauce to arrive, and then cook at 400 degrees for 15 minutes. You put the box down and say to yourself: "Welp, I'm glad at least I have this crust covered in cheese, because I could have opened this cheese pizza box and found nothing."

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sinalefa

I am very happy that Nintendo is following through with Bayonetta 2 and Devil's Third.

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sinalefa

Oh, and correct me if I am wrong, but while the Classic Controller was discontinued, the Classic Controller Pro is not, and both work exactly the same.

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