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FilmerNgameR

skywake wrote:

Given that the movie side of Disney looked pretty dead before they brought Pixar I don't put much weight in this theory. Lets be real here, the six or so years pre-Pixar they made Dinosaur, The Emporor's New Groove, Lilo & Stitch, Brother Bear, Chicken Little. Wow, all those memorable movies. After they pick up Pixar they make Bolt, The Princess and the Frog, Tangled, Wreck-it-Ralph and Frozen. Pixar was always great, Disney acquiring Pixar was more about getting Disney back on track than it was fixing up Pixar. John Lasseter is the Miyamoto of animated movies, he's a modern day Walt Disney, that's why they got Pixar.

In terms of Nintendo it doesn't seem like a particularly good match and the theories about how Disney would leverage them are pretty weak. When Disney brought Pixar they brought talent, creative direction as well as a lot of IP that works in the medium they've built a reputation in. When they brought Star Wars the benefit is obvious, they go out and make some more movies. Nintendo have some great IP but they have IP which won't translate well to film because their protagonists famously have no voice. Furthermore Nintendo's talent would be of little value to Disney, you don't take game developers and electrical engineers and expect them to be experts at making feature films.

And the biggest thing against this whole theory. What's in it for Nintendo? What would they gain out of it? The ability to create games with some of Disney's IP? Some of Disney and Pixar's movie making resources? I don't think that's really something they need or want. If you think Nintendo would be better off with Disney IP rather than their own, how well is Smash Bros doing? What are the best selling games of the last ten years or so? I think Nintendo's IP is pretty valuable, Nintendo don't need Disney's characters.

I totally agree with you! It wouldn't make any sense for the appearance of Disney characters in Nintendo games. They already have too many iconic characters. That was a good read btw. Nice job.

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LzWinky

As I said before, Nintendo is now in the green (which btw this article doesn't mention, but it does mention the report from several months ago)

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Gamecubed

Where did this whole conspiracy about Disney buying Nintendo start? It's a fear that shouldn't even exist.

If it did happen, maybe Club Nintendo would finally be as awesome as Disney Movie Rewards.

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LzWinky

I think this article is more of a "what if" article to be honest. The author even admits it's not very likely

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skywake

WaLzgi wrote:

I think this article is more of a "what if" article to be honest. The author even admits it's not very likely

It's the sort of non-article that's the norm at Polygon. When you have nothing to say, ramble.

Edited on by skywake

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CaviarMeths

SavoirFaire wrote:

SpookyMeths wrote:

Disney has shown repeatedly that they are a benevolent parenting company that doesn't meddle.

well now I wouldn't say that.

If you keep up with the comic book side of marvel, you see what a mess if being made of the comics because of the various holdings of the film rights. I think 10 years from now what Disney has done will be looked at as scandalous from comic book fans, and given a big "eh" by most that are not.

What does that have to do with Disney? Marvel sold off the film rights to those characters way back in the 90s, about 15 years before Disney acquired Marvel.

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martinskrtel37

Nintendo don't need saving.. stupid thread

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everyone needs to relax and enjoy the games that are released today and stop worrying what Nintendo will do in a year or two from now.

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RobbEJay

Even if it made perfect sense for Disney to buyout Nintendo, I doubt its very likely to ever happen or even be worth the trouble. I'm pretty sure that while its not outright illegal for foreign companies to buy Japanese ones, at least I recall being wrong about it when I last looked it up, I'm certain there are some seriously huge hurdles you have to jump through to do so. Thats not even considering how costly it would be or anything, and Disney wouldn't just be buying Nintendo, they'd be buying all their obligations too. Same goes for Sony for those suggesting that, they'd be buying that debt of theirs.

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kkslider5552000

WaLzgi wrote:

I think this article is more of a "what if" article to be honest. The author even admits it's not very likely

I dunno, it wouldn't be the dumbest thing Polygon has said. About Nintendo. This year.

I would like to remind people that someone at Polygon (more than one person unless they fired the editors) decided that Mario Kart 8 was only gonna sell...I believe 2 million or so copies. Based exclusively on Wii U's sales around the time of its release. As in Mario Kart 8's lifetime sales...based on Wii U's current sales. That actually happened.

Polygon is so hit and miss it's crazy. The sad thing is that I read several semi-personal and very enlightening articles on the site when that Mario Kart article was new and they were mostly really good. So it saddens me that the site can lose all self-awareness or understanding of how the world works or basic research at times.

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SCRAPPER392

kkslider5552000 wrote:

WaLzgi wrote:

I think this article is more of a "what if" article to be honest. The author even admits it's not very likely

I dunno, it wouldn't be the dumbest thing Polygon has said. About Nintendo. This year.

I would like to remind people that someone at Polygon (more than one person unless they fired the editors) decided that Mario Kart 8 was only gonna sell...I believe 2 million or so copies. Based exclusively on Wii U's sales around the time of its release. As in Mario Kart 8's lifetime sales...based on Wii U's current sales. That actually happened.

Polygon is so hit and miss it's crazy. The sad thing is that I read several semi-personal and very enlightening articles on the site when that Mario Kart article was new and they were mostly really good. So it saddens me that the site can lose all self-awareness or understanding of how the world works or basic research at times.

I'm guessing that you are talking about this:
http://www.polygon.com/2014/10/31/7133147/mario-kart-8-sales-...
...compared to...
http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/15/5718168/mario-kart-series-sales

They thought Mario Kart 8 was going to sell like 1.26 million copies. They failed to understand what kind of audience was buying Wii U. For some reason, people think that "core gamers" aren't buying it, and neither are "casual" gamers, but that completely contradicts itself.

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skywake

What's sad is when you read the comments on even the second article and see people defending the original prediction. It didn't take a genius to realise that a game like Mario Kart, particularly a well reviewed one, would end up being one of the best selling games. Same thing here with this waffle about Disney buying Nintendo that can be convincingly rebuked in a couple of paragraphs. Pretty pathetic really, not worth giving them the attention when they're putting out trash like this.

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SCRAPPER392

@skywake
I agree. I just don't like the biased articles. I'm pretty sure everyone has seen an article about Nintendo's finances. People actually thought Nintendo was going bankrupt, and they have more money than Sony. It makes you wonder where people get these fabrications. I think somewhere down the line, people legitimately chose Sony with PS as their go to console, and their change of preference somehow made them think that EVERYONE wasn't interested in Nintendo games/console, anymore.

Some of the criticism makes zero sense, and it happens every generation. People just like to hate on things, and it's a shame that it happens on reputable gaming sites, that people are supposed to be able trust. When people believe or trust those types of articles, it's akin to the story of Chicken Little.

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SCRAPPER392

skywake wrote:

In a word? Clickbait

Ya, but all that does is either convince gullible online dwellers of something false, encourage trolls to keep trolling, or annoy the people who actually know what's going on. EDIT: That's only in a case like this. There are other forms of clickbait, just in case anyone doesn't know.

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Qwest

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jump

Not sure it has already been mentioned but the article gets things wrong like saying the Iron Man movie was a success due to Disney even though that was years before the buy out, it talked about how sucessfull Disney has been with Star Wars before the results have been seen and it makes no mention of Marvel's core business of making comics and the huge drop in quality of Marvel's cartoon.

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kkslider5552000

SCAR392 wrote:

kkslider5552000 wrote:

WaLzgi wrote:

I think this article is more of a "what if" article to be honest. The author even admits it's not very likely

I dunno, it wouldn't be the dumbest thing Polygon has said. About Nintendo. This year.

I would like to remind people that someone at Polygon (more than one person unless they fired the editors) decided that Mario Kart 8 was only gonna sell...I believe 2 million or so copies. Based exclusively on Wii U's sales around the time of its release. As in Mario Kart 8's lifetime sales...based on Wii U's current sales. That actually happened.

Polygon is so hit and miss it's crazy. The sad thing is that I read several semi-personal and very enlightening articles on the site when that Mario Kart article was new and they were mostly really good. So it saddens me that the site can lose all self-awareness or understanding of how the world works or basic research at times.

I'm guessing that you are talking about this:
http://www.polygon.com/2014/10/31/7133147/mario-kart-8-sales-...
...compared to...
http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/15/5718168/mario-kart-series-sales

They thought Mario Kart 8 was going to sell like 1.26 million copies. They failed to understand what kind of audience was buying Wii U. For some reason, people think that "core gamers" aren't buying it, and neither are "casual" gamers, but that completely contradicts itself.

Those are valid issues but this goes to simple numbers and understanding game sales at a very basic level. I'm to this day astounded that they thought no one was gonna buy a Wii U once the new Mario Kart was out. And according to their logic, I mean that ENTIRELY LITERALLY. "No one". Because that would be the only way they could be correct is if Wii U sales literally never increased.

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SCRAPPER392

kkslider5552000 wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

kkslider5552000 wrote:

WaLzgi wrote:

I think this article is more of a "what if" article to be honest. The author even admits it's not very likely

I dunno, it wouldn't be the dumbest thing Polygon has said. About Nintendo. This year.

I would like to remind people that someone at Polygon (more than one person unless they fired the editors) decided that Mario Kart 8 was only gonna sell...I believe 2 million or so copies. Based exclusively on Wii U's sales around the time of its release. As in Mario Kart 8's lifetime sales...based on Wii U's current sales. That actually happened.

Polygon is so hit and miss it's crazy. The sad thing is that I read several semi-personal and very enlightening articles on the site when that Mario Kart article was new and they were mostly really good. So it saddens me that the site can lose all self-awareness or understanding of how the world works or basic research at times.

I'm guessing that you are talking about this:
http://www.polygon.com/2014/10/31/7133147/mario-kart-8-sales-...
...compared to...
http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/15/5718168/mario-kart-series-sales

They thought Mario Kart 8 was going to sell like 1.26 million copies. They failed to understand what kind of audience was buying Wii U. For some reason, people think that "core gamers" aren't buying it, and neither are "casual" gamers, but that completely contradicts itself.

Those are valid issues but this goes to simple numbers and understanding game sales at a very basic level. I'm to this day astounded that they thought no one was gonna buy a Wii U once the new Mario Kart was out. And according to their logic, I mean that ENTIRELY LITERALLY. "No one". Because that would be the only way they could be correct is if Wii U sales literally never increased.

I understand what you are saying, but that also means that they thought no one cared about Mario Kart 8, at all. People bought Mario Kart 8 or a Wii U and Mario Kart 8(together). They didn't think there was that much interest or awareness of the game, which means they didn't understand the audience.

This all goes back to that people with pessimistic opinions about Wii U not appealing to "core" gamers, because then it actually would be selling 0. Nintendo fans ARE "core" gamers, but alot of people don't realize that, because... Xbox and PS. It's even more annoying when people say it is failing to sell to EITHER "casual" OR "core" gamers, because someone is buying it. If those 7 million or so Wii U owners aren't "casual" OR "core" gamers, then WTF are they?!

Qwest

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Gold_Ranger

Disney is NOT allowed to buy Nintendo!
No foreign Company can buy Japanese Companies
I don't know why this didn't come up in the first place.
Whoever wrote this "article" is a complete moron!

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