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Topic: According to Nintendo World Report, the Wii U is doing significantly worse than GCN.

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skywake

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61. Posted:

memoryman3 wrote:

At least XB1 has good third party support. Don't like the linearity of Ryse? Play Watch_Dogs coming May 27th, the same time as the other versions, with the same extras such as DLC and the companion app. Don't like modern cites? Wait for Dishonored II, coming 2016, when the system will still be relevant on the eyes of gamers. Too violent for you? There is the upcoming Minecraft Xbox One Edition you can enjoy alone or with friends!.

But what fantastic thing does it have that the PS4 doesn't? You've given a list of reasons as to why the Wii U isn't doing as well as the 360/PS3/PS4/XBOne/PC cloud of potential gaming hardware options. That's cool. But why would you get a XBOne specifically especially when of all of the "third party boxes" it's about the most expensive option. The thing is $50AU more than a PS4, $600AU more than not getting a new console. That's a fair chunk of cash to spend on something that doesn't really give you anything extra. So why? That's the question.

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Hy8ogen

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62. Posted:

The reason why the Wii U is failing is simple, it does not have enough hype.

The sad truth is that people nowadays do not buy things based on their values or functionality, if it has hype, it will get the sales. I mean look at the PS4, I tried it at my friends place and all I can say is, bleh. Yes it is an impressive machine with huge specs but the interface is duller than my PS3's and there is absolutely no games on there, but people still buy it!

I personally find the PS4 sales number crazy given the amount of entertainment it provides (as of now). Out of the 3 8th gen, I think the Wii U has the most entertainment value followed by the Xbone. The PS4 hype was freaking intense, and that craze turned into sales numbers. It's all about the hype.

So what does Nintendo needs to do? HYPE it at E3 this year. If they fail to do that, I don't see how they can recover.

The above is SOLELY my close minded opinion.

skywake wrote:

memoryman3 wrote:

At least XB1 has good third party support. Don't like the linearity of Ryse? Play Watch_Dogs coming May 27th, the same time as the other versions, with the same extras such as DLC and the companion app. Don't like modern cites? Wait for Dishonored II, coming 2016, when the system will still be relevant on the eyes of gamers. Too violent for you? There is the upcoming Minecraft Xbox One Edition you can enjoy alone or with friends!.

But what fantastic thing does it have that the PS4 doesn't? You've given a list of reasons as to why the Wii U isn't doing as well as the 360/PS3/PS4/XBOne/PC cloud of potential gaming hardware options. That's cool. But why would you get a XBOne specifically especially when of all of the "third party boxes" it's about the most expensive option. The thing is $50AU more than a PS4, $600AU more than not getting a new console. That's a fair chunk of cash to spend on something that doesn't really give you anything extra. So why? That's the question.

I think the Kinect is dragging the Xbone down. If M$ gets rid of the Kinect and come up with the Xbone 1 console only option, I'm pretty sure it will fly off the shelves. Although I still won't be getting the Xbone though.... I need a PS4 just to play next gen Bandai Namco games. Assuming if Bandai Namco still put their games as Sony exclusive, which is extremely likely due to the sales numbers.

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shingi_70

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63. Posted:

@Hy8ogen

Than you'd have to wait the semtance where you rank the systems because as now that wording makes it seems like a fact and not an opinion.

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shingi_70

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64. Posted:

@Hy8ogen

Than you'd have to wait the semtance where you rank the systems because as now that wording makes it seems like a fact and not an opinion.

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skywake

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65. Posted:

Hy8ogen wrote:

I think the Kinect is dragging the Xbone down. If M$ gets rid of the Kinect and come up with the Xbone 1 console only option, I'm pretty sure it will fly off the shelves. Although I still won't be getting the Xbone though.... I need a PS4 just to play next gen Bandai Namco games. Assuming if Bandai Namco still put their games as Sony exclusive, which is extremely likely due to the sales numbers.

There are two things holding the XBOne back: Price and PS4. Killing the Kinect partially addresses one of those things.

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SCAR

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66. Posted:

I don't care, because reason.

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Megumi

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67. Posted:

....Meh...as long Nintendo keeps giving me great games, screw everyone else. >.>

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shingi_70

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68. Posted:

Despite the fact both the Wii U and the one have more concrete games ready for this year I doubt its going to change the tide. I fully expect this gen to mirror the sixth gen quite a while.

Will be intresting to see Microsoft's handling of Halo like Microsoft did the first Wii U Zelda.

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MAN1AC

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69. Posted:

Mizore wrote:

....Meh...as long Nintendo keeps giving me great games, screw everyone else. >.>

We've had two 1st party games in 5 months.
E3 can't come soon enough.

Four more months until Bayonetta 2.

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shingi_70

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70. Posted:

MAN1AC wrote:

Mizore wrote:

....Meh...as long Nintendo keeps giving me great games, screw everyone else. >.>

We've had two 1st party games in 5 months.
E3 can't come soon enough.

Three counting Nes Remix 2.

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Dreamz

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71. Posted:

It should be pretty obvious by this point that 1st part releases alone aren't sufficient to pull the Wii U out of the purgatory it's currently in.

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faint

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72. Posted:

shingi_70 wrote:

MAN1AC wrote:

Mizore wrote:

....Meh...as long Nintendo keeps giving me great games, screw everyone else. >.>

We've had two 1st party games in 5 months.
E3 can't come soon enough.

Three counting Nes Remix 2.

nes remix 1 also falls into five months as does dr luigi but who counting.

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kkslider5552000

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73. Posted:

MAN1AC wrote:

E3 can't come soon enough.

seconded. Ideally an E3 where Microsoft stops undermining its more interesting ideas (and Nintendo too with recent gamepad questionable support) and Nintendo finally having Wii U games again (and less indie delays, that really killed what little they had).

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faint

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74. Posted:

kkslider5552000 wrote:

MAN1AC wrote:

E3 can't come soon enough.

seconded. Ideally an E3 where Microsoft stops undermining its more interesting ideas (and Nintendo too with recent gamepad questionable support) and Nintendo finally having Wii U games again (and less indie delays, that really killed what little they had).

yeah did they set up the illumaroom.....or what ever it's called. i thought that was the coolest xbox one feature but i haven't seem a thing about it since it was anounced pre launch. i don't have one myselfe but you think i would at least see talk about it. that idea has alot of potential with the right developers behind it.

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rockodoodle

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75. Posted:

Pretty much agree. If you are a parent with kids under ten, this is a no brainer. First, the content is much more appropriate, but also, offline play is really awesome. And the gamepad is good for surfing and Netflix.

Sad that the media have crapped on the Gamepad as a controller- this is why I bought the system to a degree, and I think it's pretty awesome. Perhaps its greatest value proposition is characterized as "bulky" and unneeded.

Hy8ogen wrote:

The reason why the Wii U is failing is simple, it does not have enough hype.

The sad truth is that people nowadays do not buy things based on their values or functionality, if it has hype, it will get the sales. I mean look at the PS4, I tried it at my friends place and all I can say is, bleh. Yes it is an impressive machine with huge specs but the interface is duller than my PS3's and there is absolutely no games on there, but people still buy it!

I personally find the PS4 sales number crazy given the amount of entertainment it provides (as of now). Out of the 3 8th gen, I think the Wii U has the most entertainment value followed by the Xbone. The PS4 hype was freaking intense, and that craze turned into sales numbers. It's all about the hype.

So what does Nintendo needs to do? HYPE it at E3 this year. If they fail to do that, I don't see how they can recover.

The above is SOLELY my close minded opinion.

skywake wrote:

memoryman3 wrote:

At least XB1 has good third party support. Don't like the linearity of Ryse? Play Watch_Dogs coming May 27th, the same time as the other versions, with the same extras such as DLC and the companion app. Don't like modern cites? Wait for Dishonored II, coming 2016, when the system will still be relevant on the eyes of gamers. Too violent for you? There is the upcoming Minecraft Xbox One Edition you can enjoy alone or with friends!.

But what fantastic thing does it have that the PS4 doesn't? You've given a list of reasons as to why the Wii U isn't doing as well as the 360/PS3/PS4/XBOne/PC cloud of potential gaming hardware options. That's cool. But why would you get a XBOne specifically especially when of all of the "third party boxes" it's about the most expensive option. The thing is $50AU more than a PS4, $600AU more than not getting a new console. That's a fair chunk of cash to spend on something that doesn't really give you anything extra. So why? That's the question.

I think the Kinect is dragging the Xbone down. If M$ gets rid of the Kinect and come up with the Xbone 1 console only option, I'm pretty sure it will fly off the shelves. Although I still won't be getting the Xbone though.... I need a PS4 just to play next gen Bandai Namco games. Assuming if Bandai Namco still put their games as Sony exclusive, which is extremely likely due to the sales numbers.

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unrandomsam

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76. Posted:

The Gamepad could be seen is the same way as Kinect. (Without it (Or even with a way to disable it when necessary) I wouldn't need another TV. An optical out would also have meant I could use component with acceptable lag. I don't think I will ever find one I like more than the one I have especially at 33% of its RRP of £1500). Plus there is the space issue. A projector might be an option if suitable ones exist because I want one anyway.

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rockodoodle

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77. Posted:

unrandomsam wrote:

The Gamepad could be seen is the same way as Kinect. (Without it (Or even with a way to disable it when necessary) I wouldn't need another TV. An optical out would also have meant I could use component with acceptable lag. I don't think I will ever find one I like more than the one I have especially at 33% of its RRP of £1500). Plus there is the space issue. A projector might be an option if suitable ones exist because I want one anyway.

Maybe I haven't played the best games for Kinnect but it seems to me the best thing it would be for is Just Dance, and that's really not my thing.

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KoopaTrooper

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78. Posted:

Some people will always buy the most technically impressive hardware, but many of those users will also buy a 2nd console. If Nintendo can position itself as that 2nd console with must play games it can be successful. As far as selling millions of units to the casuals like the Wii did you have to have different types of software as the wii sports and balance board is no longer doing it. I also think MS made a mistake with the Kinect. They were trying to grab that same audience the Wii got that propelled it into the stratosphere. Problem is those people weren't gamers. They saw the wii as a novel, new gimmick only due to all the news reports at the time of its release. Meaning beyond a few titles most of those wii's went on to collect dust and not make Nintendo any royalties or software sales.

The one thing I see Nintendo has going for itself is their attention to polishing their titles before release, but really how many mario and Zelda games can you make before your audiences grows tired of them. They need innovation, new IP's and they still need to sell the systems biggest asset that separates it from the competition: The Gamepad. IMO they don't have anything beyond the tech demo's that became Wii U Party and Nintendoland.

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CanisWolfred

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79. Posted:

MAN1AC wrote:

CanisWolfred wrote:

Except they're taking that out of context. What were the circumstances? What came out around that time? How were the competition doing? To me, it looks like a general slump. The 3DS wasn't tracking too well either. Why was that?

That article told me basically nothing.

Elaborate please.
This is pretty straight forward info here. This article is referring to sales, not something subjective like the quality of the games on the console.

But without context that information is useless. It's one thing to talk about sales in a certain period while looking at a chart showing all the other games that came out within that period, when they came out, and how they did - it's another thing entirely to simply compare the raw numbers. The former is actually informative while the other may as well have not said anything at all.

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rockodoodle

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80. Posted:

I'm somewhat of a "casual" player- I think that Nintendo should put Dusty's Real Baseball on the Wii U- and other mini games like that. I decided to pick up Wii U sports after their free weekend and I've enjoyed that a lot more than I thought I would.

Even tho I've enjoyed several non-Nintendo titles like Tekkin, Sonic & All Stars, Injustice, Rayman etc., probably more than at least some Nintendo titles, I can't imagine owning a system as a primary system where I can't play Mario/Donkey Kong or Mario Kart.

KoopaTrooper wrote:

Some people will always buy the most technically impressive hardware, but many of those users will also buy a 2nd console. If Nintendo can position itself as that 2nd console with must play games it can be successful. As far as selling millions of units to the casuals like the Wii did you have to have different types of software as the wii sports and balance board is no longer doing it. I also think MS made a mistake with the Kinect. They were trying to grab that same audience the Wii got that propelled it into the stratosphere. Problem is those people weren't gamers. They saw the wii as a novel, new gimmick only due to all the news reports at the time of its release. Meaning beyond a few titles most of those wii's went on to collect dust and not make Nintendo any royalties or software sales.

The one thing I see Nintendo has going for itself is their attention to polishing their titles before release, but really how many mario and Zelda games can you make before your audiences grows tired of them. They need innovation, new IP's and they still need to sell the systems biggest asset that separates it from the competition: The Gamepad. IMO they don't have anything beyond the tech demo's that became Wii U Party and Nintendoland.

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