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Bankai

1. Posted: Thu 14th Feb 2013 01:04 GMT

http://gamasutra.com/view/news/186592/Several_out_of_work_as_...

As many as 25, in fact.

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2. Posted: Thu 14th Feb 2013 01:19 GMT

Wow. I'd never expect Valve, of all companies, to layoff a minimum of twenty five employees.

After reading it, it's quite obvious Valve is struggling financially in more ways than one. But where and why, are the questions. This is odd.

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3. Posted: Thu 14th Feb 2013 01:30 GMT

It seems odd that they'd be stuggling. I mean, yeah, they're not on the stock market (locally) but Steam seems to be successful for them, with PC gaming looking to be on the rise, and I'd assume they'd be getting cash from all the Steam Box deals.

Still, maybe they just had too many people.

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4. Posted: Thu 14th Feb 2013 01:37 GMT

25 people? That is so many and I am shock and appalled.

Also, how many people work for valve? Is 25 a large percentage? A small percentage?

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Bankai

5. Posted: Thu 14th Feb 2013 02:06 GMT

Chrono_Cross wrote:

Wow. I'd never expect Valve, of all companies, to layoff a minimum of twenty five employees.

After reading it, it's quite obvious Valve is struggling financially in more ways than one. But where and why, are the questions. This is odd.

As cruelly cynical as this sounds - as some point, if you try and please the customer too much, you bankrupt yourself.

As much as I admire Valve's games and its dedication to taking 20 years, if necessary (and yes, that's exaggeration), to release games. As much as I admire Steam's commitment to driving prices lower for the customer.

As some point the simple realities of business can and will catch up with even the most hard working "company for the people."

Also, Valve has been hit around a bit with the train wreck that is Windows 8 and has been forced into making a hardware play with the Steambox. That stuff isn't cheap to get into.

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6. Posted: Thu 14th Feb 2013 02:20 GMT

Apart from coasting on the success of their digital enterprise, and there's nothing wrong in doing so, I still haven't heard much to get me excited.

Hopefully layoffs are an indicator of more realistic expectations by the company. There's no point in sinking a huge mass of bodies into the sea when you could stay afloat by affording some survivors a life boat. /analogy

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7. Posted: Thu 14th Feb 2013 02:49 GMT

And then they were picked up by Retro....

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8. Posted: Thu 14th Feb 2013 04:00 GMT

Bankai wrote:

Chrono_Cross wrote:

Wow. I'd never expect Valve, of all companies, to layoff a minimum of twenty five employees.

After reading it, it's quite obvious Valve is struggling financially in more ways than one. But where and why, are the questions. This is odd.

As cruelly cynical as this sounds - as some point, if you try and please the customer too much, you bankrupt yourself.

As much as I admire Valve's games and its dedication to taking 20 years, if necessary (and yes, that's exaggeration), to release games. As much as I admire Steam's commitment to driving prices lower for the customer.

As some point the simple realities of business can and will catch up with even the most hard working "company for the people."

Also, Valve has been hit around a bit with the train wreck that is Windows 8 and has been forced into making a hardware play with the Steambox. That stuff isn't cheap to get into.

Is windows 8 really that much of strain wreck? I've been using it as my main driver on both a laptop and tablet and its pretty good. Valve has a problem with the windows store which they seems to think encroaches on their store. (It does it some ways)

Really wonder how much building steam for Linux and the steam box has cost them.

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9. Posted: Thu 14th Feb 2013 04:05 GMT

Sony_70 wrote:

Bankai wrote:

Chrono_Cross wrote:

Wow. I'd never expect Valve, of all companies, to layoff a minimum of twenty five employees.

After reading it, it's quite obvious Valve is struggling financially in more ways than one. But where and why, are the questions. This is odd.

As cruelly cynical as this sounds - as some point, if you try and please the customer too much, you bankrupt yourself.

As much as I admire Valve's games and its dedication to taking 20 years, if necessary (and yes, that's exaggeration), to release games. As much as I admire Steam's commitment to driving prices lower for the customer.

As some point the simple realities of business can and will catch up with even the most hard working "company for the people."

Also, Valve has been hit around a bit with the train wreck that is Windows 8 and has been forced into making a hardware play with the Steambox. That stuff isn't cheap to get into.

Is windows 8 really that much of strain wreck? I've been using it as my main driver on both a laptop and tablet and its pretty good. Valve has a problem with the windows store which they seems to think encroaches on their store. (It does it some ways)

Really wonder how much building steam for Linux and the steam box has cost them.

People reacted better to Vista than Windows 8.

And more importantly from the point of view from this thread, Windows 8 forced Valve to make Steam for Linux and develop its own game console. I'm pretty sure than Valve considers Windows 8 a train wreck.

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10. Posted: Thu 14th Feb 2013 04:12 GMT

They're not the only ones Bankai. I don't care to upgrade because it's a pointless system imo.

Also, as cynical as you are about it, you are right. Consumers always think that businesses exist to only serve them, but in reality, businesses have to serve themselves as well. No one here knows how to run a business unless they've actually done it (experience speaks louder than simple words).

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