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NEStalgia

@darkfenrir Sony always has a "Slim" model a few years into a generation that is basically a cheaper to produce version of the original that is smaller, lighter, typically runs cooler due to newer smaller die process chip manufacture (which is usually why it's cheaper.) Usually it has some every so slightly upgraded internals, inside a cheaper looking/feeling shell. Think of it as "PS4 Revision 2." It's just the current PS4 model that's less flashy, bulky, and costs less. (Same for XBox 1S versus XBox 1, and New 3DS compared to 3DS, except that had more notable "upgrade" features.) You can't actually get an original PS4 anymore via standard retail, as it's the old discontinued model (with THE. WORST. BUTTONS. EVER.)

Pro and 1X on the other hand are "step up" models that add more performance, mostly 4k output, but also possible slight improvement in visuals, framerates, and better load time (my personal selling feature.) 1X is actually weird because it's more a full upgrade, where Pro is more like an overclocked PS4.

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darkfenrir

@NEStalgia Thank you for the detailed answer! Considering I never owned anything out of Sony's Gaming Department other than PSVita, I kinda don't realise that. Seems it's a pure upgrade then.

(I asked because the retail over here still have it in stock, well, it's bundled with a game I'm not interested in, but still there nonetheless).

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Octane

@Haru17 Based on what? The fact that all their games play the same? Which isn't a weird thing, considering all they've made so far is three Witcher games...

Horizon Zero Dawn played nothing like Killzone, and that was Guerilla Games' second IP too.

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NEStalgia

@darkfenrir Vita went through a similar process, actually. The much more quiet "revision 2" changed the body shape for the better, slightly bumped the internals, and finally supported a standard USB charger rather than the odd proprietary thing the PCH1000, and made button placement improvements, BUT at the terrible cost of replacing the very special OLED display with a generic LCD display. That was one of the uglier product revisions I've seen where a key feature was removed.

Nintendo used to do these things more in the retro days in NA. The NA "toaster slot" gray NES was replaced later with an NES featuring a top-load slot like the Famicom rather than the problem prone toaster (iconic as it was.) And the boxy purple NA SNES was eventually replaced by a slight recolor of the international Super Famicom. But Since N64 Nintendo doesn't really do revisions unless we count the Wii Mini (after the Wii was done), or the DS/DSi/DSLite and 3DS/N3DSwhich was more like the Pro than the Slim.

But yep, with Sony, always count on a "Slim" about 2-3 years into a new console gen that refreshes the original hardware and drops the price. And while looking and feeling less premium often fixes issues with the original (seriously the power and eject buttons on the original or "Fat" (or "The Eraser" since the design looked like a giant pencil eraser....) version were awful. Capacitive contact switches that were located in easy to hit places. I often ended up hitting eject by tapping it with something and not knowing for DAYS the thing was non-stop trying to eject a disc and blowing hot air! Your Slim will have real honest to goodness push buttons. That was the single best feature switching to Pro gave me as well. But I still use my annoying contact sensitive Eraser as well. )

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darkfenrir

@NEStalgia haha, yeah! I remember people saying that the reiteration is worse than the 'Phat' Vita. Maybe that's why I think of Slim as something worse than the original xP

(Had the original vita at the time so I just ignore the slim existence even though it looks nicer to hold to bhe honest).

Nonetheless have been seeing PS4 slim for 273,5 USD over here. [Saving intensifies as I look at prices]

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NEStalgia

@darkfenrir same! Everything about slim Vita is better than the original, except the screen.... And since the screen was one of the biggest selling points of vita, it's seemed like an awful downgrade to be. But ps4 slim doesn't suffer that downgrade....poor Vita.

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darkfenrir

@NEStalgia Vita always get the flak I like it, but it's just... I wish it's cared for by Sony more Q_Q

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Haru17

@Octane Guerilla made first-person shooters and they went on to make a third-person shooter. Moreover, they're a studio that's actually competent at creating action, which Project with a K is definitely not.

It's probably gonna play like the Witcher. Did you see the blades on the tortured robot lady? Also, Witcher 3 had a crossbow, so there are your rudimentary shooter controls.

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Generic PSN+ question: if your subscription lapses, even for a week, and then you renew, are all your "Free games" in your library gone? I always believed it worked that way, but wanted to check.

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Octane

@NEStalgia Don't believe so. Whenever you subscribe again, you get access to all the games you previously got through PS+.

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NEStalgia

@Octane Ohh, that would be cool! I always had this impression for some reason that you only keep them as long as the subscription is continuous and uninterrupted and if you ever let it lapse all your games are gone. I've never added any of the games to my library, because I knew I wouldn't keep it continuous (and haven't payed since it went to $50, then $60.) But I bought a month this month for the MH & Dissidia demos and the freebies are actually pretty decent, and the wording doesn't seem as foreboding anymore.

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Octane

@NEStalgia No, I'm pretty sure you regain access to your PS+ games when you subscribe again.

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Ryu_Niiyama

@NEStalgia Yeah you regain access. I still can't convince myself to get the yearly sub but I'll pick up 3 a month card on occasion and I regain access to the free games again.

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That's awesome news, thanks!

@Ryu_Niiyama I got the 1-year pass for cheap shortly after black friday thanks to @ralizah pointing out the sale.....but I haven't activated the code from Amazon yet, opting to stretch it out until I'm actually using a lot...for...something? I figured with the demos and the additional savings on Hitman which I was buying on the sale, it was like $4 for the one month sub so I figured I might as well. Freebies of some decent games as part of it isn't a bad deal if I get to keep them next time I renew Might buy the Frozen Wilds DLC for $5 off too sometime in the next few months (though I haven't opened Horizon yet....)

Heck, does anyone know if XBL works the same way? If so it may actually pay to buy an XB and sub just to collect some of the freebies

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Ralizah

@NEStalgia I was incredibly tempted to re-subscribe and grab some cheap games at the beginning of 2018 (including The Last Guardian for an amazing $20 price), until I remembered that I already have a bunch of games I got last year and hadn't even started playing.

So I've become the painful process of ignoring good sales until I clear out my PS4 backlog.

It's too bad the PS4 isn't portable, as my backlog would be much smaller or non-existent.

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@Ralizah I skipped most of the sales....looked at Last Guardian but still not sure about it, and I also compare to physical pricing....Last Guardian you can get physical for around the same price if you buy used, so not much real benefit. I'm not sold on it entirely either.

Not that I don't have a similarly huge backlog. There's always Remote Play? Sorta.... At least they still give out Vita games for the freebies on subscription. That's a nice surprise (and PSVR.)

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Gamer83

@CanisWolfred
I liked Sakura a lot in Street Fighter IV but not enough to make her part of my regular rotation with Ryu and Cammy. She's awesome in V, though, going to make her my third main.

I agree about the grinding, I don't mind it in an RPG, but fighting games shouldn't feel like a slog. I like what MS did with Killer Instinct far more than how Sony and Capcom have rolled this one out and the way you have to get characters if you don't want to shell out ridiculous sums of money on top of the $60 entry fee if you bought the vanilla version at launch. However, now that there's actual single player content, SF V is my new favorite fighting game of this generation. SF's gameplay is almost always unmatched. No different this time.

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MisterPi

So Sony are doing their own line of amiibo like figurines. Without NFC of course

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Dezzy

Ralizah wrote:

@NEStalgia I was incredibly tempted to re-subscribe and grab some cheap games at the beginning of 2018 (including The Last Guardian for an amazing $20 price), until I remembered that I already have a bunch of games I got last year and hadn't even started playing.

It's currently even less than that in the UK.

I also just got Resident Evil Revelations 2 for £5. Absolute bargain. I loved the first game so looking forward to play this one. These seem to be the closest thing to RE4.

Converted from Sony to Nintendo during 7th gen and never looked back.

MisterPi

Revelations two is a blast
I especially love that each person has their own role in co op play. It makes it feel way more impactful as a second player

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