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Dezzy

Well yeah but they all have the same characters being voice acted, so it's obviously relevant.

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Morpheel

I heard a Zelda speak fluent Spanish in Breath of the Wild.

I would still be surprised/amused if a remake of, say, Ocarina of Time adding voice acting. Not because it’s weird or unexpected, simply because it’s new and different in that specific context.

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Yeah I don’t know either.

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@Morpheel
"I heard a Zelda speak fluent Spanish in Breath of the Wild."

What?
Link puede hablar en español también??

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Morpheel

Link no habla

Yeah I don’t know either.

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Dezzy

Morpheel wrote:

I heard a Zelda speak fluent Spanish in Breath of the Wild.

I would still be surprised/amused if a remake of, say, Ocarina of Time adding voice acting. Not because it’s weird or unexpected, simply because it’s new and different in that specific context.

That's a different incarnation of Zelda though. Crisis Core and Advent Children are supposed to be the same characters just a year before and after.
You should totally play Crisis Core if you haven't anyway cos it's a great game.

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Dezzy

Just finished my final playthrough of FFXV, now that it's finally complete, so thought I'd give my thoughts, for anyone else who's played it or is looking to play it.

It's truly incredible how much they improved this game from its original launch version. I really would say they turned it from a 7/10 game into a 9/10 game. Pretty much every single update they've added was a genuine improvement to either the story or the gameplay. Here's my main summary:

Positives:
-The main DLC episodes have fixed most of the problems with the game's story and pacing. Ignis, Prompto and Ardyn DLC plugged the massive holes in the story. Whereas Prompto, Comrades, Ardyn and Expanded Insomnia fix the awful pacing of the launch version by adding a lot more non-linearity and exploration to the second half of the game. At launch the second half felt like FF13 corridors. It no longer does because all of those DLC contain a fair amount of exploration.
-Cor, Aranea and Ravus all feel more fleshed-out characters now because of how many times they were included in these DLC. At launch they felt so under-developed.
-A massive amount of side-quests have been added since launch. The Regalia races are excellent. The Timed Quests are fun. The FFXIV crossover is great, especially given that it had an impact on the rest of the game.
-Some of the smaller gameplay additions in the Royal Pack were surprisingly really good. I loved being able to sail around the ocean. Even if there wasn't much to do, it was just a really relaxing way to go fishing and take photos at the various hotspots. The Armiger Unleashed ability you unlock after getting all of the Royal Arms is really good too. Super fun to use and really makes you feel powerful. A great reward for doing all of those optional dungeons and essential if you're going to work through all of the menace dungeons.

Negatives:

-Really hoped they would add some final patch to make all of the DLC and add-on content seamless with the main game. Sadly they didn't, so it's a bit of a hassle to play it all in sequence. Not the end of the world though.
-The only remaining hole in the story is Luna's lack of a meaningful role. She's really the only character that feels short-changed and largely pointless, despite having so much potential. Really glad she did make a cameo in the Expanded Insomnia chapter though. Felt good to bring it full circle given she was such an important part of the original motivations.
-Gladio's DLC still feels pretty much pointless to the story, although it's fairly fun gameplay-wise. I'm glad they slightly linked it up with the Ardyn anime though, due to a crossover character.

Final Verdict 9/10
Really impressed how much they rescued this mess of a game. The story, characters and world are some of the best they've ever made.
It's cemented itself as my 5th favourite FF game. (FF9,FF7,FF6,FF10,FF15).
Make sure you play it. But make sure you follow a guide of the correct order to play/watch everything, or you might miss something.

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Magician

Although Square Enix's E3 press conference was great, I wonder how bad the backlash for FF7R will be once players discover that it's only a third of the game?

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PikPi

At this point, can't imagine any worse than what's already been seen. We already knew it was episodic, and honestly the fact that it's just Midgard doesn't surprise me, either. Still disappointed about it, but at least they finally have a release date, though I may just wait until at least the second part is released. It'll suck to get to the end of Midgard and then realize you probably need to wait another 2 years minimum to get the next part

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Anti-Matter

I saw and heard Barrett on FF VII remake said s*** during Boss battle with Scorpion robot. 😒
What the heck?!

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PikPi

In the original, it was written as &#&$# characters. They just took off the censor lol

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Ralizah

@Dezzy I only played the demo, which completely put me off the game. Do big gobs of imperials still get air-dropped on your party every couple of minutes?

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LMAO M-rated based on all the salty language alone.

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OMG.... 😮
Cid said bad words too?! (But the words censored) 😕
Hopefully the bad words both from dubbing and text heavily censored (Use "beep" sound and the text changed into symbols) for final product. 🙄

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FullbringIchigo

@Anti-Matter Cloud also said B****** at the end, it's just a curse word, no big deal

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Ralizah

@Anti-Matter I'm guessing they'll just lessen the profanity a bit and keep it uncensored, like in the trailer with Barrett. Which works for me. The profanity was only funny in the original because of the rudimentary 3D models and the Q-Bert-esque censorship.

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Dezzy

Ralizah wrote:

@Dezzy I only played the demo, which completely put me off the game. Do big gobs of imperials still get air-dropped on your party every couple of minutes?

It changes a lot throughout the game. There's some points where they do, but not for the majority they don't.
The demo of FFXV was highly unrepresentative of the final version though, so you shouldn't avoid it based on that.

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CanisWolfred

Square-Enix released some (presumedly) new information on Final Fantasy VII Remake, detailing the story, combat system, and just showing off lots of screen shots: Link

It really is just Midgar, though they're also gonna add some content and flesh out the non-playable NPCs (which I always wanted, so yay). Actually, consudering how many times I've played through Final Fantasy VII only to stop right after leaving Midgar, I'm actually tempted to pick up the first part simply because, well.....to me, Midgar is Final Fantasy VII. To see the action scenes I'd used to compose in my head on screen in more action-oriented combat that...honestly sounds exactly like what I'd hoped they'd do with Final Fantasy after Crisis Core. Like, exactly. Yeah, I think I need to play this sooner than later.

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Dezzy

They're adding A LOT of content if it's gonna be 2 bluray disks worth. That's pretty insane. FFXV base game fit on a single bluray. So Midgar is twice the amount of content of all FFXV.

I'm still not entirely in favour of ending at the end of Midgar, I think that's gonna lead to extending the full thing way too far. They should've set a maximum of 3 games for the entire thing. Which is gonna be quite a squeeze to fit into with Midgar being an entire game.

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Anti-Matter

FF VII remake was already Blah in my eyes after i watched from SquareEnix presentation. 😒
OMG ULTRA HD realistic graphics like that still never ever convince me. I heard the bad words also from their mouth so.... Forget that game. It just another game with FF VII as the title. 🙄

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NEStalgia

My feeling on the episodic nature of FFVII has changed after seeing it's 2 discs just for chapter 1. I thought they were doing Hitman-style episodic (which nearly destroyed IOI it was so bad.) Instead it sounds like they're basically going to turn FFVII into an expansive franchise/universe instead of a simple game remake and make the world and events a lot bigger. Otherwise known as "We have absolutely no good ideas after the disasters of XIII and XV, lets just take what we know sells and keep making more of that game for the next 20 years."

@Anti-Matter the original VII was always pretty dark/gritty/serious. The tech limitations of the time made it seem "cute" to a degree, but it really wasn't cute at all. It was a Blade Runner-esque city of forced human experimentation, social decay, hopelessness, and abuse by an all powerful corporate-state. This is one case where the ultra real graphics and profanity, etc, actually do fit the original intended mood of the story/world. It's what it was always trying to represent. Few games have as dreary an atmosphere as VII. Midgar is depressing enough....then you get to Nibelheim.

IX OTOH is always a fun carefree frolic. VIII is somehow in between. X....everyone loves X, but it's mostly about a dude with daddy issues. Not quite the epic story FF is known for, even if a lost civilization is peripherally involved.

@Dezzy what is the right order to play XV then?

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Dezzy

NEStalgia wrote:

@Dezzy what is the right order to play XV then?

You'll need to write this down! Quite a few of these are obvious from what happens in the game, so it's not as insane as it looks, but it's worth making sure anyway.

1. Play A King's Tale (free download on PS4/Xbox)
2. Watch the Brotherhood anime (free on youtube)
3. Watch Kingsglaive.
4. Play Chapters 1-Chapter 7 of FFXV (until the point where Gladio leaves the party)
5. Play Episode Gladiolus DLC.
6. Play Chapters 8-Chapter 9 (until leaving Altissia)
7. (optional) Play Episode Ignis DLC. There are 2 different places you can play this DLC. This place is chronologically correct but contains a few spoilers for later in the game that some people prefer to avoid. I enjoy playing it most here though.
8. Play Chapters 10-Chapter 12 (until leaving Tenebrae)
9. Play Episode Prompto DLC
10. Play Chapter 13 with Noctis up until the point he rejoins the party. Upon rejoining the party, reload your last save and switch to the alternative route for Chapter 13 from save point. This contains important story info.
11. At the end of Chapter 13, watch the Ardyn prologue anime.
12. Play Episode Ardyn DLC.
13. (optional) Play Episode Ignis DLC if you didn't at the earlier point mentioned.
14. Play Comrades DLC until the closing credits (there's loads of extra content after them you can ignore for story reasons)
15. Play Chapter 14.
The End.

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