i don't think its coming out this year, likely 2017-2018,
however i'm not going buy one right away even if it did came out next year,
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i don't think its coming out this year, likely 2017-2018,
however i'm not going buy one right away even if it did came out next year,
Same here. I made a mistake getting a Wii U too early. I find it's best to wait at least two years before getting a console, just to see how it's playing out.
I wouldn't want a Sega Saturn... or in this more recent but less extreme case, a Wii U to happen to me again.
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I've yet to see an actual working concept of a so-called ''hybrid console'', because I cannot imagine a concept like that to work like people expect it to work.
Well there are products on the market but none of them work as people would want. There are portables on the market that are powerful. The most powerful is probably the NVidia Shield which is around about where the 360 is. Plus with that level of power two years ago they had to have active cooling on it. They could probably do it in a years time cheaper and with passive cooling. But it wouldn't be an impressive home console by any means. Not even marginally close.
Then there's the second idea people toss around. They think that a hybrid would be some kind of dock you'd place your portable console in and it'd "turn into" a powerful console. That's also a thing on the market. You can buy docks for your laptop that give you a desktop grade graphics card. The main problem is if you wanted to do that you'd have to have a portable with a CPU that doesn't bottleneck the GPU. Also the fact that you'd end up spending as much as you would have for two devices anyway but wouldn't be able to play the home console without the portable.
The only way I can see the NX being both is if the NX is not one devices but rather a hardware ecosystem. One where, not unlike Android or iOS, you develop for a "tier" of device and that product will automatically work on everything above that device. And perhaps in that scenario the Wii U is not being replaced by the NX but is rather the "first NX". Or not. I think if this is what they're doing more likely they'll launch with a portable and a micro console with the big "powerful" console being out a bit after.
That's exactly my problem with this concept. In order for it to work, both the console itself and the handheld need to be able to read games and require their own separate hardware. Which is effectively the same as bundling a home console and a handheld. You might as well sell them separately at that point to lower the price and give consumers a choice.
the NX will most likely be a replacement for the Wii U, the 3DS sales are good and steady plus theres lots of good content coming. The DS had a full 7 years of retail availability before the 3DS hit shelves and 6 years before the successor was shown. The 3DS Is in its fourth year with its fifth next when the NX details will be shown. The Wii U has been available for three years next year is its fourth with the NX details. the Wii details were given in E3 2005 FOUR years after the gamecube availability which has bad sales like the Wii U. meaning that NX is most likely a Wii U successor
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the NX will most likely be a replacement for the Wii U, the 3DS sales are good and steady plus theres lots of good content coming. The DS had a full 7 years of retail availability before the 3DS hit shelves and 6 years before the successor was shown. The 3DS Is in its fourth year with its fifth next when the NX details will be shown. The Wii U has been available for three years next year is its fourth with the NX details. the Wii details were given in E3 2005 FOUR years after the gamecube availability which has bad sales like the Wii U. meaning that NX is most likely a Wii U successor
ummm... I understand the belief that the NX is a home console. I get that it may be the case. But this line of reasoning is BS. Let me put down the actual lengths of time we're talking about here:
Gamecube -> Wii announcement: 3 years, 9 months
Gamecube -> Wii launch: 6 years, 2 months
DS -> 3DS announcement: 5 years, 7 months
DS -> 3DS launch: 7 years, 5 months
Wii -> Wii U announcement: 4 years, 6 months
Wii -> Wii U launch: 6 years
3DS -> E3 2016: 5 years, 3 months (Just as long as the DS. Fair enough)
3DS -> E3 2017: 6 years, 3 months (A year longer than the DS, this here is why I think we'll get a portable first)
Wii U -> E3 2016: 3 years, 7 months (would be as long as GC but a year shorter than Wii. Fair enough)
Wii U -> E3 2016: 4 years, 7 months (would be between the Wii and GC. Fair enough)
Wii U gets as long as the GC: 2018
Wii U gets as long as the Wii: 2018
3DS gets as long as the Wii: 2016
3DS gets as long as the DS: 2017
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Yeah, the problem with the idea that that "confirms" it though is that it doesn't really confirm it. He was asked a question specifically about how the Wii U is performing and responded by basically saying:
These console life-cycle these days is pretty long and we're still fairly early into the cycle
We've said we're working on a new home console and we'll say more about that "much later"
He could have said NX, he could have said they'll talk more about it next year. He didn't. Instead he referred to it simply as a home console and said they'll talk about it "much later". That doesn't rule out the NX being a home console but it doesn't confirm it either. And there's no way he wasn't going to talk about a home console given that's the question that was asked.
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The NX could release as soon as late 2016 and the reason why is because Nintendo considers it a 'third pillar' that won't necessarily replace the Wii U or the 3DS. Remember back before the original DS launched, Nintendo also called it a third pillar and did not consider it the next Gameboy. So they could release the NX next year and say it's separate from the Wii U & the 3DS because they consider NX as a third pillar.
the NX will most likely be a replacement for the Wii U, the 3DS sales are good and steady plus theres lots of good content coming. The DS had a full 7 years of retail availability before the 3DS hit shelves and 6 years before the successor was shown. The 3DS Is in its fourth year with its fifth next when the NX details will be shown. The Wii U has been available for three years next year is its fourth with the NX details. the Wii details were given in E3 2005 FOUR years after the gamecube availability which has bad sales like the Wii U. meaning that NX is most likely a Wii U successor
ummm... I understand the belief that the NX is a home console. I get that it may be the case. But this line of reasoning is BS. Let me put down the actual lengths of time we're talking about here:
Gamecube -> Wii announcement: 3 years, 9 months
Gamecube -> Wii launch: 6 years, 2 months
DS -> 3DS announcement: 5 years, 7 months
DS -> 3DS launch: 7 years, 5 months
Wii -> Wii U announcement: 4 years, 6 months
Wii -> Wii U launch: 6 years
3DS -> E3 2016: 5 years, 3 months (Just as long as the DS. Fair enough)
3DS -> E3 2017: 6 years, 3 months (A year longer than the DS, this here is why I think we'll get a portable first)
Wii U -> E3 2016: 3 years, 7 months (would be as long as GC but a year shorter than Wii. Fair enough)
Wii U -> E3 2016: 4 years, 7 months (would be between the Wii and GC. Fair enough)
Wii U gets as long as the GC: 2018
Wii U gets as long as the Wii: 2018
3DS gets as long as the Wii: 2016
3DS gets as long as the DS: 2017
Again you keep discounting the possibility that both will be announced at E3 2016. With Nintendo thinking about a unified architecture for console and handheld it only makes sense for both of them to be available around the same time (if not the same device).
the NX will most likely be a replacement for the Wii U, the 3DS sales are good and steady plus theres lots of good content coming. The DS had a full 7 years of retail availability before the 3DS hit shelves and 6 years before the successor was shown. The 3DS Is in its fourth year with its fifth next when the NX details will be shown. The Wii U has been available for three years next year is its fourth with the NX details. the Wii details were given in E3 2005 FOUR years after the gamecube availability which has bad sales like the Wii U. meaning that NX is most likely a Wii U successor
ummm... I understand the belief that the NX is a home console. I get that it may be the case. But this line of reasoning is BS. Let me put down the actual lengths of time we're talking about here:
Gamecube -> Wii announcement: 3 years, 9 months
Gamecube -> Wii launch: 6 years, 2 months
DS -> 3DS announcement: 5 years, 7 months
DS -> 3DS launch: 7 years, 5 months
Wii -> Wii U announcement: 4 years, 6 months
Wii -> Wii U launch: 6 years
3DS -> E3 2016: 5 years, 3 months (Just as long as the DS. Fair enough)
3DS -> E3 2017: 6 years, 3 months (A year longer than the DS, this here is why I think we'll get a portable first)
Wii U -> E3 2016: 3 years, 7 months (would be as long as GC but a year shorter than Wii. Fair enough)
Wii U -> E3 2016: 4 years, 7 months (would be between the Wii and GC. Fair enough)
Wii U gets as long as the GC: 2018
Wii U gets as long as the Wii: 2018
3DS gets as long as the Wii: 2016
3DS gets as long as the DS: 2017
Again you keep discounting the possibility that both will be announced at E3 2016. With Nintendo thinking about a unified architecture for console and handheld it only makes sense for both of them to be available around the same time (if not the same device).
the reason why i would doubt that is because it would be difficult to sell two pieces of hardware the same year rather than 1 one year and the other the next. People would have to decide which one to get first rather than the releases being separated enough where consumers can buy both around launch
People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...
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the NX will most likely be a replacement for the Wii U, the 3DS sales are good and steady plus theres lots of good content coming. The DS had a full 7 years of retail availability before the 3DS hit shelves and 6 years before the successor was shown. The 3DS Is in its fourth year with its fifth next when the NX details will be shown. The Wii U has been available for three years next year is its fourth with the NX details. the Wii details were given in E3 2005 FOUR years after the gamecube availability which has bad sales like the Wii U. meaning that NX is most likely a Wii U successor
ummm... I understand the belief that the NX is a home console. I get that it may be the case. But this line of reasoning is BS. Let me put down the actual lengths of time we're talking about here:
Gamecube -> Wii announcement: 3 years, 9 months
Gamecube -> Wii launch: 6 years, 2 months
DS -> 3DS announcement: 5 years, 7 months
DS -> 3DS launch: 7 years, 5 months
Wii -> Wii U announcement: 4 years, 6 months
Wii -> Wii U launch: 6 years
3DS -> E3 2016: 5 years, 3 months (Just as long as the DS. Fair enough)
3DS -> E3 2017: 6 years, 3 months (A year longer than the DS, this here is why I think we'll get a portable first)
Wii U -> E3 2016: 3 years, 7 months (would be as long as GC but a year shorter than Wii. Fair enough)
Wii U -> E3 2016: 4 years, 7 months (would be between the Wii and GC. Fair enough)
Wii U gets as long as the GC: 2018
Wii U gets as long as the Wii: 2018
3DS gets as long as the Wii: 2016
3DS gets as long as the DS: 2017
Again you keep discounting the possibility that both will be announced at E3 2016. With Nintendo thinking about a unified architecture for console and handheld it only makes sense for both of them to be available around the same time (if not the same device).
the reason why i would doubt that is because it would be difficult to sell two pieces of hardware the same year rather than 1 one year and the other the next. People would have to decide which one to get first rather than the releases being separated enough where consumers can buy both around launch
Either way though, they're going to lose hardware sales regardless because they're making it so that games can be playable on both which reduces the incentive to buy both. Separating the launches isn't really going to help.
the NX will most likely be a replacement for the Wii U, the 3DS sales are good and steady plus theres lots of good content coming. The DS had a full 7 years of retail availability before the 3DS hit shelves and 6 years before the successor was shown. The 3DS Is in its fourth year with its fifth next when the NX details will be shown. The Wii U has been available for three years next year is its fourth with the NX details. the Wii details were given in E3 2005 FOUR years after the gamecube availability which has bad sales like the Wii U. meaning that NX is most likely a Wii U successor
ummm... I understand the belief that the NX is a home console. I get that it may be the case. But this line of reasoning is BS. Let me put down the actual lengths of time we're talking about here:
Gamecube -> Wii announcement: 3 years, 9 months
Gamecube -> Wii launch: 6 years, 2 months
DS -> 3DS announcement: 5 years, 7 months
DS -> 3DS launch: 7 years, 5 months
Wii -> Wii U announcement: 4 years, 6 months
Wii -> Wii U launch: 6 years
3DS -> E3 2016: 5 years, 3 months (Just as long as the DS. Fair enough)
3DS -> E3 2017: 6 years, 3 months (A year longer than the DS, this here is why I think we'll get a portable first)
Wii U -> E3 2016: 3 years, 7 months (would be as long as GC but a year shorter than Wii. Fair enough)
Wii U -> E3 2016: 4 years, 7 months (would be between the Wii and GC. Fair enough)
Wii U gets as long as the GC: 2018
Wii U gets as long as the Wii: 2018
3DS gets as long as the Wii: 2016
3DS gets as long as the DS: 2017
Again you keep discounting the possibility that both will be announced at E3 2016. With Nintendo thinking about a unified architecture for console and handheld it only makes sense for both of them to be available around the same time (if not the same device).
the reason why i would doubt that is because it would be difficult to sell two pieces of hardware the same year rather than 1 one year and the other the next. People would have to decide which one to get first rather than the releases being separated enough where consumers can buy both around launch
Either way though, they're going to lose hardware sales regardless because they're making it so that games can be playable on both which reduces the incentive to buy both. Separating the launches isn't really going to help.
I doubt every game will work on both pieces of hardware, or else there would be no reason to have two pieces of hardware on the market. They are just hoping to make it easier for others to support both systems and to have certain games, most likely Virtual Console, to support the feature. We are already seeing the feature being used now but I think they want to expand that to VC.
People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...
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I doubt every game will work on both pieces of hardware, or else there would be no reason to have two pieces of hardware on the market. They are just hoping to make it easier for others to support both systems and to have certain games, most likely Virtual Console, to support the feature. We are already seeing the feature being used now but I think they want to expand that to VC.
Having two pieces of hardware to support is becoming more of a liability than an asset at this point. They have to split their resources between the two devices, and that contributes to the game drought we've been experiencing this generation. If they're just using it for VC and a handful of ports, it's not really going to help them much. But if they only have one lineup, they can get much more out of it because they don't have to waste development making one game for handheld and one game for console and can work on a completely different game.
I doubt every game will work on both pieces of hardware, or else there would be no reason to have two pieces of hardware on the market. They are just hoping to make it easier for others to support both systems and to have certain games, most likely Virtual Console, to support the feature. We are already seeing the feature being used now but I think they want to expand that to VC.
Having two pieces of hardware to support is becoming more of a liability than an asset at this point. They have to split their resources between the two devices, and that contributes to the game drought we've been experiencing this generation. If they're just using it for VC and a handful of ports, it's not really going to help them much. But if they only have one lineup, they can get much more out of it because they don't have to waste development making one game for handheld and one game for console and can work on a completely different game.
But each system still needs a few exclusive titles that gives people an incentive to double-dip, otherwise most people are just going to choose one over the other and you risk leaving one of the systems in the dust. Plus if every game was made for both platforms the home console probably wouldn't be used to its full potential as all games have to be catered to the handheld first, since it's basically guaranteed to be the weaker of the two.
I doubt every game will work on both pieces of hardware, or else there would be no reason to have two pieces of hardware on the market. They are just hoping to make it easier for others to support both systems and to have certain games, most likely Virtual Console, to support the feature. We are already seeing the feature being used now but I think they want to expand that to VC.
Having two pieces of hardware to support is becoming more of a liability than an asset at this point. They have to split their resources between the two devices, and that contributes to the game drought we've been experiencing this generation. If they're just using it for VC and a handful of ports, it's not really going to help them much. But if they only have one lineup, they can get much more out of it because they don't have to waste development making one game for handheld and one game for console and can work on a completely different game.
Then what is the point of the Home Console if the Handheld can play everything the Home Console can?
People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...
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What we know from Reggie and Tanabe:
-NX is an HD next gen console
-next year's E3 is about NX
-Nintendo is focusing E3 press on releases during the year the conference takes place
1+1+1= 3. The NX is a console, it's being shown at E3 next year, and it's launching in the same year.
What we know from Reggie and Tanabe:
-NX is an HD next gen console
-next year's E3 is about NX
-Nintendo is focusing E3 press on releases during the year the conference takes place
1+1+1= 3. The NX is a console, it's being shown at E3 next year, and it's launching in the same year.
I think I'd rather them show the NX in a presentation prior to E3 like Sony and Microsoft did with the PS4 and XB1. Then they could have E3 be another Digital Event focused on games, which is what E3 should be about.
What we know from Reggie and Tanabe:
-NX is an HD next gen console
-next year's E3 is about NX
-Nintendo is focusing E3 press on releases during the year the conference takes place
1+1+1= 3. The NX is a console, it's being shown at E3 next year, and it's launching in the same year.
I think I'd rather them show the NX in a presentation prior to E3 like Sony and Microsoft did with the PS4 and XB1. Then they could have E3 be another Digital Event focused on games, which is what E3 should be about.
Remember that when they started doing Directs/Digital Events they said that they would have a traditional press conference if they have new hardware to show off. And next E3 they do. So I think they'll just have a press conference to show what the NX can do and what the launch games are.
What we know from Reggie and Tanabe:
-NX is an HD next gen console
-next year's E3 is about NX
-Nintendo is focusing E3 press on releases during the year the conference takes place
1+1+1= 3. The NX is a console, it's being shown at E3 next year, and it's launching in the same year.
I think I'd rather them show the NX in a presentation prior to E3 like Sony and Microsoft did with the PS4 and XB1. Then they could have E3 be another Digital Event focused on games, which is what E3 should be about.
Remember that when they started doing Directs/Digital Events they said that they would have a traditional press conference if they have new hardware to show off. And next E3 they do. So I think they'll just have a press conference to show what the NX can do and what the launch games are.
I think next year we will still have the digital presentation, just to introduce the hardware and the year after that they may do a press conference, to show off the power and the 3rd Party partnerships they are making.
People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...
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What we know from Reggie and Tanabe:
-NX is an HD next gen console
-next year's E3 is about NX
-Nintendo is focusing E3 press on releases during the year the conference takes place
1+1+1= 3. The NX is a console, it's being shown at E3 next year, and it's launching in the same year.
I think I'd rather them show the NX in a presentation prior to E3 like Sony and Microsoft did with the PS4 and XB1. Then they could have E3 be another Digital Event focused on games, which is what E3 should be about.
Remember that when they started doing Directs/Digital Events they said that they would have a traditional press conference if they have new hardware to show off. And next E3 they do. So I think they'll just have a press conference to show what the NX can do and what the launch games are.
I think next year we will still have the digital presentation, just to introduce the hardware and the year after that they may do a press conference, to show off the power and the 3rd Party partnerships they are making.
No, that'd be completely backwards. If there's one year that they need a press conference, it's when they're unveiling new hardware. Not releasing, unveiling. That's when they need the attention and the grandiosity the most.
What we know from Reggie and Tanabe:
-NX is an HD next gen console
-next year's E3 is about NX
-Nintendo is focusing E3 press on releases during the year the conference takes place
1+1+1= 3. The NX is a console, it's being shown at E3 next year, and it's launching in the same year.
I think I'd rather them show the NX in a presentation prior to E3 like Sony and Microsoft did with the PS4 and XB1. Then they could have E3 be another Digital Event focused on games, which is what E3 should be about.
Remember that when they started doing Directs/Digital Events they said that they would have a traditional press conference if they have new hardware to show off. And next E3 they do. So I think they'll just have a press conference to show what the NX can do and what the launch games are.
I think next year we will still have the digital presentation, just to introduce the hardware and the year after that they may do a press conference, to show off the power and the 3rd Party partnerships they are making.
No, that'd be completely backwards. If there's one year that they need a press conference, it's when they're unveiling new hardware. Not releasing, unveiling. That's when they need the attention and the grandiosity the most.
I disagree. When releasing it is when they need the attention from the press. Unveiling it is when they need more attention from Developers. Have a Press Event when unveiling and a digital event before releasing would be backwards in my opinion. They need the press to be talking about it and getting their hands on it before the release. At the unveiling their won't be much software for the Press to experience and most things will be people guessing at how it could be used in Software. Unveiling could just be a digital event but releasing is when they will need a Press Event.
People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...
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