Topic: Nintendo Fan Stereotype

Am I the only one who finds the stereotype that Nintendo fans doesn't like third party untrue because there are many games from third party that I would like on the NX?

I have heard it here and other places on the internet and I think that stereotype can really hurt any future games on the NX.

I think it is less that "fans don't like 3rd Party games" and more that they prioritize Nintendo games. Nintendo has a game release for every big sales month, so when a 3rd Party releases a game during one of those months, they get over shadowed.

Except even when there are "droughts," Nintendo owners still don't buy 3rd party games.

The replies to my comment are going to be about how lazy third parties are.

Why would anyone outside of Nintendo want to work with a company described in this article? The Secret Developers: Wii U - the inside story

Do you have examples?

Do you have examples of 3rd party games that have sold well on the Wii U? There have been plenty of droughts for Nintendo fans to buy 3rd party games while they wait for the next Nintendo game.

It's not so much that Nintendo fans hate third part as much as Nintendo themselves make it a pain for third parties to make games for. Nintendo tries to many gimmicks like the gamepad which makes it a pain for third party companies to make games for. One of the reason so many third party games go to the Playstation and Xbox is because of the ease of porting games between the two systems.

The point is those 3rd Party games aren't releasing during those droughts. If 3rd Party games did sell during those times, those games were already considered failures and those companies have moved on. Are there any examples of 3rd parties releasing a game during a Nintendo "drought" and those games still not selling well without competition?

Those games not selling well months after they launch doesn't hold much weight for the argument, as most sales occur when a game launches.

The GamePad is not that big of an obstacle. Retro Studios even turns off the GamePad Screen during Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, other companies could do the same. The big obstacles are the power and install base. With a big enough install base 3rd Parties would still make games for it (example: Wii) and with enough power 3rd Parties would still port to it (example: PS3)

Now this is just silly. It doesn't really matter when a game releases for this. What is your definition of a "releases window" anyway? You know what, doesn't matter. In fact, the perfect time to buy a 3rd party game is during one of the Wii U droughts because they have been marked down and its not like there is a Nintendo game to play instead. You know what does "hold weight," games that have released on the Wii U but did not sell any where near what they sold on other consoles.

Let me ask, why? Why do games not sell as well on Wii U as other consoles? Is it because Nintendo fans shun 3rd party games? Or is it because Nintendo fans will buy Nintendo games over 3rd party games? Could a 3rd party game do well if released during a Nintendo drought?

There are a lot of questions that need to be addressed as to why these games aren't selling. The fact these games aren't selling isn't enough information to help fix the problem.

the fact that alot of us were excited for bayo 2 should be enough to show at least Japanese third party that we want third party games.

I thought alot of the third party games sold bad on the Wii U because they were lazy ports, didnt have all the features the other systems had or came out weeks to months after their launch on other systems(watch dogs) so why would we even want to buy the game. I am so sure that is for example, if FINAL FANTASY Type-0 HD came out on the wii u I think it would sell(maybe not as well as the other systems but enough to matter)

About that article...
http://www.destructoid.com/experienced-devs-counter-annonymou...
And I'm more than willing to trust the people counter the article who have stated who they are, than someone who wouldn't even give his name, or the name of what game he was working on. Also, why don't you give some examples of the games that were released on Wii U yet weren't as successful as other systems. I'm 100% positive there are some, but I just want to look into them real quick.

Pretty much this. And there's plenty of missed opportunities, too. Games like Final Fantasy Type-O and even Final Fantasy X HD collection might actually sell great on Wii U. But did Square Enix even try to build a Final Fantasy fanbase on Wii U? No. Heck, Kingdom Hearts 3 would sell amazingly more Wii U... even more than Xbox One.

Well that's an easy explanation. Why would anyone want to burn bridges with Nintendo by publicly shaming them? Even if you had bad experiences with them, you wouldn't want to be the one to show yourself and lambaste a company. Especially when you work for a publisher or developer that clearly wants to work with Nintendo. Obviously if you're gonna sing praises to a company you develop for, you'd make yourself known. Simple as that. I really wouldn't use that as a barometer of trust.

The issue with an anonymous source is that they can be basically anyone. As any person can say whatever they want on a subject or matter but then refuse to state their own name by saying they want to remain anonymous. Why place any significance on a source, if that source refuses to back up their claim with their name? At that point they lack reliability or authority, so it's usually always best to take them with a big grain of salt.

I'd say it's a unique case where Nintendo's standards and development customs are drastically different from what many 3rd-party developers do which makes Nintendo fans prioritize 1st-party content.
Or to put it more simply: Nintendo games tend to stand out strongly, which lessens the impact 3rd-party games have on Nintendo platforms. You can't get Nintendo games on any other platform, so the incentive to get them is somewhat stronger. I dare say it's kinda related to brand awareness, but it's also that people tend to know what to expect of upcoming Nintendo games, making it easier to determine whether a person will like that game or not - it's not universal, but it's common.

I just don't like crappy ports. However I speak with my wallet. So I apply that mentality to every system I own. My PC is gaming grade (and I'm buying a shiny new GPU for Fallout 4) I've pretty much abandoned Ubisoft at this time because of how shoddy the PC/WiiU versions of their games are. I'm sure there are some that would ping me as a Nintendo fangirl (and in some ways I am) but I'm a gamer. I buy everything I play everything. Which means that I don't waste money on bad games or bad ports because my current backlog could last me until I'm 80. I'm not going to waste money on something just to fill out the third party purchasing quota, but I will buy ANYTHING I find worth my time and money. The only genre I turn my nose up at is FPS but I still play those because my brother is a huge COD fan and since he humors me with fighting games, then I humor his FPS addiction.

I really think the biggest issue isn't that Nintendo gamers don't buy third party it is third party often does poor support (delays, missing features/dlc, poor port) AND third party variety has diminished. Many B and C rank franchises/studios have fallen by the wayside...especially in the console space. So games that really padded libraries and offered more variety don't exist anymore.

Look at 3ds...third party games thrive there and there is room for more genre representation. Those games get bought up just fine.

That's fair enough, but usually in those situations, the people are verified one way or another. Either to the journalists reporting the claims or similar. Grains of salt are necessary, but it's also not the best idea to just disregard it.

The only third party games that I buy from Nintendo are Wayforward, SEGA and Capcom (Don't know if Level-5 is thrid party or not but if it is, then that counts too.)

I feel that developers are not able to understand the difference between the PS3 and the Wii U. Both had infrastructures that caused them to make it hard to make games on but developers later coped with the PS3 and were able to make games for it. The problem here is that Wii U was just too early to release it and should have had some supervision to third parties before releasing games for it.

To say that third party games are bad on a Nintendo system is just not right to say because there are some great games made by third parties from Nintendo like Scribblenauts and Sonic Colors. The problem with third party games is that since these companies want to make more money, they seek out to port their already made games to other platforms like Steam destroying the entire value of buying them on Nintendo products. I just bought Shantae and the Pirate's Curse last year and now I realized that game is ported to Steam which frustrates me a LOT because I thought that it was to be an exclusive like Contra 4 or the original Shantae. I'm glad that the next Shantae game is on Steam because I can buy it there and waste my cash on other games that are exclusive to Nintendo products only. This alone is the reason why many just don't want third party games on Nintendo in general. The point of buying a third party game from a Nintendo console doesn't mean a thing when its multiplat. Because chances are that developers won't do anything so creative on Nintendo consoles so we might just get lazy ports instead. Call of Duty 4 on DS isn't nearly as good as the other versions because of the lack of online which is something Nintendo DS HAD at the time. While its true that third parties aren't always lazy, most of the time, they really....really...are.

Nailed it. Especially with the poor support. Why should I give a crap about the games third party developers make on Wii U when they obviously don't give a crap?