Topic: Logical 3rd party games Nintendo should get for NX

Basically, let's list games that would make sense for Nintendo to get. In other words, games that have a good potential to do well on the console (or whatever NX is, I just assume it's a console until proven otherwise). As in, not assume that magically because they advertised to non-Nintendo audiences for close to a decade, Assassin's Creed will automatically do great for a new audience because reasons.

-First of all, Beyond Good and Evil since even IF that's not definitively happening already, I'd take advantage of the rumors (I'm admittedly biased as I love the original game, but if anyone can make this type of game succeed, it'd probably be Nintendo).

-Likewise because of it also being a Zelda-like game, plus the previous game's bizarre, slowly rising sales on Wii U, a Nintendo funded Darksiders 3.

-Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare 2 needs to happen. It has the name recognition of one of the biggest iOS titles and would fit perfectly in a post-Splatoon Nintendo.

-Mass Effect: Andromeda, this time without a trilogy collection to sabotage it!

-Anything Capcom puts out (assuming they still want to make new console games other than a rushed Street Fighter V), and obviously a Monster Hunter 4 Enhanced Ultra Edition thing.

-A Dark Souls collection

-Battleborn. Gearbox is gonna be desperate based on early figures I've seen for this game.

-The rumored Final Fantasy/Dragon Quest ports, of course.

-Literally every good indie game in the past year that was even remotely inspired by old NES/SNES games

Overwatch:
It has Nintendo written all over it. It's an "arcade style" team based shooter with colourful characters and it will sit well alongside games like Splatoon. It's also a Blizzard game so I think it's fair to assume it's going be supported for a while. Unlike other games just out which will be old news by the time the NX launches. They could also get people pretty hyped if they included some Nintendo themed skins. Bowser Reinhardt, DK Winston, Samus Pharah, Link Gengi, Fox DVa, Pit Mercy. It just fits so well.

Whatever Rockstar is working on:
Everything Rockstar does sells well. I don't think it's a question of whether or not the NX can get a new audience of gamers or not. I think whatever Rockstar does will sell well with any audience. And on the other side of the equation there will be a whole lot of people who will not buy NX if it lacks that title. Whatever it ends up being.

Tomb Raider:
If and when there's another game in the series the NX shouldn't miss out on it. Because Tomb Raider is basically the third-party answer to Zelda. It also plays on people's love of the series from previous console generations which is also a strength of Nintendo's.

Anything Final Fantasy
Speaking of Square Enix. I don't think it sells anywhere near well as it used to but if there's an audience for nostalgia? It's on Nintendo's platforms. Especially nostalgia for Japanese content and RPGs. Just look at how well Fire Emblem and Xenoblade have done. There's no reason to believe it wouldn't find a home on NX.... even if I'm personally not that interested

Call of Duty:
I don't like CoD and a lot of Nintendo fanboys don't like CoD. But CoD does sell well and without games like CoD it's going to be hard to convince people that the NX is a "serious" gaming platform. Without games like that people are going to look at the NX as yet another "secondary" console from Nintendo.

It's genuinely hard to tell which 3rd party games would do well on a Nintendo system these days. When it comes to the portables RPGs typically do very well, but on the Wii and Wii U they were certainly less popular. Persona 5 would make a lot of sense for the NX if it weren't releasing this year judging by the performance of previous entries and the large fanbase. Otherwise, it doesn't matter how "big" a game is because the average consumer will more than likely buy those games for other systems even if they own an NX. There will be very few players who own just an NX who want to play 3rd party games. Does that mean the NX should be ignored? Not necessarily, but the potential sales just aren't there unless the NXs' features are unique and enticing enough to make a real difference. Personally, I want every 3rd party game to be on the system. The fact of the matter is that the right consumer base needs to be there for those games. It can happen, but right now it is hard to see how exactly it could happen. Whether or not the NX finds that audience however, ports CANNOT be late, because the vast majority of late ports WILL be irrelevant to most players.

First and foremost I think third parties should be releasing new games to the NX (not anything, for example, that is currently out on the PS4 and XBO in May 2016), as well as a couple of exclusives (probably dreaming with the latter). The problem with the Wii U was that it was late to the party with many third party titles, which were often also poorly optimised for the system. As a result, the Wii U versions would sell very poorly. I think companies would do best to test the waters by codeveloping some of their 2017 games for NX, and then later possibly porting some of the earlier hits of this generation.

In terms of series? I think Nintendo getting support from Square-Enix would be excellent, even if it's just their Japanese-developed titles.

For Nintendo to really make the best use in convincing anyone to not only buy an NX but do so because of its third party support, in addition to the great first party, they need to open that huge DuckTales like bank vault and spend some money on getting exclusives and/or exclusive DLC to as many games as possible. Only then will people take notice.

@skywake I think Overwatch will be "old news" on consoles by the time NX comes out. Remember how quickly TF2 died on Xbox 360, I imagine the same will happen here unless cross gen multiplayer is achieved with PC.

I've already posted my wishlist elsewhere but...

ChoroQ HG (but with emphasis on driving and no kart racing items; it's challenging enough to focus on the driving without making that near to impossible with bad kart-combat and twitchy steering / progressive oversteer to compensate for both lack of gear/transmission control, as well as for the player's attention being on items rather than on pure driving skill)...

Also,...basically ChoroQ CarPG (like ChoroQ works (I think? I didn't play it because it didn't get an English language release) I imported one but all I can do is look at the box and drive around town) :0/

Having said that 1st party Nintendo CarPG would be beyond cool...Toad's Turismo Quest, or some such thing (Toad's Turismo Adventure Car Quest) Toad's CarPG Adventure (because people like to choose toad for Mariokart?)...with special Amiibo for special car-body types or ChoroQ amiibo you can purchase for car body type (although that might get a bit exploitative) :0/

Dragons Lair 3D adventure similar to Luigi's Haunted Mansion but Dragon's Lair, with Dirk the Daring inventively and unexpectedly (or sometimes not so unexpectedly) getting a pie in the face at every turn.

Pandora's Tower (although I think that's more or less Nintendo already?)

A Rainbow Studios made Excite Bike.

Klonoa

Ape Escape.

Fully open-world lego-city HD remake and/or more Lego City.

Capcom Vs Groo the Wanderer and friends.

Phantom Crash / Steel Lancer sequel (Mech-battle lite (i.e. easier than From Software's Armored Core))

Armored Core

Startopia Sequel

Enslaved sequel.

Beyond Good and Evil sequel.

Edit: Capcom Vs. Epic (Epic comics), with characters such as all the characters from Sergio Aragones' Groo the wanderer (and unlockable Capcom characters styalised by Sergio Aragones) and maybe Sarigar and Jugger Grimrod, Tamara and Neebo Brodix (from Alien Legion), etc... Epic also put out, Electra Assassin and Otomo's Akira, so...maybe...?

Another for the "would never happen but one can dream" list... Capcom V.s 2000AD

Remember Me sequel.

@Grumblevolcano well, Overwatch is supposed to get continued content for a while. Something that never happened with Team Fortress 2 on 360. I could also see Overwatch going F2P at some point which NX could also support possibly. I don't think Blizzard games often become "old news." Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 are still talked about, not to mention WoW

I think the issue here, being an online game, is that it relies on a solid user base. That user base is already being established now on PC, XBO and PS4. If Overwatch eventually comes out on NX in 2017, people will be probably more inclined towards the versions that already have more users. I can only see people going for it on the NX if its their only option (if they don't have PS4, XBO or a gaming PC), or if the NX has some clear advantage over the other versions.

@DefHalan As I said, "old news" on consoles. The PC community is what makes older Blizzard games still talked about. The only way Overwatch won't be old news on consoles is if cross platform (I meant cross platform, not cross gen in my last post) multiplayer with PC happens.

Unless cross-platform multiplayer gets added between then. People could then go to the system of their choice.

I definitely do not see Dark Souls as something that would fit in a Nintendo library. Pretty much anything from Square Enix would make sense. And weird as it is to say, Borderlands would also look right at home, I feel. By extension, battleborn and Overwatch.

@Operative I agree with Borderlands too. That series has a unique taste of fun lol

If the hardware could run it I could see Dark Souls on a Nintendo Platform: Take a look at Pandora's Tower for the Wii. stylistically it's like Dark Souls meets Ico.

Which is where exclusives skins, maps and so on could come in. Nintendo has been historically pretty precious about where and how their IP is used in other games. Particularly violent games. But based on what they've been doing recently I think they're starting to relax no that a bit. If there was ever a shooter that they may be willing to do something like that with? It'd be something like Overwatch.

I also don't think that cross-play is going to help them much. It's a nice theory but if the PC audience is the only one sticking with it? It's a bad idea. We don't know what the NX's controller is yet but I'm willing to bet that whatever it is KB+Mouse is going to slaughter it.

Cross play between console and pc gamers are never a good idea. Either you have to give console gamers some handicap or the pc players will run circles around them. And if you give one side handicap, players will complain. It is a lose-lose situation.

@DarthNocturnal
In PC games when there is an option it's an option. You can choose to play with a controller and get slaughtered by your opponents. Or if you're particularly good with a controller (or want to play on a TV ect) then you can go that route. GTA for example I use a controller for on PC because it's a game that's as much about driving as it is shooting.

The problem with making it PCs vs Consoles is that console gamers don't have that option. Which is probably fine for a game like Rocket League but for shooters? Not so much. Especially competitive multiplayer shooters.

I still believe to this day that Nintendo really doesn't need third party, but since that would ruin the whole point of the thread, I'm gonna say the most sensible ones.

1. Sonic: Makes sense since Nintendo is known to maintain the platform genre.

2. Need For Speed : Since Nintendo probably has forgotten that they have F-Zero, Need For Speed suits fine. Why not? Its a good IP.

3. Dragon Quest: I didn't like the first game much but assuming that everyone sees value in it, then yeah it makes most sense. It sells better on Nintendo hardware anyway.

4. Guitar Hero: It works for Nintendo the most.

5. Final Fantasy: This is probably the impossible one seeing as how SE can't seem to make a legit one for the 3DS but if Nintendo wants RPGs on the NX, this is the best case scenario.

But really, they don't need third parties. The only reason the Wii U needed one was because Nintendo didn't make a lot of games like they did for the 3DS and the fact that the branding itself was terrible that no kid even knew the system existed.

@Socar I disagree about Guitar Hero, that franchise is pretty much dead. Over half the FreeStyleGames staff got fired due to poor sales of Live and the quantity of content has reduced significantly.

I'd love to see third parties make more exclusives catered towards Nintendo's console (maybe not the best example, but e.g. Ubisoft's efforts with Red Steel for Wii and ZombiU for Wii U, or maybe Platinum's efforts on the Wii U), even if they're only timed exclusives.

Even moreso, I'd like to see more games like Hyrule Warriors and Pokken, which use Nintendo's IP in new ways. Why not have a Capcom vs. Nintendo series?