Topic: Confidence in Third Party Effort?

With the reveals of Skyrim and Fifa 18 for the Switch, we've seen (in my opinion) a surprising amount of effort pertaining to the quality of these versions. With EA we've gotten most of the feautures found in other versions outside of "The Journey" and Frostbite engine. Which certainly doesn't give the Switch version a rating of 10/10, but it doesn't deserve something as low as 6 either. Bethesda is even stronger when it comes to the Switch. Providing the remastered version of Skyrim including: All DLC, Amiibo support, and motion controls. Which is profound effort on their part. It is worth noting both games have been associated with the Switch since its reveal. And that certainly means they have had a large amount of time to optimize their games for the console. But with that being said, do these reveals provide reason to believe devs are trying to make their games worth it for Nintendo users?

We're seeing a decent effort now, especially from Bethesda, but if those games don't sell, I wouldn't expect much more from those companies. I think that goes for basically all western AAA companies.

I'm just glad we haven't been handed seriously gimped versions of third party AAA games so far.

I think yes, especially considering that they are absolutely not alone. Think about SMT, DQ, NBA 2K, Disgaea for Japanese developers, Sonic Forces, Xenoverse 2, LEGO games, the new Tales and all indies. I think that starting support is there and if sells are good we will keep getting more things. As of now i'm good, hoping for more obviously

Sure, but we're talking about two games revealed so far during the entirety of E3. I appreciate Bethesda's effort, but at the same time, they're not bringing any of their new games to the Switch, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. It almost feels like some sort of checklist, every dev needs one Switch game so they can say that they haven't completely disregarded the system.

@KirbyTheVampire Non gimped versions of the games are definitely a welcome sign. Hopefully it continues as we move into other franchises.

@FGPackers Fair points, we'll see just how these games sales.

@Octane To be fair 2k18, FIFA 18, and Xenoverse 2 can all be considered "new" games. Granted the former games are very safe options when it comes to a new console.

@subpopz So you're saying fake enthusiasm? I believe the first major Third Party game released will be swimming in cash. Not only because of the want for continual support, but when people turn to what they are familiar with. And people are familiar with the name brand games, over something from NeoGeo.

@subpopz No I mean on the part of third party Devs. Hyping up the Switch in hope of sales, and when they don't come through all of the sudden aren't so amazed by the Switch.

It's good, but we need to be realistic. Most third-party games will need to be drastically dialed down or even made "special" to have a Switch version. But even early on, seems more than a few of the big AAA's are willing to do that, so that's a good sign. Will just have to wait and see if the Switch continues to sell and make itself enticing.

I'm not expecting a ton of the really big games, but at the same time, with graphical increases being increasingly irrelevant and nearly everything being on PC where you make major changes in settings, I don't see why a good chunk of popular games can't come to Switch.

Even moreso when you remember most popular games this year are Japanese or indie. This is a good time for Nintendo to do this.

Because we don't need games like The Witcher, Assassin's Creed or Destiny. If you buy Nintendo you do it for Zelda, Mario, Xenoblade, Splatoon. If you buy Nintendo searching for third party AAA you're completely doing it wrong. What we need is good games from third parties to increase library. Some examples? MH, DQ, Xenoverse (even with Fighters Z on the way for other consoles), FIFA & 2K (even if they're not the other consoles versions). We need things like this to partner with all Nintendo IPs, and it will be good

That's the problem I think. Everyone having this mindset. It doesn't have to be this way, and I'm sure some folks would be happy if they could just own a Nintendo console and play the occasional third party game. I know, I know, Switch is handheld too and not that powerful, but I've heard this argument for well over a decade, and it just doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't have to be a choice...

Or not, as the case actually is.

Now we are not so far off on power, sales will see most if not all come. Anyone that thinks an dev uses anything more than cost vs return to decide where to put a game they are very mistaken.

Of course but...

That's an implied point i did not say (there was really the need to?). Nintendo made an hardware choice that does not help having those titles. Maybe third parties are lazy to try, or maybe they just look at money they can get without caring for customers. You know, after all it is a business. They ONLY look at money, and what Capcom did last night is an easy example with that casual western MH.

I did not say this. I did not say it HAS to be. I just said that average Nintendo customer prefer Zelda over Horizon for example (and that's quite understandable). Because on a Nintendo platform the main IPs are which Nintendo does. If others come to increase library it's better. But if you don't search Nintendo IPs, you don't get Nintendo hardware

I think the Switch versions of Skyrim and FIFA 18 received enough care from their own developers for Nintendo gamers to care as well. I see polished and fine-tuned quality titles that anyone into the genre would be happy with. Bethesda surely won't mess up their first Nintendo title, and EA seems like putting some effort in the Switch FIFA. I just hope they don't stop there.

No, no, no ... most Nintendo fans don't have a choice. If you are a gamer, you are interested in Horizon. Don't be disingenuous. Nintendo's console would be lucky to have a game like Horizon. And lots of people who buy Nintendo consoles would love to have more options. Since when was more variety ever a bad thing?

You're acting like Nintendo fans are too good for 3rd party games. Nintendo fans buy Nintendo consoles for the Nintendo games, but that doesn't mean no Nintendo fan wants to play Call of Duty or the new Monster Hunter game or Destiny.

You can lie to yourself and say "we didn't want that game anyways," but not only is that a lie (everyone wants new games/more games), it's actually bad for Nintendo to be skipped over. Don't for a second believe otherwise. The fact that the Switch hasn't gotten a single new 3rd party title since launch speaks volumes for the future of this machine.

@Octane
I agree with this. I don't have a PS4/Xone basically due to time constraints (already have a big backlog in my 3DS and Wii U), but that doesn't mean I wouldn't like to play the multiplats released for those platforms. I favor Nintendo games over others, but I would like to have all posible games, not just Nintendo's first party.

Now when the hell i did say that Nintendo gamers take ONLY Nintendo games? I said PREFER. Do you know what it means? PREFER!!! Why the hell if i say something bad against your precious 400/500$ PS4/PS4 Pro someone has always to come here and turn it on convenience? I'm a Nintendo gamer and i'm interested in third parties, but if third parties don't bring games on Nintendo systems i don't take Sony or Microsoft because they want only my money. I don't take PS4 because Horizon. As i don't take Nintendo because Zelda. I take Nintendo because Zelda, Mario, Splatoon, Xenoblade, Metroid (Other M too, yes!), Star Fox (Zero too, yes!) and all other stuff. If more come, the better.

I disagree that most gamers are interested in Horizon. Even when the Ps4 is long forgotten, I doubt even 1/3 of Ps4 owners will have played Horizon.

Now, more gamers would prefer to play Horizon than most games this year, of course. But nearly every game on every console, no matter how popular, doesn't get even close to a majority of people to ever play it.

Quoted for humor.

For me I have a Wii U and a PS4 and soon a Switch. This E3 showed that nintendo tried to get third party support. And for nintendo to even get any is a god sent. We all have to agree that third party on the Wii U was really bad and the wii before it was just a cash grab box. It is understandable why third party companies would not feel safe putting money into games for the Switch. Companies main purpose is to make money(every company...that goes for nintendo too)

However judging right now...I think we will see bigger third party support come to the Switch because so far the Switch has been a success. I feel like soon the Switch could be getting exclusives from companies like Square that normally put their exclusives on the PS4.

I get the impression most 3rd party devs were waiting to see how well the switch sold - I am sure now its selling bucket loads there will be more support over time but the publishers will have to get resources in place to ramp up development. Remember when the switch was released it was an unknown and compared a lot to the WiiU which was not a success.