Topic: Unpopular Gaming Opinions

So I've been watching chuggaaconroy's LP for Super Mario Galaxy 2, and I've gotta be honest, I don't think SMG2 gets anywhere close to the heights of 1.

While the level design may be technically better in a vacuum (or maybe it's not, I don't know), Galaxy 1 tries so much harder to make each destination a coherent universe. Galaxy 2 always just feels like it doesn't care much about theming, it just wants to be a fun obstacle course. I far prefer the former.

Hell, I don't think even Odyssey balances good design and good theming as well as Galaxy does. Odyssey has a lot of missions and moons that are too short, or just aren't interesting at all.

My favorite part of the coherent universe of Super Mario Galaxy is when I get a magic star from a comet that makes purple coins appear in a convenient area to collect them. Unless I die because a timer ran out that is not an in-universe timer.

@kkslider5552000

I'm not saying it feels totally real. Of course there are gamey mechanics, I'm not saying there shouldn't be. I just like that Galaxy's levels often feel like they are more than just a string of objects designed for my platforming pleasure.

It seems there is a certain kind of tendency for some fans when discussing opinions on recent Nintendo efforts. I’ve criticized aspects of Mario Odyssey and BOTW, but overall I’m willing to weather some of rough patches because I find the innovations really worth it.

It seems like some of these unpopular opinions come down to fans wanting Nintendo to release another Mario 3D World or Ocarina of Time. 10 years from now there will be people waxing nostalgic saying they want another Odyssey or BOTW, so this cycle will continue indefinitely.

I guess I’m getting at a feeling where I’m willing to accept a certain amount of inconsistency and imperfection when it comes to modern game design. Odyssey is far less of a balanced and challenging experience compared to Mario 64, but it was absolutely the right move on Nintendo’s part to keep the series fresh.

Nintendo should by all means drop older games in their franchises on the Eshop for purchase, but I’m not interested in playing a Galaxy 3 or a linear 3D Zelda game. They are totally making the right move by not doing that.

Also not interested in another Mario Kart until next gen, unless they have an interesting idea other than making the graphics slightly better.

I Don't like the soccer vibes from Pokemon Sword / Shield actually (The Gym challenger uniform was clearly looed like soccer uniform). It just disturbing me as an Anti-Mainstream dude that never and will never like soccer in any form. Despite i still enjoy the Pokemon games, but the soccer references still left me very sour taste in my impression. 😒
Just wish soccer was never exist and nobody even thought kicking the ball was a good idea.

@Anti-Matter Why do you wish soccer would not exist? I understand not liking football but wishing that it would not exist goes a bit far don’t you think?

Also the Switch is a mainstream product so would that mean you are not a “anti-mainstream” guy after all? 😉

@KoekiieWoekiie
Despite of popularity of Nintendo Switch, but here in Indonesia PlayStation machines still the most popular than Nintendo machines.

Switch is still like Anti-Mainstream product for me because here in the world , a lot peoples still use Smartphones for gaming as Mainstream lifestyle by 99 %. Only dedicated gamer will take out Switch in the public as something non mainstream to do. Even my partners (especially male teachers in my school) never ever think about Nintendo gaming. They just only thinking about smartphone games, indicating they are Mainstream audiences. But i am the only teacher who play Nintendo games despite almost nobody in the school (including the students) play Nintendo games. Nintendo is not so popular things in Indonesia, don't even talk about Xbox (Completely DEAD things in Indonesia).

@Anti-Matter That’s interesting. I imagine the idea of owning a game console may be sort of new thing in Indonesia. I noticed in Malaysia and Singapore a lot of game stores and merchandise for consoles being sold in the malls. I’m not sure how big of a share consoles have in Indonesia though.

@NotTelevision
Indonesian peoples adore PlayStation too much. Even they keep jailbroken the machines just only for playing FIFA, FIFA, and FIFA (Also that rated 18+ criminal games that has been misused / modded to other popular characters and sold for kids). Even most of the "black market" game stores in Indonesia keep offering the jailbreak and copying pirated games onto PlayStation machines (PS2, PS3 & PS4). The machines are keep being reconditioned, sold again in jailbroken condition over and over again. Sorry if i have to tell, that's the cringiest and the most disgusting things for gaming in Indonesia.

Yeah, i hate my country Indonesia in term of gaming like that. 😔

@Anti-Matter Haha. Well... I think adolescent boys in particular have a tendency to gravitate towards games with edgier content because it has a more “visceral” appeal. I remember being made fun of in middle school because I was the kid with the N64 and not the PS2. All of a sudden when Goldeneye came out, everyone wanted one though because they realized that N64 had some really good shooting games. I love the PS2 as well and bought one later because of its vast game library.

I don’t think it’s right to pigeonhole the PlayStation as the “mature” game console, because all consoles have their share of violent action games.

I’m honestly just happy to hear of people picking up and enjoying traditional console games at this point. A lot of the Asian market like you are saying, has been taken over by mobile live service MOBAs and online shooters that look like they came off an assembly line. Nights are spent grinding for experience points and exploring bland, unimaginative worlds. Everyone and their brother is playing games, but a lot of the time it’s that sort of stuff.

@NotTelevision
In my family and family relatives, only me the only one who still pursuing dedicated video gaming hobby with actual physical games while my siblings, my mother, my cousins and my family relatives DO NOT Even play console / handheld video games. Used to be we played console games (PS1, PS2 & SNES at that time) but as we grew up, my siblings moved to MOBA / MMO PC games / smartphone games. I still keep persistent with my gaming hobby even they felt weird with my hobby as they considered gaming hobby like me = wasting money hobby because i have to spend a lot of money for original games while they can download free-2-play smart phone games and thought purchasing video games with real money = something stupid to do.
I hate my family , all my relatives and the world because of stupid smartphone / MMO / MOBA games with micro transaction or lootboxes. 😒
This part of universe that should be removed from their existence and replaced by a dedicated gaming mindset instead of overusing smartphone for gaming.

@Anti-Matter "I hate my family , all my relatives and the world because of stupid smartphone / MMO / MOBA games with micro transaction or lootboxes. 😒"

You need therapy. Seriously.

@Zuljaras that can't possibly be a direct quote, right?!

@redd214 just look above my post. I was shocked.
I know he has issues but this is too much.

@Zuljaras have him ignored but yeah that is quite an extreme way of thinking, moreso than usual.

@Galenmereth And again if there is no demand there will be no supply.

People willingly give money to those companies. If people are smart they will not give money to such stupid practices.

I vote with my wallet. If I don't like something I don't buy it. I don't mind micro transactions and such because they do not affect me at all. I don't see that one day ALL games will have mictro transations.

Either way he is way too extreme. In a way I understand why he say such things but it is too extreme and ugly now. I was interested in his condition and watched videos of people explaining how they live with it.

@Zuljaras Problem is that they really use some sort of underhanded method to make people hooked to such things If you never watched it, this video really summed up how the devs really think...

It's hard to completely blame the player when the developers are intentionally using certain hooks and lines.

Of course, some gacha isn't too bad- I will continue to say that Dragalia Lost is one example where it's not too bad if you are just casual, and Another Eden is pretty excellent overall. But overall a lot of mobile games are made to prey on people.

@darkfenrir Prey yes but only on the weak. They make money on the weak just like cigarettes. They just need to put some regulations on the Micro transactions and force them to put 12981298109 warnings before buying.

Why some people never fall prey to such practices? If they get their money just like casinos do why even bother. I say let them waste their money.

potentially unpopular opinion/observation: difficulty options are not only a cop-out 99% of the time because they are predominantly just number alterations (enemies now do 2x damage and take twice as long to kill! yay!), but also because the entire area of games that are multiplayer-only are entirely predicated on individual skill. people always say stuff like "sekiro is too difficult" as a seemingly valid point of criticism, yet seldom acknowledge that if your opponent in street fighter is better than you, you don't get to play the game until you grind out for hours on end until you become stronger.

why is this idea of player ability grind frowned upon offline but not online? at least offline, you are learning AI patterns. online, you are learning the constantly evolving and adapting psychology of a human opponent. a new player can't "learn" how to beat a high level player; they have to grind out against players of their skill level and slowly ascend the ranks because said high level player has already garnered the ability to beat 90% of players ranked below him, consistently. a new player can (and sometimes inadvertently will, as was my case with a few bosses in hollow knight, botw, and other action adventure titles) figure out a high level enemy in a single player game given the game has provided them enough tools to do the job as it's a matter of learning predetermined and react-able patterns.

emergent difficulty doesn't seem to be something that exists in a fully fleshed out way with current technology, so no matter how high or low you push the difficulty, it'll ultimately still be completable by pretty much anyone who invests the time so long as it doesn't break design rules without good reason (moves humans cant react to that arent telegraphed, areas you cant discover without getting super lucky due to next-to-no design indication they exist anywhere, etc).

as for the disability argument, games should indeed be designed in such a way that those with disabilities can play them, but it's already universally acknowledged there are limits to this. we don't give those with certain mental impairments autoaim in online shooters. there've been a few fighting game players who play blind and rely on sound cues. you need to make some kind of compromise at some point if you ever want to create a singular and complete vision. while it's nice we have messages like "this is the intended difficulty", i'd much prefer if there was no choice in the matter as it just feels like wasted resources on lesser experiences.

@Anti-Matter Will have to agree with the other commenters.
I want to say this in the nicest way possible.
I think you should talk to someone and get professional help, be it counselling.

Your family are there when you need them. Don’t hate them because of video games. Don’t hate people when they like different games to you or different things.
Video games are a hobby. Family is life.
Have a great day