Topic: All this 3DS/Nintendo bashing reminds me of something...

Remember when the PS3 had a poor first year? Gabe Newel from Valve called the PS3 a disaster and said that Sony should start over. Analysts were saying the PS3 was severely overpriced (which it was). Multiple 3rd-party companies were complaining about how the PS3 was much more difficult to program for than the Xbox 360. Blah blah blah.

Fast forward to today, the PS3 is doing just fine with the Slim model and it's multiple price drops (going from $600 to $250 in just 5 years is a great accomplishment). The PS3 has plenty of 3rd party support, with multiple exclusive titles.

Now look at Nintendo's situation. Analysts and gaming "journalists" are saying they should just give up, that the 3DS is a lost cause. It's the same thing people said about Sony. Can Nintendo turn things around the way Sony did?

Not really. Nintendo has had a rougher year than the three or four preceding it so a few people jumped the gun.

I think after the success of the Wii and DS, people had expectations that Nintendo couldn't possibly fail. I remember people (game journalists and analysts) were saying the same thing about Sony.

I personally dont think nintendos in trouble
I just think people like to wine
back in 09 I remember people saying "nintendo should make a DS2" then in 2010 people said "3DS should be released this year in Nov" then the whole eShop thing then we have the whole "3DS was rushed" nintendo is responding to peoples wines as fast as they can

@otaku: wine can be good every now and then

nintendo gets bashed cause they are sux, simple as that

Says the guy with "Hyrule" in his name.

I couldn't have said that better myself, cause my English skills are sux

So you agree with zezhyrule? Or are you being sarcastic?

Then explain why Sony got bashed after the PS3 was released. People love to hate Sony too, you know.

The irony here is that zez is sarcastic.

@hatty475 I just realized what your avatar is.

Better question: why is someone who is claiming to be born in 1984 using the juvenile term "bashed?"

On a more serious note: if Sony didn't work f'ing hard to fix the PS3 (and it's done almost everything right since those dark early days), then Sony would have failed.

Similarly if Nintendo doesn't work f'ing hard to fix the 3DS and convince people of the Wii U (and so far it's been very hit and miss about all that), then it will fail.

Unlike Nintendo fans, games journalists and analysts are not mean to be blinded by fandom.

That said, I do agree that most games journalists have no idea about business and should refrain from making themselves look stupid, and most analysts that look at the games industry are clearly only doing it because they can't get a job anywhere else. Then again, most Nintendo fans are... not experts... at this stuff either.

Nintendo will release a new 3DS next year and it will fly off the shelves the way the DS Lite did.

I don't know witch is worst.
Nintendo or Nintendo fanboys!
This is just getting sad now.

@Oddy Yes, Scott Pilgrim is awesome.

@tendoboy1984 I was being sarcastic. Of course Nintendo can turn things around like Sony did. But will they? I don't know. Probably.

Some people bash something for fun.
Some bash for a reason.

Why do you care? If you support Nintendo that should be all that matters.

....Waiting is hard, yes. lol

It's rather difficult for journalists and analysts to get paid by sitting on their backsides waiting for stuff to happen.

For once I agree with you. But to be fair to Nintendo, they've done a lot to fix the perceived "problems" of the 3DS. They've dropped the price to $169 (which is a much more reasonable price), and there are a bunch of high profile games coming out at the end of the year. The only thing Nintendo still needs to fix is the eShop (getting more 3DS games on there, and more Virtual Console games).

Nintendo has always been cryptic with their new platform announcements. Remember back when they first unveiled the Wii, all they showed was the console. We had to wait another year to see the controller and tech demos. With the Wii U, they are going to wait until E3 2012 to give us the full details (price, release date, launch titles, etc.). I don't know why Nintendo does this, it's just the way they've always acted.

It's not like Nintendo is the only console maker out there. These analysts and journalists have plenty of other stuff to talk about on Sony and Microsoft's side.

But to be fair to Nintendo, they've done a lot to fix the perceived "problems" of the 3DS.

So that circle pad add on was universally well-liked by the gaming community? I just imagined the complaints on forums and in the media.

My point was that Sony had a bad launch, and then proceeded to get things right. The 3DS had a bad launch, and Nintendo is currently running 50-50 with its comeback plan.

And the real problems (eShop, online play, connectedness of the console to social networks and the like)... those problems are not being resolved.