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21. Posted:

@GL: Wikipedia says it's Flash-based.

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22. Posted:

Flash? Clearly someone's forgotten about HTML5. There's the future of web, the next generation of the building blocks that make webpages possible. Also, although YouTube isn't very likely for now, it does seem suitable.

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@almostnacho: to elaborate on your point in context with what i just said before, YouTube's HTML5 version only works for browsers that support the H.264 or WebM codecs, and Opera only does Ogg Theora for sure so far. makes you wonder if Ninty'll be pressing for more HTML5 video support for the 3DS or not (provided they're still even partnered with Opera, lol).

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I wouldn't be suprosed if Ninty went the HTML5 route as so many sites and going that way to accomdate Apple.

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Hardy83

25. Posted:

If Nintendo was smart they would put enough ram in there to support flash or whatever you need to run Flash Lite 10.1, but I suspect Nintendo will continue to make their tech weak enough that browsing is flat out pathetic.

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Hardy83 wrote:

If Nintendo was smart they would put enough ram in there to support flash or whatever you need to run Flash Lite 10.1, but I suspect Nintendo will continue to make their tech weak enough that browsing is flat out pathetic.

So, you think that Ninty is dumb just because they aren't putting flash in they're products?
What they need to run flash WELL would make the 3DS not very portable, so if Ninendo did that it wouldn't be so smart now would it?
Besides, flash would only be good for movies, because I'm not sure if you noticed, but the 3DS doesn't have a built-in keyboard.

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27. Posted:

Obviously since there's many things Nintendo is still working on for the 3DS, they may very well be deciding between trying to cram some version of Flash into the 3DS's brwoser and maybe HTML5. Either way, as long as it's a major improvement over the DSi's browser, I'll be fine with it.

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Cowtruck123

28. Posted:

Probably not

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Ark

29. Posted:

The Wii itself has flash, and the 3DS should presumably have a good chunk of RAM comparable to it (it's pretty cheap to put a decent amount of RAM in a handheld these days, you can run YouTube even on a cheap mobile phone). We won't know if it's POSSIBLE until we see some real specs, but the DSi had a petty 16MB (it's safe to assume they wanted to enable the Web Browser and nothing more, maybe for a few DSiWare releases) and a PSP 2000 has 64MB (there are other factors but the RAM is important)...the 2000 can run flash player as can the Wii's 88MB. If the 3DS is in the same ballpark, and judging from what we've seen of the tech it is, it can run flash.

The way Nintendo teamed up with Facebook to add support on the DSi might be a hint at their interest in bringing all the mainstream community sites (Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, etc.) to handhelds. They[presumably] didn't further invest in doing this for the DSi as it was impractical given the vastly outdated specs of the DSi, which would prevent the services from running.

We have no confirmation either way but if you take Nintendo's recent past into account, the affordability of technology, and the fact that the 3DS is almost certainly going to have the power to run it, your answer is "pretty likely." There's no guarantee it'll be flash itself, but it could be a different yet similar technology. It might not be practical in the long run and may be many issues/bugs, but by no means does that say there will be no support for it. The severe lagging, choking, and memory issues that occur when accessing an even slightly complex site didn't stop Nintendo from releasing the DSi Web Browser.

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lunchmeats101

30. Posted:

I really hope not. HTML5 is the way to go. Think about how slow flash would be on a page full of advertisements, or even controlling flash applications. And don't even get me started on battery life.

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31. Posted:

I think flash is a mess, and HTML5 is going to be a standard to it would make sense for HTML5,
anyway these are flash lite requirements.

  • 32-bit data bus, 200MHz
  • 380KB core player DLL size (without video codecs)
  • RAM requirements
    o For UI: 4–6MB
    o For standalone content: 2–4MB (excludes video)
    o For web browsing: 32MB
  • Content size-to-heap ratio 1:15

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blacqwolf

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Accourding to one of the Nintendo engineers, the 3DS will have more processing power than the wii, and will most likely have mutch more memory. So, it will be flash caplable, but the Q & A is: Will Nintendo put flash on? If so, it will most likely be flash lite, which the latest I heard of is 3.1, or Flash 8. If so, you cannot watch regular YT, but YT XL, because it doesnt require flash 10. If Wii does it with a 730MHz cpu, im sure 3DS can do the same, especially with more.

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Hardy83

33. Posted:

Destroyer360 wrote:

So, you think that Ninty is dumb just because they aren't putting flash in they're products?
What they need to run flash WELL would make the 3DS not very portable, so if Ninendo did that it wouldn't be so smart now would it?
Besides, flash would only be good for movies, because I'm not sure if you noticed, but the 3DS doesn't have a built-in keyboard.

Yes Nintendo is dumb because I'm talking about online functionality and so far in my 27 year life Nintendo has failed online anything on every level. Great games, awesome systems, but online, how can you screw up so badly ALL the time?! lol

And if I could watch Hulu, youtube or flash based sites like Comedy Network on the 3DS I would LLLLOVE it and would kind of make sense when they said Apple is an enemy..I mean you're going to fight a VERY multi-use device with...A very limited one?

So yes their dumb...But that's my opinion and it's not like that matters because no matter what they do, the device will sell millions regardless and some people will be content with Nintendo just doing the same old same old when it comes to system functionality and flexibility.

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eripmav

34. Posted:

Youtube had a re-encoding overhaul a few months back, so that all content for iPhone streams via HTML5.

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Toonlink97

35. Posted:

Stick with HTML5. Flash is kinda slow on mobile devices.

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Has anyone tried Flash 10.1 on a mobile device? How well does it work?
I know mobile processsors are strong enough to handle pretty much all video flash sites, it's the ram that is usually an issue....Which I assume Nintendo won't be putting more than 128MB of RAM in the 3DS unfortunately. Though 256 or 512 would be really nice.

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37. Posted:

@tbd - It uses both, I just realised. You need the latest Flash and JavaScript enabled. ...Plus, Wikipedia can be edited by anyone. :-3
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38. Posted:

I don't really care, as long as they make a YouTube app. :P

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39. Posted:

So... No Homestar Runner?

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Nintenzo wrote:

So... No Homestar Runner?

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