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@shadowhive In regards to "for example you can go on a killing spree and god will 'forgive' that sin with no problems. On the other hand if someone goes through life, does the best they can with it, but doesn't follow christianity, they're thrown into hell without a second thought" that would most likely be incorrect. According to the Christian faith, if you do something wrong simply because you believe that you will get forgiveness, then forgiveness is not guarenteed. Only if you are truely sorry will you be forgiven. Also (and this is my personal view of my faith and I'm not sure how many agree) people regardless of religion are judged based on their ability to lead a morally correct life. One is not simply thrown into hell for not being Christian.

On a side note, that was a good point about the killing in video games not being banned. It does basically nullify all religious arguments about same-sex marriage in a game.

I suppose it makes sense from a business standpoint. Hope they start something soon though, 'cause Insomniac's games (that I've played) were freaking awesome.

@jacksayspurple I was more saying that i would not encourage someone to be gay, however in the basic society gays are usually social outcasts and i believe that this is very wrong.
Basically if someone asked me to vote, i would probably vote for gay rights even though i don't believe that it is right, because it is simply my religious view and i have respect for people of different beliefs. It can be compared to being banned from eating beef by a muslim. I would be very upset, so I can understand how people would be upset at me forcing my religious beliefs upon them.

@TeeJay Agreed, though if I were you I would try to stop convincing anyone in this thread. Both sides are somewhat closed-minded and very few are willing to seriously consider another's view. To them, this is Nintendo taking a side.

@TheAdza That's a somewhat convoluted way to look at it. It may have simply been too financially or technologically difficult to rationalise the features inclusion.

@zeldagaymer93 While I personally don't support gay rights, I don't believe in treating gays any different from everybody else so, while it's not really my personal opinion, I agree that Nintendo seems to have taken a side in this issue which they really shouldn't have.

I think Nintendo did the smart thing here. Due to the fact that it was a glitch, removing it in no way says that Nintendo opposes gay rights while at the same time never hints at supporting gays either. In this way, Nintendo can remain neutral in the debate, not offending either side.

This is a shame. I loved the Ratchet and Clank games on PS2 and since I'm not planning to get PS3, a similar game on Wii U would have been nice. Oh well...

@Prof_Elvin_Gadd I usually just stick with one until the inevitable third one releases and then i might get that one.

After I finally thought i had outgrown Pokemon, they just HAVE to announce a game that i could never refuse. Well played. I'm so psyched for the new details.

Please be metroid. pleasepleasepleaseplease!!!

meh... never really planned on getting it anyway. too many other excellent games to get throughout the year.

@astroshamu yeah... i can see how it can be interpretted both ways.

@astroshamu no, actually i was referring to how at the end, the wii u version is placed next to the PS3 and X-Box and underneath it says (*also coming to next generation consoles.)

Anyone else notice how they put Wii U in the same generation as PS3 and X-Box.