SUBTERRANEANguy

Looks pretty basic, with no real shortcuts? Should be massive fun though. Definitely could get messy hahaha!!

@IceClimbers Yes, but your argument works the other way too: that impressionable girls who are influenced by the media may think that they need perfect bikini bodies or that wearing skimpy clothes may lead to more job opportunities, fame, recognition like their favorite pop stars. So your point proves that at the very least, its a debate worth having at some future time. I pesonally have no problem with Shantae (shes a genie and is wearing plausible genie clothing), and i would also let my 8yr old son play it. However, everyone parents differently and has a different opinion/morals. And thats just as valid as mine.

@IceClimbers Women being allowed to wear what they want is not the same issue as how women are portrayed in video games by (mainly) male game developers.

@AlexOlney If he's going to be a games developer, maybe its an important issue for him. It's certainly a relevant debate in today's gaming climate.

@Kirk Personally, my mindset is almost the same as yours, but my point is that just because you or i dont believe the issues dont really exist, doesnt mean that everyone feels this way. As you say, why should you have to feel youve done something wrong if, for example, you create a sprite of a girl in a bikini/bellytop? But the more pertinent question would then be, 'WHY is she in a bikini/bellytop? Does it fit or add to the game? In Shantae's case, she is a genie, so yes, i would say that it is within the realms of possibility that she would wear said garments. This is more the issue, i think: what are they wearing/saying/doing and 'is it in context with the game?'

The issue at hand is not black and white. There are good games developers and poor games developers. The whole of the games industry is not full of sick twisted perverts, but on the other hand its not completely free from sexism or, like tv adverts,etc, the cliche that 'sex sells' your product. This is the same for the movie business and videos for average pop songs, where business men know that the star in a bikini will sell more/create more hype than fully clothed. No doubt that journalists are really focussing on gaming culture at the moment, either for clicks, tabloid space or a genuine concern (im with you on that it seems to be sensationalised.) But even if the journos are doing it for the wrong reasons and attempting to stigmatise gamers, surely it is still worth a healthy open debate? Because the undeniable fact is that alot of people genuinly feel that women are objectified in media/entertainment. Surely you dont believe that we should sweep concerns about the hobby we love under the carpet?

@kirk I don't think that (in general) the average 6-10 yr old who may or may not play Shantae or any other similar game view these spites in a sexual way whatsoever. The sexualisation of a female form is a teenage/ADULT biological concept, expressed by human desire/ experience. Therefore, the debate is based on a concept which kids cannot have inherently anyway, as they have no sexual desire whatsoever and many would therefore just see Shantae as a kick-ass genie, who is a woman and therefore has breasts. The parenting issue is different, as even though biologically a kid wouldnt necessarily view a picture/sprite of a female in a sexual way, they may on a consistent basis hear their father/uncle/older friends speak of women as more or less desirable sexual objects first and foremost. This is more of an ill-educated chauvinistic regressive attitude, and even if a parent was brought up as such, one should be looking to break the cycle. We should never view a person as 'a means to an end', but 'AS the end'.

Kaze_Memaryu i never said we have to 'agree' with other people's opinions, or that we should respect EVERY opinion which differs from ours. What we must respect is that people HAVE different opinions, beliefs and morals whether we agree with them or not. That is the basic human right of every human being and the basic tenet of individualism and free-thinking which we are all entitled to. Also, it is again up to each individual whether or not they decide to 'respond' to another's opinion/belief or not. This usually opens up debate and constructive discussion as to the validity of the opinion or perhaps if either party is suffering from a certain 'ignorance'. Even if both parties fail to agree at the end of the discussion, at least BOTH sides of the argument have been put forward equal and fairly. Your replies just cast other people's views or concerns aside, basically labelling them 'paranoid' which i think is extremely unhelpful and no argument at all. Also, 'proper parenting' and 'morality' have no universal standard or criteria, unless you have written a book recently which i must have missed. The point is, that while i may disagree with alot of people's views on Shantae, a blow to feminism in gaming, etc, i respect that people have differing views and welcome them sharing them, so that with an intelligence and humility, they may be discussed.

@ToxieDogg well we must respect other people's morals and beliefs. And therefore respect their opinions and views. We can't paint everyone as 'jumping on the bandwagon'. HOWEVER, if you walk a very hard rigid line concerning feminism/perceived sexualisation in the media,etc, then it should extend towards ALL gaming, music, films, novels,etc and therefore in my opinion, you are severely limiting yourself to some amazing literature, games, films. And what is the 'moral barometer' in deciding what to play/ what not to play/watch?? If Mario Galaxy 3 releases next year to near perfect review scores, but Peach dances in a bikini in a part of it, then alot of 'hardliners' will surely be missing out.

@sketchturner, so you're passing on Bayonetta 1 and 2? If you are, then i applaud you're morals and view. If not, then you sir are a hypocrite.

I'm waiting on custom mii of your own mii. Levelling yourself up over many games would be cool.

Even xbox one owners and ps4 owners are gonna need extra storage if they go mainly digital. This is where gaming is going and i'm sure this gen has really made Nintendo take notice.

I've a 32gig model, and STILL bought a 2tb external harddrive. Most consumers have a little forethought with regards the product they are buying (and its limitations/available upgrades.)

I read a review somewhere saying that its a solid rpg but quite repetitive.