@Tsuchinoko Sonic Lost World is a VERY divisive game. You either love the new gameplay style or hate it and it clearly shows in the reviews. It can the best 3D Sonic game ever made to some and the worst Sonic game since Sonic 06 to others.
When was the last time Sonic did well in Japan? He was always irrelevant there. He was made by a Japanese company, but he's definitely a Western franchise.
@Wesker Mario ran on airborne logs in the Galaxy series...just sayin'.
@AugustusOxy ...You clearly haven't seen or played Sonic 1. Go look up Marble Zone, that stage is SO FAST. Sonic was ALWAYS about platforming since the very beginning.
In the classic games, speed had to be EARNED with skill and it was not handed over to you on a silver platter like in Sonic Unleashed with the boost. That philosophy is being translated into 3D with this game. With the parkour, spin-dash and the tier-based speed system, you can traverse the stages with speed and finesse when you've acquired the skill and memory of the stages first. Sonic games need more substance, and slowing him down to allow for more intricate and interesting platforming is the way to do it.
I've pre-ordered Mario and Luigi: Dream Team. So STOKED for that game, I've played all 3 of the previous games and the Mario and Luigi series is really stellar.
@Knuckles There's no way Sonic Colours (DS) and Sonic Generations (3DS) are as good as Sonic Rush and Rush Adventure. Sonic Colours (DS) was OK, but Generations (3DS) was just lazy to be honest.
@Neram But Colours and Generations we're pretty good, people have not been "disappointed" with them though...not everyone is going to like them, but they are GOOD games and have appealed well to a lot of people and have also done Sonic a hell of a lot of justice. But meh, if we're still gonna bring up Sonic's past downfalls every single time something Sonic related pops up then "more power to you".
@sinalefa Try both...or get the Sonic Generations demo if you have PSN/Xbox Live. He has had 3 good games in a row now, I don't think Sonic has to prove that his games are "good" anymore. Yes we know he has had a hard time back in the past and yes we know that Sonic 06 was a BAD game for the millionth time but jeez, this is 2012 now, not 2005-2009, cut him some slack.
Well, no offence but this is very obvious. As for Classic Sonic returning again, I say no...the nostalgia riding is enough for now, just make another unique Sonic game like Sonic Colours.
We will get a Sonic game for the Wii U, PS3 and 360...or we'll get an exclusive Wii U Sonic game and an exclusive Sonic game for the PS3 and 360 and have all three platforms have a downloadable Sonic game. That's how I think it will go anyway.
What I would REALLY like though is a 3DS Sonic game made by Sonic Team themselves, not Dimps...a Sonic Rush 3 would be very nice.
They should've made a Mass Effect Collection for the Wii U, including Mass Effect 2 and 3 (Mass Effect 1 is partially owned by Microsoft, so it's an Xbox 360 and PC exclusive).
If you really want to get involved in this franchise, then do yourself a favor and play the trilogy on the 360 or PC...Mass Effect 3 will not feel complete without transferring your Shepard from the previous games (seriously, I'm not kidding).
But hey, that's my two pennies...it's your valuable paper.
@Incognito_D: I do have to agree here...but hey, Nintendo is FINALLY in the HD zone, so that should count for something.
I don't mean to sound like a Sony or Microsoft 'fanboy' but the people who are waiting for raw graphical power to arrive on a console will be better of waiting for the PS4 and the Xbox 720.
Current gen consoles still look great for 7 year-old tech anyway...the Wii U is slightly more powerful that current gen consoles, so that's A-OK in my eyes.
Anyway. I must say that I am getting bored with Mario. He hasn't actually brought anything new to the table after Mario Galaxy came out. If there was one franchise from Nintendo that I really enjoy though, it has to be Zelda.
@XCWarrior What I don't get is why everyone thinks that only Europeans play CoD, don't Americans (not all) buy and play the damn games as much? I live in London I haven't purchased a single CoD game.
The games aren't selling here and I guess that's because people are spending their money on the bigger triple A titles, maybe the games are just plain unappealing to people. I don't like minigame compilations, so why should I buy Mario Party 9 and Mario and Sonic at the London Olympics? I'm not a huge fan of JRPG's so why should I buy Pandora's Tower?
Don't come and categorize ALL of Europe and say that ALL Europeans only play CoD. I've seen that statement like 6 times on this site and to be honest, it's ticking me off.
@JarvanZheitk Yeah, the UK and Europe really are the only countries who only play FPS's and Violent/Gory games and think that they are too 'old' or 'cool' for Nintendo games and such... [/sarcasm]
It was hardly advertised here anyway and none of the main game stores seem to have stocked it. Not everyone here is a stereotypical FPS addict and such y'know. I've bought only one FPS in my entire life so far (no, it's not Modern Warfare 3) and I'm of legal age, I don't care what the genre is, as long as it's a good game I'll plan to buy it.
It's looks like a damn good game and it's a shame that it didn't sell well in this region, but that's no excuse to put all of us European gamers in the same book.
The Xbox 720 will most likely have DirectX 11 support...see some Crysis 2 DirectX 11 gameplay to see how good it makes games look. I'm stoked for it....as for the Wii U, well, I'll see. Unless home consoles are as or more powerful than the most powerful PC currently available, there's still room for improvement.
Also, why would Microsoft copy the Wii U's controller? They have Kinect, which is very unique in the motion control department...they just need to use it in more unique ways. As for Sony though, well they blatantly copied the Wiimore with the PS Move so I can't really say much about what they're going to do.
@Shworange It's a codename, y'know, like how the Wii U was called Project Cafe.
@UKD Sonic CD didn't come on the Wii because of the soundtrack. It's too big for 40MB. The Wii version of Sonic 4: Episode 1 can't even handle the music the PS3/360 had (which is kind of LOL worthy), let alone the Japanese AND American/Europe versions of Sonic CD's soundtrack.
About the Episode 2 thing...I've repeated myself enough times. I'm fed up.
@retro_player_22 Oh wow, you're seriously saying that the Wii isn't getting Episode 2 because you Wii only gamers didn't buy enough copies of Sonic Colours?! LMAO, OK then! I might as well just say that the HD consoles didn't get Sonic Colours because HD gamers didn't buy enough copies of Sonic 06 and Unleashed.
I can understand that you guys are upset that Episode 2 isn't coming on Wii because Episode 1 is on there now and that makes sense but please find another reason because that's just invalid. I'm not trying to be an a** but I really don't know what else to say.
Episode 2 is probably going to be 1 - 1.5GB in size this time...please explain to me how they're going to compress that to 40MB? That RIGHT THERE is a valid reason why Episode 2 isn't coming on Wii. Sonic 4 is a multiplatform game and if Episode 1 can fit on the Wii and Episode 2 can't then what can they do? They are trying to make a better game and that file size limit is hindering them from doing that.
Oh well, I'm done. If this doesn't make sense to you then carry on dissing Sonic and SEGA you guys, Imma gonna play some Generations on my 360 with some Battlefield 3 to boot. HAPPY NEW YEAR!
You guys want to know WHY the Wii isn't getting it? It's because of the Wii's ridiculously stupid 40MB download size limit for WiiWare games.
Episode 2 is going to be bigger and better (new graphics and physics engine, probably more levels, new character animations, better sounding music, etc), and it'll most likely exceed the limit, this is the same reason why the Wii didn't get Sonic CD (and a crapton of other games for that matter). If you want to blame someone, blame Nintendo for making such a silly decision in the first place.
@Clinker Sonic Generations (HD versions) says Hi.
@Kage_88 Reason 1) Look above and read my post. Reason 2) Believe it or not, the Wii's time is up.
Also the Mario and Sonic at the Olympics franchise is for the CASUAL MARKET (emphasis on the casual). Casual games always sell a crapton anyway, it's just a cash cow and nothing more.
Seriously...that controller will explode with all those features in it. A HD Mario and Zelda isn't enough for me to buy this thing, but I'll still get it around 1-2 years time...but then the next Xbox will be out, hmm...choices.
One thing that ticks me off is that when I sell my Wii for a Wii U, I still have to buy an entire set of Wii accessories AGAIN because you can't buy another one of these darn controllers!
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Re: Pokémon X & Y Reign Supreme in Japan Once Again, Though the Wii U and Sonic Endure Tough Times
@Tsuchinoko Sonic Lost World is a VERY divisive game. You either love the new gameplay style or hate it and it clearly shows in the reviews. It can the best 3D Sonic game ever made to some and the worst Sonic game since Sonic 06 to others.
Re: Pokémon X & Y Reign Supreme in Japan Once Again, Though the Wii U and Sonic Endure Tough Times
When was the last time Sonic did well in Japan? He was always irrelevant there. He was made by a Japanese company, but he's definitely a Western franchise.
Re: Out Now: Pokémon X & Y 3DS XL Models Arrive in North America and PAL Regions
I got a blue one yesterday. It looks so awesome.
Re: Video: These Sonic Lost World Bosses Look Rather Fun
@jayclayx So, this looks childish and Mario does not...OK.
@mariobro4 He said "go to hell"...I ain't kidding. That would definitely not make it into the English version, lol.
Re: Pokéball Offered with Pokémon X & Y Pre-orders in the UK
I can finally pre-order Pokemon Y from GAME now
Re: SEGA Is Hoping To Win Back Platforming Fans With Sonic Lost World
@Wesker Mario ran on airborne logs in the Galaxy series...just sayin'.
@AugustusOxy ...You clearly haven't seen or played Sonic 1. Go look up Marble Zone, that stage is SO FAST. Sonic was ALWAYS about platforming since the very beginning.
In the classic games, speed had to be EARNED with skill and it was not handed over to you on a silver platter like in Sonic Unleashed with the boost. That philosophy is being translated into 3D with this game. With the parkour, spin-dash and the tier-based speed system, you can traverse the stages with speed and finesse when you've acquired the skill and memory of the stages first. Sonic games need more substance, and slowing him down to allow for more intricate and interesting platforming is the way to do it.
Re: SEGA Is Hoping To Win Back Platforming Fans With Sonic Lost World
Actually NL, Sonic Unleashed got mixed reviews, Sonic Colours and Generations got generally positive reviews.
Re: Pikmin 3 Listed As £39.99 On The Wii U eShop in The UK
I'm still getting Pikmin 3 from GAME...I want that exclusive keyring they're dishing out. I'm sure that I can get The Wonderful 101 cheaper elsewhere.
Re: Nintendo Download: 11th July (Europe)
I've pre-ordered Mario and Luigi: Dream Team. So STOKED for that game, I've played all 3 of the previous games and the Mario and Luigi series is really stellar.
Re: Happy 22nd Birthday, Sonic!
It's also Eggman's birthday too =P
Re: Game Freak: The Pokémon World Will Be Evolving In 2013
It's time for CHAAYYNNNNGE!!
Re: Sonic The Hedgehog Dashing Onto Platforms In 2013
@Knuckles There's no way Sonic Colours (DS) and Sonic Generations (3DS) are as good as Sonic Rush and Rush Adventure. Sonic Colours (DS) was OK, but Generations (3DS) was just lazy to be honest.
@Neram But Colours and Generations we're pretty good, people have not been "disappointed" with them though...not everyone is going to like them, but they are GOOD games and have appealed well to a lot of people and have also done Sonic a hell of a lot of justice. But meh, if we're still gonna bring up Sonic's past downfalls every single time something Sonic related pops up then "more power to you".
@sinalefa Try both...or get the Sonic Generations demo if you have PSN/Xbox Live. He has had 3 good games in a row now, I don't think Sonic has to prove that his games are "good" anymore. Yes we know he has had a hard time back in the past and yes we know that Sonic 06 was a BAD game for the millionth time but jeez, this is 2012 now, not 2005-2009, cut him some slack.
Re: Sonic The Hedgehog Dashing Onto Platforms In 2013
Well, no offence but this is very obvious. As for Classic Sonic returning again, I say no...the nostalgia riding is enough for now, just make another unique Sonic game like Sonic Colours.
We will get a Sonic game for the Wii U, PS3 and 360...or we'll get an exclusive Wii U Sonic game and an exclusive Sonic game for the PS3 and 360 and have all three platforms have a downloadable Sonic game. That's how I think it will go anyway.
What I would REALLY like though is a 3DS Sonic game made by Sonic Team themselves, not Dimps...a Sonic Rush 3 would be very nice.
Re: Rookie Developer Shepherding Mass Effect 3 Onto Wii U
They should've made a Mass Effect Collection for the Wii U, including Mass Effect 2 and 3 (Mass Effect 1 is partially owned by Microsoft, so it's an Xbox 360 and PC exclusive).
If you really want to get involved in this franchise, then do yourself a favor and play the trilogy on the 360 or PC...Mass Effect 3 will not feel complete without transferring your Shepard from the previous games (seriously, I'm not kidding).
But hey, that's my two pennies...it's your valuable paper.
Re: Sumo Digital: Wii U "Looks As Good" as HD Platforms
@Incognito_D: I do have to agree here...but hey, Nintendo is FINALLY in the HD zone, so that should count for something.
I don't mean to sound like a Sony or Microsoft 'fanboy' but the people who are waiting for raw graphical power to arrive on a console will be better of waiting for the PS4 and the Xbox 720.
Current gen consoles still look great for 7 year-old tech anyway...the Wii U is slightly more powerful that current gen consoles, so that's A-OK in my eyes.
Re: 3DS XL Comparision Gallery
Those screens really are fat...it's very tempting, but I still can't find a reason to buy the thing.
Re: Bigger Nintendo 3DS Console Revealed
...I'll stick with the original 3DS, and why they didn't put a second circle pad on it is beyond me.
Re: Mario Kart 7 Update Available Now
A patch? For a Nintendo game?!
PROGRESS FEELS GOOD!!
Re: Talking Point: The Critical Importance of Black Ops 2
We can all say what we want about CoD, but it always and will always sells bucket loads.
Re: Nintendo Confirms E3 2012 Press Conference Date & Time
5pm, sweet.
I wonder if Microsoft will also reveal their new console...well, we'll see.
Re: Wii U Designed to Do The Impossible
Full HD. 1080p output for a home console. Impressive.
Re: Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed Hits 3DS
@Sony_70
Same here.
Re: Mario's Presence in UK is 'Smallest in the World'
@DeMoN-13ruce
Mass Effect 3 is not a 'noob' game.
Anyway. I must say that I am getting bored with Mario. He hasn't actually brought anything new to the table after Mario Galaxy came out. If there was one franchise from Nintendo that I really enjoy though, it has to be Zelda.
Re: UK Chart Results Are Less Than Golden for Nintendo
@XCWarrior
What I don't get is why everyone thinks that only Europeans play CoD, don't Americans (not all) buy and play the damn games as much? I live in London I haven't purchased a single CoD game.
The games aren't selling here and I guess that's because people are spending their money on the bigger triple A titles, maybe the games are just plain unappealing to people. I don't like minigame compilations, so why should I buy Mario Party 9 and Mario and Sonic at the London Olympics? I'm not a huge fan of JRPG's so why should I buy Pandora's Tower?
Don't come and categorize ALL of Europe and say that ALL Europeans only play CoD. I've seen that statement like 6 times on this site and to be honest, it's ticking me off.
Re: Talking Point: What Games Are You Playing This Weekend?
Battlefield 3
Skyward Sword
Pokemon Black
Sonic Generations (not the 3DS version)
I'll have to buy Kid Icarus: Uprising sometime too.
Re: We'll Finally See Pikmin 3 at This Year's E3
I'm more exited for this compared to the new Mario.
Re: Kid Icarus: Uprising Fails to Fly in UK Charts
@JarvanZheitk Yeah, the UK and Europe really are the only countries who only play FPS's and Violent/Gory games and think that they are too 'old' or 'cool' for Nintendo games and such... [/sarcasm]
It was hardly advertised here anyway and none of the main game stores seem to have stocked it. Not everyone here is a stereotypical FPS addict and such y'know. I've bought only one FPS in my entire life so far (no, it's not Modern Warfare 3) and I'm of legal age, I don't care what the genre is, as long as it's a good game I'll plan to buy it.
It's looks like a damn good game and it's a shame that it didn't sell well in this region, but that's no excuse to put all of us European gamers in the same book.
Re: Get Your Pokémon Sequels Teaser Trailer Here
I really hope that they aren't called Black Kryurem and White Kryurem...
Re: Pokémon Black and White 2 Europe-Bound this Autumn
I'm still a little mad that this isn't a 3DS game but hey, it'll be a damn good game anyway.
Re: North America Gets Pokémon Black and White 2 this Fall
^ They had a reason for that, but we've been through that already.
In other news...that was way quicker than I expected.
Re: eShop Game Size Limit is 2GB
That much better Nintendo.
Re: Wii U Controller Originally Had Proper Analogue Sticks
They better put those sticks back...I'm not saying that the Circle Pad on the 3DS is bad but actual analogue sticks are WAAAAAY more responsive. Fact.
Re: Pokémon Director Hypes up Sunday Announcement
Black & White 2 is on the DS?! Make a 3DS Pokemon game already!!
Re: See, Kids? Sonic and Mario Weren't Always Friends
I'm still waiting for a Mario and Sonic Platformer...
Re: Iwata: "Wii U Will Be At its Best at Launch"
Thank God...the 3DS Launch was pukeworthy.
Re: Nintendo Reconfirms Wii U Will Not Make Wii Games Sharper
Why the heck not?! The Xbox 360 can upscale Xbox games to 1080p!
...Oh well, no Skyward Sword in HD people.
Re: Rumour: Wii U Heading for E3 Face-Off with PS4 and Xbox 720
The Xbox 720 will most likely have DirectX 11 support...see some Crysis 2 DirectX 11 gameplay to see how good it makes games look. I'm stoked for it....as for the Wii U, well, I'll see. Unless home consoles are as or more powerful than the most powerful PC currently available, there's still room for improvement.
Also, why would Microsoft copy the Wii U's controller? They have Kinect, which is very unique in the motion control department...they just need to use it in more unique ways. As for Sony though, well they blatantly copied the Wiimore with the PS Move so I can't really say much about what they're going to do.
@Shworange
It's a codename, y'know, like how the Wii U was called Project Cafe.
Re: SEGA Confirms No WiiWare Outing for Sonic 4: Episode II
@UKD
Sonic CD didn't come on the Wii because of the soundtrack. It's too big for 40MB. The Wii version of Sonic 4: Episode 1 can't even handle the music the PS3/360 had (which is kind of LOL worthy), let alone the Japanese AND American/Europe versions of Sonic CD's soundtrack.
About the Episode 2 thing...I've repeated myself enough times. I'm fed up.
Re: SEGA Confirms No WiiWare Outing for Sonic 4: Episode II
@retro_player_22
Oh wow, you're seriously saying that the Wii isn't getting Episode 2 because you Wii only gamers didn't buy enough copies of Sonic Colours?! LMAO, OK then! I might as well just say that the HD consoles didn't get Sonic Colours because HD gamers didn't buy enough copies of Sonic 06 and Unleashed.
I can understand that you guys are upset that Episode 2 isn't coming on Wii because Episode 1 is on there now and that makes sense but please find another reason because that's just invalid. I'm not trying to be an a** but I really don't know what else to say.
Episode 2 is probably going to be 1 - 1.5GB in size this time...please explain to me how they're going to compress that to 40MB? That RIGHT THERE is a valid reason why Episode 2 isn't coming on Wii. Sonic 4 is a multiplatform game and if Episode 1 can fit on the Wii and Episode 2 can't then what can they do? They are trying to make a better game and that file size limit is hindering them from doing that.
Oh well, I'm done. If this doesn't make sense to you then carry on dissing Sonic and SEGA you guys, Imma gonna play some Generations on my 360 with some Battlefield 3 to boot. HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Re: SEGA Confirms No WiiWare Outing for Sonic 4: Episode II
You guys want to know WHY the Wii isn't getting it? It's because of the Wii's ridiculously stupid 40MB download size limit for WiiWare games.
Episode 2 is going to be bigger and better (new graphics and physics engine, probably more levels, new character animations, better sounding music, etc), and it'll most likely exceed the limit, this is the same reason why the Wii didn't get Sonic CD (and a crapton of other games for that matter). If you want to blame someone, blame Nintendo for making such a silly decision in the first place.
@Clinker
Sonic Generations (HD versions) says Hi.
@Kage_88
Reason 1) Look above and read my post.
Reason 2) Believe it or not, the Wii's time is up.
Also the Mario and Sonic at the Olympics franchise is for the CASUAL MARKET (emphasis on the casual). Casual games always sell a crapton anyway, it's just a cash cow and nothing more.
Re: Sonic 4: Episode II Teaser Trailer Due Tomorrow
Make the Physics like Sonic Generations, or better...that's ALL I want. Better level design and Tails being playable wouldn't hurt too.
Re: 3DS Firmware Update Available Now
I just updated my Xbox 360 and now I have to update my 3DS...all on the same day! LOL. The new features sound pretty awesome.
Re: How to Avoid Skyward Sword's Game-Ending Glitch
Unfortunately, Nintendo can't patch this game due to the crappy online service the Wii has.
Re: Miyamoto: "Super Mario 64 Was Boring"
Agreed.
Re: PETA - Relax Mario Fans, It Was All a Joke
LMFAO! Now that's some funny stuff...if they really mean it then that's what I call an expert Practical Joke xD
Re: Resi Revelations Trailer Features Classic Voice Acting
Graphics are impressive...very, very impressive!
Re: Wii U Controller Patent Reveals Interesting Features
Can it also give me a back massage?
Seriously...that controller will explode with all those features in it. A HD Mario and Zelda isn't enough for me to buy this thing, but I'll still get it around 1-2 years time...but then the next Xbox will be out, hmm...choices.
One thing that ticks me off is that when I sell my Wii for a Wii U, I still have to buy an entire set of Wii accessories AGAIN because you can't buy another one of these darn controllers!
Re: You Can Buy Your Zelda Symphony Tickets Today
....I'll pass.
Re: Iwata Shoulders Blame for Low 3DS Sales, Cuts Salary in Half
@34
How in the world is it Sony's fault that the 3DS launch was crap?
Re: Nintendo Download: 28th July 2011 (Europe)
Downloading Let's Golf 3D...it looks like fun but I hope it'll be good.