@MSaturn Nintendo has never sold any console/handheld at a loss! You are clutching at straws if you think Nintendo are going to take a significant loss on US Switch 2 hardware by just upping the online subscription and making the games more expensive lol.
Yous voted Trump as you're president (even though he was the laughing stock of the world and countries warned you's against voting him) so yous will have to live with the consequences!
@Unit_DTH Nintendo has never sold any console/handheld (including 3DS) at a loss!
The Switch 2 price will obviously go up in price by quite a bit in the USA.
Bizarre the millions of Trump supporters in the USA cheering Trumps tarrifs. Even though they the American consumer will be forced very soon to pay more money for everything!
@anoyonmus Trump has already confirmed the high Veitnam tariffs (even with Veitnam lowering their US tarrifs) will stay!
Lot's of Chinese firms were before these new tarrifs using Vietnam as a backdoor to import goods cheaper into the USA.
Trump is going all out against China. Will backfire as China can easily retaliate in many different ways. Plus the American citizens will soon enough backlash once most of the stuff sold in the USA becomes more expensive!
@Diablo Dude we already know the main specs GPU, RAM, physical games format, DLSS etc.
While obviously not as powerful as a PS5. It will be slightly more powerful than the Steam Deck in handheld mode. But much better optimised. And close to a Xbox Series S in docked mode (with the added benefit of DLSS)
@Banjo- Switch physical games are actually a lot more expensive to manufacture than PS5, Xbox Series X&S, PC games.
As blu ray discs are very cheap to manufacture. Whereas the MicroSD cards that Switch games are on are much more expensive to manufacture.
Nintendo have previously talked about how it's expensive to manufacture the physical games. MicroSD Express cards for the Switch 2 will be even more expensive to manufacture.
@PolitiClank I watched those Digital Foundry videos years ago. And PS4 games load much quicker on the PS5 SSD than they did on the PS4 HHD. But optimization patches made them load even quicker.
Im well aware of decompression. And that the Switch 2 is heavily rumoured to have a custom file decompression block to reduce loading times.
That's upto Nintendo whether transfered digital Switch games put onto a MicroSD Express card on the Switch 2 loads at the quicker MicroSD Express limit on the Switch 2. I personally don't imagine they will bottleneck it but we will have to wait and see.
@OldGamer999 "Would have been a lot better switch 2 reveal the other day if Nintendo would have done console specs and these potential new features etc, a proper console reveal.
Then in April focus on release date, price, preorders and options and of course the games. Nintendo really have not been impressive with the way they did that reveal and switch 2."
Nintendo don't ever deep dive into technical specs like Sony and Microsoft. Most owners never even watched the long boring Cerny technical presentations of the PS5 & PS5 Pro. Their much shorter 3 minutes hardware reveals showing just the consoles no specs got much more views on YouTube etc...
The Nintendo Switch 2 reveal trailer in the first 48 hours got more YouTube views than the Switch, PS5, PS5 Pro reveal trailers. The average console buyer isn't that knowledgeable about specs. They just want better looking and better playing games than the previous system.
@PolitiClank That will be upto each individual developer/publisher if they decide to patch a Switch game to make the loading times quicker on the Switch 2.
Unless Nintendo has done something to automatically enable Switch games to have faster loading times when played on Switch 2.
@VHSGREMLIN Currently isn't any 6TB MicroSD Express cards available. And the price would be very very high. They currently aren't cheap to produce in higher capacities.
@wiiware Switch 2 uses MicroSD Express cards for the Switch 2 physical games and Switch 2 digital downloaded games.
It's upto 9 times faster than the MicroSD cards used in the Switch for both physical and digital downloaded games.
It's not exactly hard to do a google search price comparison of MicroSD Express cards. Though I would stick to reputable brands like SanDisk etc and from reputable stores selling it.
@X68000 physical games on the Switch 2 will much quicker loading times than physical games on the Switch.
As MicroSD Express cards are 9 times faster than the MicroSD cards used for physical Switch games.
On the digital games storage side. MicroSD Express cards have a gigantic 128TB max capacity. Though it would cost tens of thousands if a storage card that size was actually available.
@martynstuff You personally don't want Nintendo to release the Switch 2 in March or April 2025 for you're own situation. But that is selfish as millions of people would buy Switch 2 if it goes on sale in March or April!
I've just moved flat. Spent over £500 just on paint, ladder, brushes etc. And will need to spend thousands on Cooker, washing machine, flooring, sofa etc.
But I'm not vain selfish to wish Nintendo only release the Switch 2 when my financial situation is more stable.
Ps. Nintendo structure completely changed after the Switch. And times have changed from the reveal and release of consoles 6 + months later. Internet hype builds up extremely quickly, you don't need a long gap between reveal and release anymore. Ie if Nintendo reveals Switch 2 in January then a release in March or April is realistic.
@Serpenterror "When Nintendo revealed the Switch back in 2016, they didn't reveal any games for it either. The only games that kinda got reveal were the ones they used during the reveal trailer which they probably may do again for Switch 2." - You're contradicting yourself by saying Nintendo didn't reveal any Switch games & also saying they did reveal Switch games. Fact is on October 20th 2016 the very first Switch reveal trailer Nintendo showed both the Switch hardware and several Switch games. BOTW, Mario Kart 8, Super Mario Odyssey, Skyrm, NBA 2K etc and others were all shown. The Switch 2 reveal trailer isn't going to just show Switch 2 hardware and no games lol. Nintendo never dives deep on technical hardware information. They are about the games gameplay.
1. I think at this point a next generation Switch that is more powerful is what everyone wanted, this is not going to be a confusing mess like the Wii U generation. The dumb casual audience during the Wii U era aren't even here anymore. - Agree there. Apart from Switch does have quite a lot of casual owners who also own a PlayStation/PC.
2. Those are fakes, not leaks. There's a difference. Leak means the legit product was seen or reveal without Nintendo's approval, it could be a sneak peek or just an accidental citing. Fakes are products others made up to predict what the legit ones may or may not look like. - C'mon bro don't be niave. We have seen what the Switch 2 looks like including the dock joycons.
3. The exclusives games will be announce when the launch date for the console is near, not when the console just got reveal. - Again Super Mario Odyssey got revealed in the original Switch trailer on 20th October 2016. It didn't get revealed just before the Switch went on sale to the public in 2017!
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Re: Nintendo Of America President Says Tariffs "Not Factored" Into Switch 2 Price
@MSaturn Nintendo has never sold any console/handheld at a loss! You are clutching at straws if you think Nintendo are going to take a significant loss on US Switch 2 hardware by just upping the online subscription and making the games more expensive lol.
Yous voted Trump as you're president (even though he was the laughing stock of the world and countries warned you's against voting him) so yous will have to live with the consequences!
Re: Nintendo Of America President Says Tariffs "Not Factored" Into Switch 2 Price
@Unit_DTH Nintendo has never sold any console/handheld (including 3DS) at a loss!
The Switch 2 price will obviously go up in price by quite a bit in the USA.
Bizarre the millions of Trump supporters in the USA cheering Trumps tarrifs. Even though they the American consumer will be forced very soon to pay more money for everything!
Re: Nintendo Of America President Says Tariffs "Not Factored" Into Switch 2 Price
@anoyonmus Trump has already confirmed the high Veitnam tariffs (even with Veitnam lowering their US tarrifs) will stay!
Lot's of Chinese firms were before these new tarrifs using Vietnam as a backdoor to import goods cheaper into the USA.
Trump is going all out against China. Will backfire as China can easily retaliate in many different ways. Plus the American citizens will soon enough backlash once most of the stuff sold in the USA becomes more expensive!
Re: Don't Worry, Nintendo's Thinking About Affordability With Switch 2 Pricing
@Diablo Dude we already know the main specs GPU, RAM, physical games format, DLSS etc.
While obviously not as powerful as a PS5. It will be slightly more powerful than the Steam Deck in handheld mode. But much better optimised. And close to a Xbox Series S in docked mode (with the added benefit of DLSS)
Re: Don't Worry, Nintendo's Thinking About Affordability With Switch 2 Pricing
@Banjo- Switch physical games are actually a lot more expensive to manufacture than PS5, Xbox Series X&S, PC games.
As blu ray discs are very cheap to manufacture. Whereas the MicroSD cards that Switch games are on are much more expensive to manufacture.
Nintendo have previously talked about how it's expensive to manufacture the physical games. MicroSD Express cards for the Switch 2 will be even more expensive to manufacture.
Re: Lexar Is Apparently Releasing A Switch 2 'microSD Express' Card
@PolitiClank I watched those Digital Foundry videos years ago. And PS4 games load much quicker on the PS5 SSD than they did on the PS4 HHD. But optimization patches made them load even quicker.
Im well aware of decompression. And that the Switch 2 is heavily rumoured to have a custom file decompression block to reduce loading times.
That's upto Nintendo whether transfered digital Switch games put onto a MicroSD Express card on the Switch 2 loads at the quicker MicroSD Express limit on the Switch 2. I personally don't imagine they will bottleneck it but we will have to wait and see.
Re: Lexar Is Apparently Releasing A Switch 2 'microSD Express' Card
@OldGamer999 "Would have been a lot better switch 2 reveal the other day if Nintendo would have done console specs and these potential new features etc, a proper console reveal.
Then in April focus on release date, price, preorders and options and of course the games.
Nintendo really have not been impressive with the way they did that reveal and switch 2."
The Nintendo Switch 2 reveal trailer in the first 48 hours got more YouTube views than the Switch, PS5, PS5 Pro reveal trailers. The average console buyer isn't that knowledgeable about specs. They just want better looking and better playing games than the previous system.
Re: Lexar Is Apparently Releasing A Switch 2 'microSD Express' Card
@PolitiClank That will be upto each individual developer/publisher if they decide to patch a Switch game to make the loading times quicker on the Switch 2.
Unless Nintendo has done something to automatically enable Switch games to have faster loading times when played on Switch 2.
Re: Lexar Is Apparently Releasing A Switch 2 'microSD Express' Card
@VHSGREMLIN Currently isn't any 6TB MicroSD Express cards available. And the price would be very very high. They currently aren't cheap to produce in higher capacities.
Re: Lexar Is Apparently Releasing A Switch 2 'microSD Express' Card
@wiiware Switch 2 uses MicroSD Express cards for the Switch 2 physical games and Switch 2 digital downloaded games.
It's upto 9 times faster than the MicroSD cards used in the Switch for both physical and digital downloaded games.
It's not exactly hard to do a google search price comparison of MicroSD Express cards. Though I would stick to reputable brands like SanDisk etc and from reputable stores selling it.
Re: Lexar Is Apparently Releasing A Switch 2 'microSD Express' Card
@X68000 physical games on the Switch 2 will much quicker loading times than physical games on the Switch.
As MicroSD Express cards are 9 times faster than the MicroSD cards used for physical Switch games.
On the digital games storage side. MicroSD Express cards have a gigantic 128TB max capacity. Though it would cost tens of thousands if a storage card that size was actually available.
Re: Rumour: 'Switch 2' Will Reportedly Be Officially Revealed This Thursday
@johnvboy Switch does have more casual owners than hardcore Nintendo owners who have owned Nintendo systems since childhood.
Not a bad thing as Nintendo are booming with Switch, theme parks, movies etc. In a very healthy financial situation.
It will enable Nintendo to continue to keep making excellent first party games exclusively on Nintendo systems for a long time to come....
Re: Rumour: 'Switch 2' Will Reportedly Be Officially Revealed This Thursday
@martynstuff You personally don't want Nintendo to release the Switch 2 in March or April 2025 for you're own situation. But that is selfish as millions of people would buy Switch 2 if it goes on sale in March or April!
I've just moved flat. Spent over £500 just on paint, ladder, brushes etc. And will need to spend thousands on Cooker, washing machine, flooring, sofa etc.
But I'm not vain selfish to wish Nintendo only release the Switch 2 when my financial situation is more stable.
Ps. Nintendo structure completely changed after the Switch. And times have changed from the reveal and release of consoles 6 + months later. Internet hype builds up extremely quickly, you don't need a long gap between reveal and release anymore. Ie if Nintendo reveals Switch 2 in January then a release in March or April is realistic.
Re: Rumour: 'Switch 2' Will Reportedly Be Officially Revealed This Thursday
@Serpenterror "When Nintendo revealed the Switch back in 2016, they didn't reveal any games for it either. The only games that kinda got reveal were the ones they used during the reveal trailer which they probably may do again for Switch 2." - You're contradicting yourself by saying Nintendo didn't reveal any Switch games & also saying they did reveal Switch games. Fact is on October 20th 2016 the very first Switch reveal trailer Nintendo showed both the Switch hardware and several Switch games. BOTW, Mario Kart 8, Super Mario Odyssey, Skyrm, NBA 2K etc and others were all shown. The Switch 2 reveal trailer isn't going to just show Switch 2 hardware and no games lol. Nintendo never dives deep on technical hardware information. They are about the games gameplay.
1. I think at this point a next generation Switch that is more powerful is what everyone wanted, this is not going to be a confusing mess like the Wii U generation. The dumb casual audience during the Wii U era aren't even here anymore. - Agree there. Apart from Switch does have quite a lot of casual owners who also own a PlayStation/PC.
2. Those are fakes, not leaks. There's a difference. Leak means the legit product was seen or reveal without Nintendo's approval, it could be a sneak peek or just an accidental citing. Fakes are products others made up to predict what the legit ones may or may not look like. - C'mon bro don't be niave. We have seen what the Switch 2 looks like including the dock joycons.
3. The exclusives games will be announce when the launch date for the console is near, not when the console just got reveal. - Again Super Mario Odyssey got revealed in the original Switch trailer on 20th October 2016. It didn't get revealed just before the Switch went on sale to the public in 2017!
Re: Rumour: Switch Successor Might Not Be Launching Until 2025
@NinjaNicky The Tegra X1 wasn't 5 years old when the Switch released in 2017 🤡
The Tegra X1 was announced in 2015 by Nvidia and first launched May 2015 in the Nvidia Sheild 👍🏾
Re: Rumour: Switch Successor Might Not Be Launching Until 2025
@Max_the_German The next 3D Mario game isn't going to be cross gen! It will release exclusively for the Switch sucessor.
The only major Nintendo game coming to the Switch is Metroid Prime 4 which will be cross gen releasing for the Switch and Switch sucessor.
Re: Talking Point: What Will The 'Switch 2' Actually Be Called?
@DanElectrode It isn't going to have a second screen.
Nintendo are actively trying to get 3rd party developers to bring more AAA games....
2 screens makes it much harder to port AAA 3rd party games to the Switch sucessor!
Re: Talking Point: What Will The 'Switch 2' Actually Be Called?
@Hwatt The Switch Pro got cancelled. The Switch sucessor is a proper successor, not a Pro version!
Re: Talking Point: What Will The 'Switch 2' Actually Be Called?
@Ryu_Niiyama Xbox has been getting slaughtered by Nintendo and PlayStation for many years.
because Nintendo and PlayStation are simply much more popular globally than Xbox brand!
Even if the PS5 was called something else it would still be whipping Xbox Series X&S in hardware sales!
Re: Talking Point: What Will The 'Switch 2' Actually Be Called?
@stuie1234 Those rumours were simply clickbait and people who were nostalgic for the DS & 3DS!
2 screens is a definite no for the Switch sucessor. The big 3rd party games aren't going to come with 2 screens.
2 screens means developers will struggle to port AAA 3rd party games to the Switch sucessor. So not going to happen!
Re: Talking Point: What Will The 'Switch 2' Actually Be Called?
@sevex Very unlikely as the Switch sucessor isn't dual screen like a DS!
Or do you have some other idea why it would be called Flip?