As exciting as new console launches are, it's become increasingly difficult in recent years to secure certain systems on release. Sony's PlayStation 5 was hugely impacted by this coming off the pandemic, so how will it be for Nintendo's Switch successor this many years on?
Bloomberg has released a new report about the possible shipment data for the Switch 2 in the first year of its life, and according to Robin Zhu - an analyst at Sanford C. Bernstein, Nintendo's supply chain is ready to sell more than 20 million units in 2025.
In comparison, the original Switch shifted around 15 million units in its opening year, but the Switch 2 launch will now be nearly a decade later. During the Switch's beginnings, the company was also still recovering from its troubled Wii U generation all while extending the life of its 3DS just in case.
Now that the Switch has proven itself (shifting over 146 million units globally), there's likely a lot more confidence within Nintendo about the system's successor - so if this figure from Bloomberg's source is accurate, hopefully, it means we don't have to worry as much about acquiring these new hybrid units when the release date is announced and pre-orders go live.
Of course, one thing we also don't know just yet is the price of the Switch 2 - which will likely be a deciding factor for many fans. There have already been all sorts of price estimates and predictions based on the rumoured technology inside of Nintendo's new hardware, so hopefully the upcoming Direct presentation confirms this.
Are you hoping to pre-order or just generally purchase a Switch 2 in the first year, or will you be holding off? Let us know.
[source bloomberg.com, via bsky.app]
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I will wait until there is White color bundle of Switch 2 with White skinned Joy Cons with blue bezel on it.
Never wanna get white joycons ever again. They're not horrible- but they end up discolored easily from oils on the hands.
@VoidofLight I got well over a year of heavy use out of my white pair before they needed replacing but they still look just as white as the day I got them.
I hope there's a model with Super Fami style buttons, give me colour please!!
@BenAV Mine is starting to yellow for some reason. Genuinely have no clue why.
I have quite a bit of Best Buy credit, so I figure why not get one?
On the other hand, I could just as easily say why rush… but I’d probably rather play my switch backlog on a switch 2.
@VoidofLight my super nes and super famicom both yellowed from sunlight. Could be that, or your hands! My ps5 controller is a little yellowy, and I haven’t even played it that much.
I was going to wait for Ring Fit Adventure 2 to be announced but I might cave and get one right away for Halo/Elden Ring/etc.
I’m kinda disappointed that Ring Fit won’t be compatible due to the new joy cons not being able to slot into the ring but as long as they’re working on a new fitness game it’s fine. It’ll definitely make it tough to put the Switch into storage though…
i might hold off if theres only the black model at launch. that one ai loser said there was an mk9 edition system in the works, which im hoping means coloured joycons. but yeah idk, my switch has terrible battery capacity and the loading times have really been getting to me so i may just brave the black joycons if thats the only launch option
Hopefully there is more then enough stock available to get one. It would also help if stores only sell one per person the first months to try and combat the scalpers.
I’m hoping that these new joycons hold up a bit better than the old ones. You see, I love to coat my hands in a yellow, oleaginous substance and then grab and manipulate objects for hours on end. My poor white joycons are quite soiled!
I hope we get 512GB and/or 1TB versions. And much better standby battery performance than now. My Switch Lite goes from 100% to 30% in sleep mode in just a few days
@dojmin
I hear the internal storage is a strict 256GB of flash memory. I imagine when the inevitable OLED edition releases a bump in storage capacity might be on the table.
I will pre-order if they can confirm that at least 75% of my back catalog is playable. I held off on an OLED so I would feel good about upgrading to the Switch2 at launch. Oh, and it needs to hit that $399.99 USD price point (or less).
Looking at the OLED which is going on Nintendo's website for €350 in a bundle with Mario Kart I'm guessing the switch 2 will be at the very least that. Or more likely €450 + with some extras on top of the console.
You have to wonder what the production costs were and if they will sell it at a loss. I don't think they have a history of that? But correct me if I'm wrong. Given they have reportedly had 20m units manufactured (in China judging by the leaks) unit costs are probably exceedingly low. So we might be surprised by the price.
Personally I will drop for that no matter the price and I am tempted to buy whatever launch titles there are within reason: I don't care for CoD for example if that comes.
What about everybody else? Is there a limit for you on price? Or specific deals you want - like colours, bundles, games etc that will make or break your decision?
@WhiteTrashGuy 256GB is really bad.
Especially if the storage space of the carts has been increased several fold.
That would definitely cut down on the shelf price though: but the inevitable SD cards will rack up additional costs.
I'll buy it on launch if it's $400, more than that I think I'll wait for a price cut and play my backlog switch games first.
Usually I wait for price drops but this time I think I'll bite the bullet and secure one at launch. I just need to see the launch price first.
@VoidofLight
Exactly!
I also have the oled. Every dust particle is visible haha even tho i love the device. So i am happy with the color it has now. Silky smooth.
Day one purchase, if i can get my hands on it.
One of the few good things about working in retail, I can lay-buy the Switch 2 and get 10% off.
Well, as soon as pre-orders open, I'll get one. Never had problems with getting a Nintendo console day 1, so I doubt I'll have any this time around. Plus I think Nintendo is well prepared for the launch, as well.
@WhiteTrashGuy Hopefully that it's significantly higher than 75%. I get stuff like Labo or Ring Fit that have accessories made for the original Switch/Joy-Con or the few games that actually used the IR sensor (I assume that's gone?) not being playable on the Switch 2 but I don't see why I shouldn't be able to play the rest of my Switch backlog on Switch 2.
Will more than likely attempt to pre order one.
That said it all depends on the launch games, if it launches with a new 3D Mario game and or Mario kart 9 then I'm 100% on board.
If not I'll probably wait.
I did manage to get a day 1 Switch but as I'm not a Zelda fan I didn't really have much to play on it, once the Novelty of being able to "Switch" wore off so it felt a little bit of a waste to begin with
@Dazman Nintendo never sells at a lost, they always make sure they get a profit of their products. 450 sounds like a good price, don't really have a limit. I bought a PS3 for 600 so everything under that is great. As long as the launch games are great.
The storage space should be more then 256 GB. Especially for third party games. Nintendo always fits everything on the game cards but those need to be bigger to this time. Those leaked prices for 70-80€ games might not be so far-fetched.
I won’t be getting one until there’s an OLED version.
Anyone catch anything about switch pro controller.
Can we use existing or is there a new one?
The thing is, no matter how many units you manufacture, this isn't going to stop the scalpers. They are just going to end up snapping up that much more Switch 2s before legitimate customers can get their hands on them.
This is where we need laws that get tough on scalpers and online resellers like eBay who allow these scalpers to continue their activities unabated. Fine the resellers and jail the scalpers. Basically, make it so painful to scalp anything that no one wants to do it anymore or allow it to happen.
Furthermore, all consoles, games, and accessories (including limited-edition items) must be able to be preordered in-person instead of being online-only; I missed out on quite a few things during the Switch era because the preorders were online-only instead of in-person.
I don't plan to buy a Switch 2 anytime soon unless it has a game I really want to play.
I also agree with the comments above, scalpers are going to be the main issue when it comes to getting a hold of the console in the first place.
I'm guessing they have probably stopped production of the standard Switch 1 at this point.
From what I’m reading the release is June onwards as there is still hands on experiences happening in May.
So I’m thinking if Nintendo wait until June, July or even August to release they will have hard work beating the switch 1 sales number due to few months in that financial year post launch.
I 100% feel that early adopters will be fans only and families won’t come onboard for a long time (probably not even considering to purchase at Xmas).
First year numbers from fan purchases end of 1st year 10-15mil but slow and poor sales to follow as the families can’t justify the outlay for something in their eyes is exactly the same.
Regardless of price, I’ll be waiting for at least a year to get the Switch 2. The first batch always has lots of problems. Also, there’s a distinct possibility of a hardware revision in a year’s time… it’s Nintendo we’re talking about, after all. Maybe this time things will be different, since they are reportedly producing a huge amount of units, but as the saying goes, better safe than sorry.
One for me please!
I will definitely be buying one and put it on a shelf for a bit. Once the hacks and jailbreaks arrive, I'll unbox it
As I've skipped the PS5 after PS4, hopefully this will be my next console purchase as I've built up a large digital Library. I hope the screen options are going to be comparable to the current OLED though.
I'm honestly unsure if I'll be pre-ordering it like the OG switch. That may depend on the hands-on event, if I can try it and really can't resist.
Now, if new games like Bayonetta, ARMS and Silksong are exclusives to Switch 2, I will have to have one ASAP, no matter the price. Otherwise games will always be available and I'll wait for an OLED version or a special edition.
Too early to tell. Let's wait and see...
@cosmograph its rumoured you can still connect the joycons on switch 2 but you just cannot charge them because they won't connect to the switch.
I will deffo be getting this day one. So many games I would love to see with better performance. Also if it's true about upscaling to 1440p there is so many games I already have that I can't wait to play again
Here is a top secret insider tip: just wait 2 or 3 years, Nintendo will release a better version aka DS-Lite, Switch OLED. Plus the games released in the interim will be cheaper then.
@Sequel I remember when I first got a ps1, it had a demo tech disc and I remember a the t-rex demo. That was amazing.
Im kinda hoping this new mario kart is free and is basically f-zero 99, battle royale.
@jesse_dylan
The yellowing in plastic products of that era was down to a fire retardant chemical within many electrical appliances and childrens toys which often aged white plastic visibly more over a course of time.
I do believe they stopped using it eventually?
One was Brominated flame retardant (BFR) Chemicals like polybrominated diphenyl ethers (PBDEs) another was Antimony trioxide, another common flame retardant additive.
Ofcourse there are other reasons a plastic may yellow, but many will find their products yellowed even when not expose to sunlight etc. This is why.
I am hoping for no more than £400 UK money. I think £379.99 would be ideal.
Switch 2 - £379.99
Switch OLED - £309.99
Switch - £259.99
Switch Lite - £199.99
They will easily reach these numbers if they reveal enough good third party support.
@PushMyGran86 That Mario Kart will likely cost $70
@PushMyGran86 Mario Kart 9 bundled in free with Switch 2. That’s actually a great idea.
@SwitchplayerJohn Mario Kart 9 $70. Yeah probably.
@NeoGee This time, I think it's unlikely for your console to see the light of the day and breathe "atmosphere"...but who knows ?
@Anti-Matter I think third-party customizables will come out for the Switch 2 soon enough. You'll be able to get this result whichever bundle you buy
If they plan on making/shipping that many, I assume the year 1 lineup will be pretty excellent. And I plan on being there day one, like I was with Switch.
I pre-ordered mine on shopto this morning
@SwitchplayerJohn if it's not a full game and maybe just like f-zero 99.
@ibookboyuk It’s a nice idea but not a great one. They’d be leaving a ton of money on the table.
I have no confidence I will be able to get a Switch 2 day one no matter how many Nintendo ships out, the demand for this console is going to insane and the bots/scalpers will be out in full force
@Lightsiyd
When I want White bundle, not only the Joy Cons color are White, but also the body tablet.
White Joy Cons, White body tablet with a little bit neon Blue color.
Price is king! Talk all you like about specs, improvements, new games blah blah it’s all about the pricing of the console and in these tough times getting people to move on from older hardware is a challenge.
HMV said that DVDS still outsell Blu-rays and 4k Blu-rays, why? DVDs are still cheaper than the latter. Sony and Microsoft have found it hard to get people to move on to their latest generation of consoles even Apple had to turn off older iPhone models to get users to upgrade! Microsoft struggled to get millions to move off Windows XP up until they shut it down last year hundreds of millions of computers were still using it.
As others have said if Nintendo can keep this around £299 - £399 they have a winner on their hands. Pricing is the most important factor for the Switch 2’s release and success.
With my 150+ NS games backlog, I think I'll hold off from being an early adopter of the NS2. I'll probably give it a year or two to allow for others to discover inevitable hardware issues that will no doubt arise.
I'll be 1 of those 20 million. Ready to buy right now.
Im not in a big rush to buy one so I will probably wait to pick one up later this year. Unless a new mainline Zelda game launches this year (which is highly unlikely), I can wait. Also there are much more powerful handheld gaming PCs on the horizon so keeping an eye on those
Yep, I can just imagine everyone running to purchase the new switch 2, which has not much better specs capability than switch 1, as evidenced by the quality of the mario kart we saw.
Scalpers will inevitably ruin this no matter how many units Nintendo makes.
@Tipehtfomottob Same. I'm content with my OLED. I'll get a revised Switch 2 which is pretty much inevitable
A respectable amount although Switch 2 could sell even more than that and so need more units depending on how many people will be willing to upgrade this year also according to the price as mentioned by the article (doubt it will be particularly high, €399 or at most €449 makes the most sense to me).
Regardless, hope most of those interested - absolutely me included, hopefully my usual retailer here in Italy will have it and even better if slightly discounted - will be able to get it instead of scalpers!
@1UP-HUSKY
WiiU sold at a loss.
They said that a WiiU and 2 games was when they started earning a profit
2 key factors for buying day one:
Games
Price
As much as I have the possibility to grab one immediately, still, don't see the reason to do so if there aren't any games making me wanna buy it right away, same thing with price. Other factors may be colors available and/or versions. April seems so far away now
I believe I've gotten every Nintendo home console day one since the GameCube. Now that it looks they will have a lot to sell, I don't think that will change!
I'm personally in no huge rush to buy one unless my V2 Switch suddenly conks out. I don't buy systems at launch so that some of the potential bugs can be worked out first. I can be swayed by exclusives and pricing however....
I don’t understand why so many people are in a rush to buy hardware. Don’t we buy these things to play games? We’ve seen 10 seconds of 1 game and we don’t even know all that much about it. Could be free to play, could be 2 years away, could be on Switch. 🤷🏻♂️
I bought my Wii U along with “release window” game Pikmin 3, which came out in August, after the console launched in November. I bought my Switch in the Mario Odyssey bundle in October after the Switch launched in March.
We don’t know when Switch 2 will launch except 2025 after April. We don’t know the price. We don’t know the games. We don’t know if the games will be dual releases. I was able to wait on Switch until October in part b/c we bought Zelda BotW on Wii U.
Will we get a Switch 2? Almost certainly. Am I in a rush to preorder 1? Nintendo couldn’t even be bothered to give us advance notice on a new gen console reveal. A reveal which honestly I’m not even sure we saw an actual Switch 2 in it, the whole thing seemed CG to my family. They couldn’t even bother to have a live human hold an actual physical object.
I’ll wait for the games, and the price, and the release date, before I waste any time thinking about purchasing one.
Scalpers are gonna have to work that much harder!
That's incredibly optimistic lol
@VoidofLight
Its due to sun light.
Twenty million isn't going to be enough for year 1. Looks like scalpers are going to have another field day.
@jesse_dylan I think it might be my hands given I rarely take my Switch into the sun. Either way though, I think I want to go more for a grey look for the next Switch I get.
@silberbauer15 I don't really take my switch out in the sun. Have my blinds closed most of the day since I'm either sleeping or not home for long enough to have them open.
@VoidofLight Probably, although they can yellow just from any UV, i.e. it doesn't have to be direct sunlight or anything. It's funny, because I was hoping for a white one with the Super Famicom button colors--but I guess that was more for the vibe, not for the whiteness. Grey would be pretty neat! Or Famicom colors! But whatever--we don't get to choose so I guess I'll be happy with what i get.
@PushMyGran86 I’d be surprised if that’s true because the new joycons are longer and have a different connecting system. But I hope they will!
@Anti-Matter You can go to the Nintendo account on Twitter and state that you want it. I'm assuming of course, it's not already been confirmed if there will be such a thing.
I hope they just move all the game development to the Switch 2. I'd hate to have crossgen games dragged down by the old switch hardware for several years like Sony did with PS4/5 crossgen games
I'm in for one. By the time it comes out I'll have enough Best Buy credit to pay for it anyway. My day 1 Switch is still going. I replaced the battery recently. I know there will be plenty of Nintendo software that I will want this year and the last two generations haven't had meaningful discounts on hardware that make it worth it to wait. I am hoping that it will give Switch 1 games a boost enough to solve frame rate issues. Also hoping that Metroid Prime 4 will be better on the new hardware.
I would love if they have 40 mils or more units at launch so preorders can happen.
I'll see you in 2026 Switch. I'll let the first wave run out, build up my money, work on my backlog, and I'll be ready by this time next year.
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