Suda51 Unsure If Travis Touchdown Will Return, Admits It's Not His "Call To Make"

We need more Travis Touchdown.

I say let it die. Very overrated IMO.

RIP then, the moment you let a corp own your creation then that creation is as good as dead.

@Vyacheslav333 After 3, no, we don't.

I'm good, thanks. Nothing that's come after 2 has really been worth reviving the series for.

I mean I love the character, but I think he's had his time. I would be just "okay" with another game. Thanks TT.

Surprised by some of the comments, I thought NMH3 was really good and totally agree with NLs 8/10 review. Would love to have more of Travis.

I really hope his collab w Suda is either very story heavy or atmospheric. Incredibly unpopular opinion, I'm sure, but both of them get a jank pass like Bethesda gets a bug pass because the quirk quotient is so high. I love both Suda and Swery, I'd just like a game from them that didn't feel half-baked in the gameplay department. Yoko Taro figured it out.

1st game was great and memorable. Nice intro to get you into the game mood of bloody violent hack/slash mobs + unique bosses. The open world was empty though. Fighting Henry at the motel is still one of my fav boss fights in the series.

2nd game improved overall combat/looks, but deleted the open world for plain menus and frustrating as hell retro minigames instead of just improving the open world. Let you play multiple characters notably in certain levels.

3rd game was a mixed bag. Combat was interesting with the glove, but in some ways was a step back from 2nd game notably the beam saber styles.

Bosses overall also felt…not as fun compared to last two games.

Open world comes back again with more exploring, but still has same issues from first game. Also despite multiple other characters besides Travis appearing, we gone back to just playable Travis.

I loved NMH3 on first play but I played it again recently on Steam Deck and now that the novelty of a new NMH game has gone I can say the issues were far more glaring the second time round. Still enjoyed it but the open world is pretty awful, the same handful of locations in the smaller fight missions gets repetitive quickly and the ranked matches just being straight to the boss fight with no “level” proceeding it was a huge step down from past games.

Still a lot to love but I hope if we get another game they ditch the open world again, seems like waste of time for something so uninteresting

After NMH 3 Im personally fine with no 4th one. I felt it was the worst of the 3 by a long way, the open world was really bad and the combat was a big step down from the 2nd. The fights were also way too focused on gimmicks than being actual fun fights

@larryisaman Agreed. The mediocrity of the overworlds really drag down all the NMH games. If they did make a NMH 4, I wouldn’t buy it unless this was greatly improved.

3 was easily the weakest game of the series, and I certainly agree with the open worlds of these games - they’ve never been great at all - and the combat was not as enjoyable as it had previously been.

But my main flaw with the third entry was the writing and setting in general. I never took to the whole alien theme and feel like it totally detracted from the human and sometimes tragic stories of the other assassins. Also, for Travis now being a middle-aged man, I really expected something in terms of genuine character development by this point. He’s still the exact same as he was in the first game. I expected a more world-weary and mature outlook, with some signature one-liners and toilet humour thrown in, but we get nothing of the sort and it felt like a missed opportunity in an already average game.

@arabiansanchez I’d rather they just ditch open world altogether like 2. I appreciate that 3 likely didn’t have a massive budget but in that case they should have put their money and time into other areas of the game that seemed to suffer as a result of the overworld. I know there’s a case to be made that it’s a Suda meta joke of how bland and lifeless many open world games can be but I don’t think it’s worth hampering the fun of the game if that’s really the case, especially when that “joke” has already been made

Tbh they barely knew what to do with him in nmh3.... Nothing made sense....

At least nmh1-2 had a coherent set of events and story ...... 3 was all over the place unpolished and etc....

I liked NMH3 for what it was.

Felt like an okay AA game that needed some more time

I wouldn't mind seeing a 4th game with his kids.

They foreshadowed a 4th could come

A Juliet Starling and Travis Touchdown crossover game would be a nice idea…

If No More Heroes goes back to form to the tune of NMH 2 instead of whatever NMH 3 tried to be, I'm all for it.

@Lady_rosalina Unpolished, tried to replicate Netflix that got old real fast, incoherent story...

I just... I mean, I bought it again on super clearance sale at Best Buy not too long ago just to say I have the trilogy, but ehhhhhhh

@larryisaman Yeah, I’m aware of the ‘joke’ but it’s not a funny joke, is it? The overworlds are just bad.

I’d be up for a change of direction in future; I’d rather keep the action going and be rid of it all together, yeah 👍🏻

Nah, screw every naysayer. NMH is great, in general. 1, 2, strikes back, and 3. Thank god for those games.

Don’t need him to come back, Travis Touchdown lives rent-free in my heart.

Pretty certain the end of 3 implied a pretty solid end for Tavis to stop at.

However, this NMH, so I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see the story get even more ridiculous and use that end as leverage to get him to return.

I immediately think of it being involved with Destroyman.

No More Heroes 3 let me down a little bit, too self-referential to Suda's other works without giving the story much of a leg to stand on. Combat was good but I rarely come back to it.

I'd rather Suda try his hand at another original title.

I think No More Heroes 1 was the best (good balance between overworld, combat, story, style etc.) . NMH2 was good too (overworld lacking, but better mini games). Travis Strikes Again was underrated imo as I enjoyed it for what it was, but I understand why a lot of people didn’t like it (repetitive, bland)- still stylish and enjoyed the NES style storytelling though. NMH3 was ok, nothing special about it. Felt like a step back in a lot of ways for the Franchise despite bringing back the overworld (it was largely useless and a bore).

I still love the Franchise though so I’d welcome a NMH4. Just hope they’d take their time with it to make some more improvements/growth you’d expect from a 4th entry.

The first 2 NHM games are some of my favorites of all time but I'm ok with Suda moving on. Not having the budget to include additional playable characters or beam katanas or levels was a huge issue for the game. After NMH3 I think it's clear the character has run it's course. Which is fine not every series needs 5+ games.

I would rather he invests time into games that he owns the IP for so there's no licensing issues.

@MirrorFate2 I meant Travis himself, not just No More Heroes games only.

@cartunecartune
Seconded

I love NMH but I think 3 was a fitting end to the series.

I'd love to see a fourth sine NMH 1-3 are all among my favorite action games, but, if it doesn't happen, at least 3 provides enough closure to the story.

Let's not. NMH3, just like Bayonetta 3, was incredibly mediocre and ruined my image of the franchise.
NMH1 was okay, NMH2 was perfect. NMH3? It's a like Neflix Scheiße-adaptation of the franchise. Do I really need to explain?

I have no prob with Trav coming back. I still feel like NMH is the culmination of everything that makes a Suda51 game. I'll take a movie, a series... don't care. Just more Travis, same voice actor.

I got bored playing the third one, and Travis strikes again too. I'm fine with them moving on and doing something new, building on and developing their style with something original.