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And let's be honest, with the success of the Switch era systems and forward compatibility, I wouldn't expect the Switch 2 eShop to be shut down for decades. Like, 2045 or 2050. I'll be about to retire at that point. Approaching that end of life period.
And at that point I'll have a Switch 5 anyways and will be playing Metroid Prime 8 (or perhaps still waiting on Metroid Prime 5- we shall see), and Switch 2 games will all have been remastered and remade on more recent Switch consoles.
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Gamestop has a 1TB mSD Express for preorder that's $149.99 ($142 if you're a pro member) and free shipping. Ya it's the cost of 2 games but hey, ya gotta have storage for video game consoles nowadays. I had to take my Steamdeck OLED apart and clone the 1TB NVMe drive to a 2TB drive then put a 2TB mSD in to have enough space for PC games. It sucks but it's kinda non-negotiable unless you only play 1st party.
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And let's be honest, with the success of the Switch era systems and forward compatibility, I wouldn't expect the Switch 2 eShop to be shut down for decades. Like, 2045 or 2050. I'll be about to retire at that point. Approaching that end of life period.
4. Game Key Card: WHAT? A dummy card that need the whole game to be downloaded as a digital. You will have to have the cartridge inserted to play even though the game is digital.
It’s a good idea until you can’t access your account to download the game.
@ZeldaFan83 As far as we know, you only need to access the account to download it the first time - after that you just insert the cart to play - like you would do if you bought it digitally. It's not streaming the game.
@ZeldaFan83 As far as we know, you only need to access the account to download it the first time - after that you just insert the cart to play - like you would do if you bought it digitally. It's not streaming the game.
@ZeldaFan83 Fair enough. I assumed you'd misunderstood as it seems like an odd complaint if you know your going to need to download the game from the outset - whether that's buying it digitally, or a Game Key Card - from what we've seen so far, the box art seems pretty clear a download is required. Do you often not have access to your online account?
@NintendoWife Come to think of it, there are some indies I'd love to get in physical format, if these give them an option to sell their games physically without resorting to Limited Run Games and the like, I'll take it. That way my money is more likely to go directly to them if bought this way.
@Ryu_Niiyama I agree, we're all angry about the costs of Switch 2, which is due to Nintendo catching up with the others (something almost everyone wanted them to do), but let's be real for a moment, if you were expecting that catch up to be cheap, then I don't know what to tell you.
It's easy to point at Nintendo for ruining the industry in this moment with the prices, but the reality is that it has been ruined since the moment big companies made multiple, expensive editions of a single game, added microtransancations (sometimes macrotransactions, as in microtransactions of $100) and lootboxes to games and made them live services, which has resulted in studios closures and layoffs of those that aren't responsible of those bad decisions.
I don't know if these are the words I want to say, but I believe gaming is starting to get a little too big for it's own good.
It's easy to point at Nintendo for ruining the industry in this moment with the prices, but the reality is that it has been ruined since the moment big companies made multiple, expensive editions of a single game, added microtransancations (sometimes macrotransactions, as in microtransactions of $100) and lootboxes to games and made them live services, which has resulted in studios closures and layoffs of those that aren't responsible of those bad decisions.
I don't know if these are the words I want to say, but I believe gaming is starting to get a little too big for it's own good.
I agree with this overall. I think Nintendo pushing the envelope of game prices definitely deserves push back and criticism, but the purposefully hyperbolic videos I’ve seen about how ‘Nintendo ruined the industry’ rings super hollow.
Like bros the industry has been declining for a while now. Heck the 70 dollar price tag from this gen, the continuous acquisitions, the shut down of multiple studios, the predatory practices of several MTX focused games, and so on.
The price bump and nickel and diming is dumb and is deserving of ridicule but this is just a continuation of prior trends that people really should’ve opposed much earlier on. At least from my perspective anyways
@HammerGalladeBro I have no issue with the price as of yet. I am in the US so we will see what the Trump Trade War does to the price and my issue won’t be with Nintendo. However I think gaming is reaching an unsustainable period. Games are expensive to make, take a long time to make, require a lot of people to make them, and often can’t take chances anymore because a failure can sink a company. Yet consumers expect gaming to darn near be free or not adjust for inflation. Even though gaming is often less expensive or stagnant in price over the past few decades. Gaming is going to hit a wall eventually if this keeps up. I feel that is part of the reason Nintendo is diversifying so strongly into more non gaming sources of revenue. Plus while movies aren’t the same as games, I suspect given cutscenes in games and general storyboarding there is some overlap if Nintendo had to exit gaming and become an animation company. They are an entertainment company first and foremost so they will pivot where needed.
I had always hoped gaming would get as diverse as comic books (which have their own stagnation mind you) but often companies circle the same ideas because it pays the bills. At least Nintendo (and a few other devs) like to take chances or be silly and fun in between the breadwinners.
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@ZeldaFan83 Fair enough. I assumed you'd misunderstood as it seems like an odd complaint if you know your going to need to download the game from the outset - whether that's buying it digitally, or a Game Key Card - from what we've seen so far, the box art seems pretty clear a download is required. Do you often not have access to your online account?
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Serious question, for those who buy alot of digital or go digital only, how many microsd cards do you own? or do you just delete stuff and redownload when needed?
My 128gb card recently filled up and I deleted two games.
I have a 1 TB card. They only cost around $60 right now but sadly won't work on Switch 2 because you need the new much more expensive Express card. I used to have a 512 GB card (currently around $30). Some games are large but most aren't so it took literally 100s of games to fill up my 1 TB. I do occasionally have to archive a game because I refuse to buy the expensive 2TB cards, but I can have a ton of games downloaded at any given time so occasionally redownloading isn't the end of the world. That will get worse for Switch 2 with more large games and more expensive storage for a couple years until the price for Express cards drop; I'm not look forward to having to deal with that.
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This is what Nintendo says about their Key-Cart - People need to take a step back and read what it says not what other people make it out to be.
Unless you delete that saved file from your exSD card or Internal - it will be there the "Key-Cart" is your keys to play the game. This is for multiple family users which makes it family friendly. And if your done you can give away or resell to someone else that wants it. This is what Code-in-the-Box games that you find at stores or online retailer should've started out with.
@Jester676 Still it is a way to cheap out. The reason Nintendo is doing it is to shup up people who argued that the digital only titles or code-in-a-box could not be re-sold.
1. It is cheap and publishers that KNOW their games are not as popular could have slightly higher profits because of key-carts. Let's face it some franchises do not sell 30 million copies, right?
2. This fake-physical is a way for Nintendo to market itself because it will be ON the shelves at the large stores so parents/kids could see it and buy it. They are not like us who get gaming news online.
The problem is that there is NO option for the small dedicated physical collecting gamers.
And people cringe at me when I say I love that Limited Run Games or Super Rare Games are doing ...
They exist because of scummy practices like code-in-a-box / key-carts.
Giving buyers a Key-Cart isn't being cheap you get to resell or give away if you don't want the game anymore since if you don't have the Key-Cart you can't play the game.
1. It's far better then Code-in-Box that's tied to your Nintendo account-NO resell value and no giveaway because your account it tied to the game. They already package it in a box that looks just one that holds the Physical game on the cart minus the download extra or some where you have to download to play the game.
2. There are games that come on 16gb cart and you have to download the rest before you play? Wouldn't that be fake-physical as well?
Key-Cart is the same a Physical game your cart has the license to download the game and must be in the slot to play the game. It's that what a Physical on-cart games does as well. I like what LRG and SRRG is doing haven't check them in sometime here.
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1. Key-cart is cheap because the publishers spend less on the cartridge. They are cheap because they opt in for that to save money = being cheap. If they were not cheap, they would've included a playable build on the cartridge.
2. Yes, 16GB cartridge that requires you to download in order to play is plastic DRM crap.
3. I understand the resell value but after the servers are gone it is useless plastic crap. Also, I do not resell my games because I buy what I like. There are many ways to research if a game is for you before buying blindly.
4. Now at least lazy parents can resell the game because they picked it up at the shop and their kid does not like it. This is the ONLY plus for these releases.
@Zuljaras
1. You can buy eShop Digitally no one is forcing you to get the Key-Cart?
2. We have no ideas what size they will use.
3. There are gamers who finish and no longer want or need the game? That will be their choice at that point.
3a. So when Nintendo closes eShop what will happen to you Digital game? You can't download them anymore but now it's tied to your Nintendo account.
4. That's the option you have what else did you want them to do? Throw it away? They can give/sell it to recoup some of the cost. It not the only plus Key-Cart aren't tied to your Nintendo account.
Does no one read what the Nintendo says about what you can and can not do with Key-Cart.
@Zuljaras
I mean if that's what you want you're already stuffed given that publishers are already releasing games with day 1 mandatory patches, campaigns as a secondary download and the like. At least the key-cards are honest about what they are
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@Zuljaras Physical products can also be crappy product as well so it's not just Digital games. You have a choice here with that Key-Cart isn't tied to your account. Once you download to a exSD cart store that cart away and you can always play on which ever Switch 2 in the future - you can't do that with Switch Digital eShop download it's tied to the account. If you play with the microsd on another Switch you have to register your account on another person Switch to play it. With Key-Cart you just re-download the digital game and start play account on the other Switch 2. It has more flexibility that is being missed here. I might do that get a exSD cart and use the Key-Cart for that purpose and use my other exSD cart for DLC/updates for Physical Cart Switch 2 and Switch 1 games with Switch 2 updates. So then when eShop goes Dark - I can just put my "Key-Cart" exSD into the Switch 2 and keep gaming no more worries, aka like - oh blimmy, I deleted my Digital games no it's safe on my "Key-Cart" exSD whewww...no more downloading it's on my "Only Key-Cart exSD" storage forever.
1. Buy "Key-Cart" game
2. Buy exSD at least 1tb
3. Use #2 that to store downloaded "Key-Cart" games
4. Store away and replace with everyday use exSD for other Switch, Switch 2 games
5. Happy everyday gaming
6. Downside will hot swapp the exSD but only at that not everytime.
7. You can be safe and know that exSD "Key-Cart' is for only those game.
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