
We received an email in our personal inbox the other day – Nintendo was offering 50 points (the My Nintendo Platinum Points rather than eShop coins, unfortunately) in return for completing a survey about Nintendo Switch Online. It seems that the company is seeking hard feedback data on its subscription service, and we’d wager it should prepare for some strong opinions from certain quarters.

Nintendo Switch Online launched in September last year and we think it's fair to say it's had its highs and lows. The exclusive Tetris 99 has been a roaring success, cloud saves were very received and the NES library is a nice bonus, although non-universal cloud save support, patchy online performance and the much-lamented smartphone app are just a few of the areas players have (rightly) found complaint with.
Nintendo’s quarterly financial report dropped earlier this week and boasted a 65.3% increase in digital revenue - the addition of NSO subscriptions to the balance books probably has something to do with that as its earnings get lumped in with all other digital profit. While the service’s low price and moderate perks mean that by the end of March more than 9.8 million people had signed up for it in some capacity, there’s still a large chunk of the 36.87 million Switches in the wild that aren’t subscribed. Company President Shuntaro Furukawa responded to investor questions stating that Nintendo was exploring further ways of highlighting ‘the distinct value of Nintendo Switch Online’ and earlier this week we saw that, starting today, Japanese subscribers will gain temporary access to Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker. For ten days between 1st and 11th August players can enjoy the entire game and all its modes.
A similar Splatoon 2 demo in March (though not Switch Online exclusive) permitted Japanese players to transfer save data to the full game if they chose to buy it afterwards. Today we get the news that these Game Trials are arriving in the west with Mario Tennis Aces from 7th to 13th August. It’s described as being the first of the 'Game Trials programme', so we can expect more games to come. Yet more evidence of the drive to add value to NSO came with the Spirit Board Challenge Pack 1 for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate players, made available exclusively to Switch Online subscribers.
The Spirit Board pack is a small offering to sweeten the pot for Smash fans, but the offering of 10-day unlimited access to a first-party game is a quite clever new way to leverage the company’s existing catalogue to offer subscribers something substantial. Tetris 99 has proved very popular (indeed, it’s getting its own standalone release), but why not supplement new games with temporary ‘Game Pass’-like access to something that’s already finished?

These Game Trials are more than demos, too – unlimited access to the game for a 10-day period is essentially a ‘free’ rental, a way to hook people into games they might not otherwise slap down £50 for. Core gamers can easily blast through the entire game during the trial period while younger or more casual players get a taste of something new. Everyone's a winner.
Except, perhaps, for parents; this window might prove to be something of a double-edged sword if you've got kids. Yes, the little tykes get access to a new game but 10 days later when they haven’t completed it, they’ll be nagging you to buy the thing. Fortunately, Nintendo is offering the game with a 33% discount throughout the trial and for the week following. Crafty!
As devious as this might seem, it’s hard to argue with ‘free’ access to a full games, however temporary. We put ‘free’ in quotation marks because you are, of course, paying for Switch Online. It’s not really free at all, just as all those Netflix and Hulu shows aren’t, but as part of something you’re already paying for, the chance to blast through some first-party Nintendo titles is better than a kick in the teeth.
It’s a long way from what the competition is offering, though, and Nintendo Switch Online is still far from being a Game Pass or PS Plus competitor. Obviously, it’s much cheaper than those products on rival consoles, so a direct comparison is perhaps unfair, but there’s much to improve if Nintendo want to attract and retain paying subscribers, however nominal the $20 annual fee. Offers like this Mario Tennis event are cute, but we’d argue that patchy online performance in games like Super Mario Maker 2 is a more pressing issue and needs addressing if the company is truly serious about building its online service into a strong platform in its own right. We can argue about questionable voice chat solutions, pointless Friends lists and cloud save exceptions until we’re blue in the face, but experiencing lag and disconnect issues in a Mario platformer via a service we’re paying for is something players shouldn’t have to put up with.

Whether these issues are foremost in Nintendo’s mind is unknown, although it’s more than aware that NSO could do with an appeal boost, as the survey we received indicates. Beyond fixing the basics, there are a variety of obvious ways to give the service a shot in the arm. The most blindingly obvious way to from a fan’s perspective is to make SNES games available – an easy win that makes use of existing content. Of course, you can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube, so Nintendo is understandably hesitant to throw them out for ‘free’ while there’s a chance that people will pay just one more time for individual classics like Super Mario World.

More previews from the Game Trial programme would seem to be incoming (it's hardly a 'programme' if it's only one game). Theoretically, this could be extended out to third-party and even indie games in time. The eShop is absolutely crawling with gems that have been overlooked for one reason or another and players are arguably more likely to buy a game in the $5-10 region than a $60 game with a discount. Then again, they're also more likely to have got everything they want from a smaller game during the trial period. We’d obviously want to see this translate into sales to make it worthwhile to smaller developers, but it’s an avenue worth exploring and could help address the eShops discoverability issues.
More exclusives along the lines of Tetris 99 would also be attractive – online experiences that tie into the service itself are a natural fit. Could Nintendo’s mobile offerings do well in a console context or would that muddy the waters too much?
These ideas have potential but also potential pitfalls, and ultimately we’d rather see Nintendo nail the fundamentals first with a better quality technical experience. The door is open, though, for some innovative incentives if the company only has the gumption to invest in truly improving its online offering. Past evidence suggests the path ahead will be a convoluted one involving small steps forward, followed by several backwards, but these recent announcements indicate that there is a bright future ahead for Nintendo Switch Online, if only Nintendo can get out of its own way.
Have you received a Nintendo Switch Online feedback survey? How do you think Nintendo should improve its online service? Would throwing SNES games on there really be enough? Share your thoughts with a comment below.
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I'm not sure about "enough" but SNES games would certainly be a good start!
Playing Mario Maker 2 is more than enough for me.
It’s been over two years since the switch released. So honestly if you want to make switch online better put the &&& &&&& snes games up already.
I think that this is a step in the right direction. But in regards to the game trials program, offer a free game every month and let us keep that free game.until they offer a free game a month with their online subscription like Sony and Microsoft do, I am having nothing to do with this game trials programme.
@DannyBoi I would agree with this but the switch online service is significantly cheaper. If they raise the price to match the competition, then yes we should get free games. I would be okay with switch online if they were releasing a steady flow of retro games. But all we have are nes games that haven’t aged as well as other consoles.
You know, I was JUST saying to myself how quiet the comments have been last couple days.
For an online service (aside from PC which is mostly free) $20 is a bargain compared to Microsofts and Sonys. If you don't play online enough or if your like me you'd rather pay ala carte for classic games you want and not mess with the junk sp editions and awful sports games (I'm looking at you tecmo bowl among others) then no this service sucks. Wouldn't it make more sense to sell the classic games as well just like VC? Then everyone has a fair chance to play the games and they get extra income, just remember our past purchases from last gen since an account system is now in place. Especially since our saves our being held hostages and can't be backed up aside from cloud saves and even then it's only for select titles.
Why are folk so hell bent on trying to turn Nintendo Online into gamepass so we are paying 15 quid a month instead of a year.
I read this on the back of a lollypop stick. Made me chuckle.
Q. How does a Gamepass gamer clear their backlog?
A. They stop subscribing.
Nintendo has a gold mine of appeal in their full back catalog, something no other company can offer.....and they're just sitting on it.
How many more people would sub with all the SNES, GB, GBA games? Not to mention the n64 and CGN?
Forget the Online, cause even without it or cloud saves, I would subscribe to a true retro Netflix-like service of their back catalog and pay more for it than they are charging now.
The 3DS and 3rd party on Switch have better retro selection than what Nintendo is offering on Switch.
@Cotillion Mate, they have to sit on it. If they just splurged everything out, the diminishing returns on that would be mind numbing!
@GrailUK Nah, they have to sit on it because they are Nintendo and if they didn’t make at least one mind scratching decision per console they wouldn’t be Nintendo.
@Airsqueeble I prefer that image
@GrailUK Surely there's a middle ground between splurging everything out and doing a bare minimum trickle of fun-for-5-mins NES games
Another small step towards a the right direction, but I am waiting for better offerings and monthly free games that are your to keep
It’s cheap and I hope it stays cheap. I don’t play online games a lot hence the family subscription as someone in the family is making use of it. When I do I’ll be on
Rocket league
Smash
Spla2oon
Mario maker 2
Mario kart 8
Mario tennis (favourite online quickie)
It’s a step in the right direction I guess, but miles behind what Sony and Microsoft have to offer
I'm happy they are doing something but I feel this strategy is going to backfire. If I got a free rental of Kirby, arms, aces tennis, yoshi, captain toad then that would be a lot less games I would have purchased. They're better off giving away ones games that no one wants to pay $10 anymore for. But that's just my opinion.
I pay to play games online, same as with PS4 and Xbox. Everything else is a bonus.
Plus here is something a lot of people seem to ignore that isn't even part of the subscription (as far as I am aware): The gold coins system for getting discounts off other digital games works seamlessly and is brilliant and there is nothing like it on Xbox or PS4. Why doesn't Nintendo get credit for that?
@Cotillion Yeah, fair point
Game demos and free content are good. The NES games don't appeal to me. None of that matters when Nintendo struggles so much with online multiplayer. If they got online multiplayer right and had a standard multiplayer feature set and tolerable amounts of lag on their first party games, I wouldn't care if Nintendo Switch Online had no bonus features.
@carmudgeon The reason why people like myself want them on there so bad is that you can’t even buy them. So the only way we are going to get them is through the online service which is supposed to add online play to the retro games as well. But yes, they should add a lot of online features that should be standard by now but once again, it’s Nintendo.
I think Nintendo could focus on improving what they already do and it'd be pretty worthwhile.
I'd like to see the NES app support more customization, such as button remapping.
Cloud saving is great, but its value is significantly reduced when a number of their big games that would benefit most from it are barred from cloud saving at all.
More frequent timed discount windows for big first-party games would certainly be appealing. As would bigger digital sales in general.
The Tetris 99 competitions that offer gold coins and exclusive themes are extremely cool. I'd love to see events like that expanded to other MP-focused Nintendo properties.
The only thing it needs for me is the ability to invite friends to online games, which the beta version had but the full version does not have for any game other than Splatoon 2
Ehh I don't agree that the appeal has grown. To be honest cloud saves are really the main benefit to me personally. Really hope SNES games come soon as I'm seriously considering not even renewing our membership when it runs out in October.
@Cotillion I agree. I would much rather have a Netflix-styled virtual console with all the old games rather than having a few measly games out at a time. Give us all the gems from every generation and I’ll gladly pay money to play them.
We're definately getting somewhere. Tetris 99, Game Vouchers, NES Controllers, and now Free Trials. It's growing, and that's good. We still need more robust features regarding communication. Specifically Voice Chat, keep the app if you want but don't make our phone the only option. How about a standard headset that works in conjunction with the app? That way, people who want the game and chat audio can get that without a Spagetti monster of wires that Hori adapter is.
Not so sure.... Demo have been part of video games since the PS1 as far as I can remember, it always been a perk I wouldn't say something worth paying a subscription for.... Of course one could argue that you get the full game but in the age of online gaming that's pretty much a demo of the online.... and unlike previous traditional demo it's for a very specific time so might not be able to enjoy it all.... it certainly not like the monthly game other system give you every month, since you get to keep them and add them to your backlog... and we don't even know how frequent they'll be... NSO still seems like a rip-off to me as the nes game are of no interest to me and the online is often to unstable for me to enjoy (with smash of Mario maker)...
Subscriptions can do one. If I want to play NES titles I'll grab my NES, Wii, Wii U or mini NES. If I want to play multiplayer games I'll step into my Tardis and go back 20 years to play Rage Wars on the sofa.
We still don't have a basic messaging system to make new friends online.
I would like to be able to purchase Switch dashboard themes like the 3ds had.
Switch Online needs some sort of tier-based service that caters to both the people that only want to use it to play friends online (and give them audio chat finally) and a tier for those of us that want something comparable to what Sony and Microsoft already offer. Yes, its silly to think that your $15 a year is going to buy you Game Pass, but Nintendo is either naïve or stupid to be leaving so much money on the table with their Switch-less SNES/GCN/etc catalog. I'd happily pay $15/month for a "Nintendo All Access" pass; they don't even have to give me newer games - just everything pre-2012 or so.
@gangsterswedish The retro systems themselves could be tiers. Each one being a package you add to your base subscription. Placates everyone who can then pick which nostalgic systems they want. And then another package for newer games.
@SBandy umm because xbox and ps4 doesn't need them, considering that they already offer bigger and better discounts?
I thought it was crap, until they released Tetris 99. That's my favorite game on the system.
Other than that, it's still not that great. I don't think they will be releasing SNES games, unless it's some $10 a month subscription. It would canibalize the indie game sales. The nes games are so boring that they don't compete with anything else on the system.
But any way, never expect good deals from Nintendo. It never happens.
I don't honestly expect that much from NSO, just that it works. 20 dollars a year is super cheap. If nothing changed, all they really need to do is improve the functionality to help the people having connection issues.
But I would be okay with a price increase in exchange for significant content improvements. More than just SNES games. We needs some kind of direct messaging system built into the Switch and an invite system. Or the phone app needs a total overhaul - none of this game specific stuff - it needs to have a full friend's list, and the ability to send messages and invites to games. It also should have a version of the eshop, even just to browse.
As for games, they should bring in SNES, Game Boy (color too), GBA, N64 and Gamecube titles. It wouldn't need to be all at once, but this super slow trickle of just NES games just isn't appealing.
If it were me, I would keep the 20 dollar pricetag and just add the messaging features and phone app overhaul. But then add additional console support for the games for different prices.
NES would be default and everyone gets it. Then support for each additional console, another 5 bucks. Or a package deal for everything, base NSO and the additional consoles for 40 bucks a year. With new games added more frequently. Maybe 2 for each system each month.
@HumanDog Really sick of this mindset of classic games destroying indie sales - so don't support classic games. If indie games cannot compete then they should be allowed to fail. There are a lot of great indie games around, and a lot of total filler shovelware too. I for one would rather keep the Hollow Knights, Wargrooves, Stardew Valleys, Night in the Woods' etc and ditch all the 5 dollar mobile game ports and other junk, instead having classic quality titles is better overall.
Dude. Comparing this with PSN is overkill. PSN offers triple-A games for free every month. Every. Month. Well i think Nintendo is just started 2 years ago and i hope they prioritize consumer satisfaction
@ShaiHulud Nudging a friend on the sofa isn't cheating...it's gamesmanship. O.< When we played Mario Kart, we used the dark arts of jinxing. "You are doing really well" for example. Shame to see those times die.
@templag Free? Really?
Tetris 99 is amazing, but the lag in Super Mario Maker 2 is equally awful. Half the time it is totally unplayable for me.
>exclusive content
>step in the right direction
>charging for P2P
>IMPLYING
@GameOtaku for that £20 you get 5% of what PSN, XBL provide so bargain is a very loose definition here. We could say bargain, but bang for buck? No.
Now the Wii U online service was a bargain, free and vastly superior to Switch.
They should have NES, GB/C, SNES & GBA games on there by now. Anything N64 to the Wii/3DS library should be looking at remasters/remakes same with any 3rd party PS1, 2 and Xbox era games. Most WiiU, PS3 and 360 could simply be a straight port or remastered in the very least.
The only appeal for NSO is the price and Tetris.
NES games are a bore and the switch still lacks basic features.
Saying NSO has a long way to go is an understatement.
@diwdiws
Such as?
Nes, snes, gb, gba. Basically any of their 2d games that are easy to emulate properly should be part of the online offerings. The 3d games i would rather see them remastered in hd
They'd have to announce something special pretty soon for me to continue my subscription in September.
Smash online is a joke. If Brawhalla can achieve smooth online gameplay, Nintendo should be able to as well.
Mario Tennis online is truly abysmal.
Splatoon is actually less reliable than before the service was introduced.
Deleting uploaded Smash stages without any advance warning or even saying anything at any juncture is likely the last straw for me.
Nintendo should be promoting their rich catalog of hits. The NES offerings were nice, but with emulation tech being what it is, the Nvidia Shield with similar workings under the hood can tackle NES to N64 with ease. Ideally, the monthly update would add more than 2 NES oldies... with titles Nintendo fully owns they could put out an NES, Gameboy, SNES, N64 and GBA title in one sweep to give folks variety. The Shield can handle Dreamcast and Saturn, even DS with relative ease, so it's less likely a capability issue and more of a, "How long can we get away doing the bare minimum, starving our fans for content which encourages emulation elsewhere then scolding them for doing so." And better sales/discounts for online members is a whole 'nother ball of Yoshi yarn. Like most Nintendo fans, I agree with you. And having lived through the robust eShop days of the Wii, I recall what Nintendo CAN do when they really want to
Whoever wrote this article, please NintendoLife, let him write other articles too. They are serious, well written and they respect readers' notion. Well done!
Of course they won't improve it. There's around 10M subs so Nintendo's going to see that as a success and won't be bothered to improve it. Seriously considering reporting this "service" to ScamWatch at this point.
@TheAwesomeBowser
Do it.
@TheAwesomeBowser
Bye... 😜
I will extend my subscription on next month and keep happy from Online Service.
@SBandy I mean, I wouldn't call the gold coin system brilliant. It's a nice gesture. But it isn't like they translate to huge savings if you haven't already spent a boatload on games in the first place. Unless I'm missing some other method of obtaining gold coins.
Perhaps they should give more options. They could let us choose which retro console games we choose along with Switch Online. $30 a year for N64 games with Switch Online, $25 a year for SNES games with NSO, etc.
I'm surprised there are that many people who pay $20 per year for NSO.
I signed up alongside 4 friends of mine for the $35 family plan. That's $7 per year per person.
@Airsqueeble I get 4 free games a month from Microsoft and two of them I can keep even after my subscription expires.
So that's 48 free games a year with 24 that I get to keep. For $60 that comes out to about $1.25 per game or $2.50 per game that I get to keep.
Since Nintendo charges 1/3 of the price then we should see 16 free games a year with 8 of them being keepers.
Maybe it's better not to say 'but Nintendo Online Service is cheaper' because it isn't much of a defense.
@DannyBoi you also pay 3 times as much for those other services and get crap games also.
No one product will satisfy everyone and that includes the Nintendo online service. There will come a time when it reaches saturation point for the number of Switches sold, but it will ever get 100% of Switches sold signing up to its service.
I for example don't play online games, and have had my fill of playing nes games, so what ben
Eh, it's still pretty mediocre but it's the only way I can play games with my childhood friends who don't live near me anymore. Plus Mario Maker 2 course sharing. I do hope we get improvements in the future but it's Nintendo so I'm not expecting anything.
Offering trials and a discount on said game has little or nothing to do with Nintendo Switch online and could be done anyway. The only reason I subscribe is because it's cheap and I like the assurance of cloud saves due once again to Nintendo's poor decision making in how save files are handled. As for actual games, well I played Mario Kart 8 for 4 years online for free but now have to pay and Mario Maker 2 would be largely useless without the subscription, however that game is basically unplayable online which is unacceptable in this day and age and for a paid service no less. Nintendo's online is frankly poor across the board with only Splatoon 2 performing well most of the time in my experience.
As for games well we have Tetris and the drop feed of NES games when we all know there is no reason why they cannot have SNES and N64 games on there already, even Gamecube or Wii games given the latter is on the shield. I'd happily pay for a higher tier sub to get such things or you know buy the games I want individually but Nintendo is Nintendo and they would rather sit on a gold mine of games and not sell them to anyone.
But at least give us button remapping on the NES service as somehow they put the controls the wrong way round
Dedicated servers would be a start. Watched Alex trying out the Smash update the other day and he lagged quite a lot.
Sure, we could say excuses like "I'm on WIFI" etc, but the Switch doesn't even have an ethernet port, so it was intended to be played wireless by design.
Love the Switch, and the support has been great, but please could you put a little of that sweet Online profit back into a proper server infrastructure, Nintendo?
@Heavyarms55 i agree, but you can't expect Nintendo to kill their indie support. Plus it generates money. The SNES cow must be a bit dry by now. They have been milking it ever since the Wii was released 13 years ago. All my nostalgic feelings for classic games disappeared by now. Seeing another Link to the Past release is like seeing FIFA 21.
Plus they need the indie support to fill the store. Real third party support still isn't that strong.
@Kintypoo121 This is the truth. it's all well and good giving stuff away - everyone likes free - but can we just have an online infrastructure that actually works first!
@HumanDog This whole idea is just nonsense. If indies can't compete, they should be allowed to fail. For every amazing indie title like Hollow Knight or Stardew Valley, we have 10 shovelware mobile ports and 8 cookie cutter bargain bin Link to the Past clones.
Indie titles are real third party support just fine. Games like Wargroove and Night in the Woods are stellar games that sell wonderfully. We shouldn't be skipping out on classic games to protect shovelware.
Another day another article about the Nintendo online service,which will once again bring out all the torch and pitchfork brigade who will always hate the service no matter what,even if there was every Nintendo retro platform on there,as even then it would have to be totally free,this is because Nintendo have never charged for their online service in the past,we will of course get the argument that even though it is a very cheap service from Nintendo it still falls short of the online services of both Sony and Microsoft.
They will of course try to convince us that they are Nintendo fans and are speaking for the wider Switch community,when some of us know we are a very vocal internet forum posting minority,the Nintendo Switch is catering for a very wide demographic and this will be very evident when the Switch light is released,while there are people that will invest lots of their time playing games,there will be also Switch owners that will just connect their console to the internet to buy stuff,but will have little or no interest in playing online,and this would be the case even if it was totally free.
What also surprises me is that people on here go on as if somehow Nintendo lied about the service they were offering,from the start their online service was to continue playing their titles online,cloud saves and NES titles with the odd bonus thrown in,some are making out that this was not the case and Nintendo promised much more,which is simply not true.
@GameOtaku,
You would think a Virtual console service would make sense,but then if there was a lot of money to be made from it then Nintendo would introduce one,my bet is the services game sales were declining year on year,and being honest here they launched the original on the Wii and only carried it over to the Wii U because the console had to backwards compatible with the Wii.
When a virtual console existed a lot of the people complaining now were also complaining then at the pricing for the games,when you step back and look at the it the online idea is very good value,all they need to do is introduce some more consoles at some point,which I am sure they will do.
@Heavyarms55,
We have to take a step back here and look at things from outside of our own viewpoint,which I must confess is difficult as I would buy every Nintendo retro game from each system on every console.
But of course I doubt that I personally and other core fans represent a massive percentage of the overall Switch user base,now we also have to bear in mind that there is a lot of retro titles being released for the Switch e-Shop from other publishers so it's only the Nintendo games that we are talking about here,and in this respect I fell Nintendo have looked at the Switch market as a whole and decided to release it's retro games as part of a subscription service.
Now as I have said many times there were a lot of people moaning about game prices on the Virtual console services when they were running,so this to me anyway seems like a much better way of releasing these games,and you also have to consider the impact of Nintendo's very popular mini systems as this will have also limited the ongoing viability of a new Nintendo virtual console service,also another point to take into consideration if you believe as I do that the main source of income from retro Nintendo titles will always come from the core Nintendo fans,is that the pure amount of emulation systems out there will also impact any potential sales from a new virtual console service too,I mean just look how easy it is to buy a Snes or Nes classic on E-bay loaded with games,and if you are a little more tech savvy it a very easy process for you to do yourself,now of course it's not the way I would go as I would love all this stuff contained on my Switch,but at this point it seems more like a wish list than a genuine goal for Nintendo.
@johnvboy So we should steal the games and play them on hacked devices instead. That's your answer?
@Heavyarms55,
Never said that,but it still is a reality that happens,if you read my earlier and the last comment I would buy as much virtual console stuff Nintendo can provide each and every generation.
@johnvboy You're right, I misread. My mistake.
Tetris 99 on its own is worth a year's sub. The NES service is OK, I'd rather have that than have to pay £4 a game. The Tennis Aces demo is not interesting to me, but the more value they add the better.
I just got Online with SMM2 and I have to say the NES section is underwhelming. I hope in the next year we will see a better online platform with SNES, gamecube or N64 options added.
It doesn't feel great value for money when I was able to play Mario Kart and others for free online when I first had my switch (day one purchase).
After the dedication they gave Smash Bros, they clearly are capable of delivering to the ninty fans. I can but dream of a dedicated investment into old games for the online payers.
If it wasn't for the SMM2 bundle I probably wouldn't be an online subscriber. I would guess that is the same for many people.
@Heavyarms55,
To be honest I have rambled on a bit this morning,I was not surprised that you did not see it.
@johnvboy No it's my fault for skimming through your comment so fast. It's a bad habit of mine.
@Crono1973
“Maybe it's better not to say 'but Nintendo Online Service is cheaper' because it isn't much of a defense.” So if your friend buys a Mercedes Benz and it has 48 luxury features, if you were to buy a Ford Fiesta at a 1/3 of the price you should still get 16 things the Mercedes has? Budget services get budget features. Premium services get premium features.
@DannyBoi with Sony and Microsoft service price too?
Remember when they said nes and Snes games with online play.
Reasons Nintendo's Online sucks:
Games from the Gamecube, N64, and DS make a lot more sense. Having something like Mario 64 DS, Sunshine, Luigi's mansion 1, Mario Party 4-6 (with online boards?), etc would be amazing and a much better use of their time. Crystal Chronicles is getting ported with multiplayer online, so why doesn't Nintendo do this too?
@johnvboy
If sakes of VC declined it's because they didn't add anything to it in long stretches of time and they segregated games between the consoles (star tropics, double dragon 3 on wiiu but not 3ds for example).
Biggest issue I have is that these are rentals. Your time with them is also dependant on an Internet connection to "check in" every other week. I could easily look over a list of games and buy the ones I wanted to play or had an interest in especially if the entirety of the back catalog were laid open. Instead you have to pay $20 for a online service even if you don't play online just to get access to features that were free and open to all last gen! You realize that you are still paying for the same rental games year after year right? In 3 years that's $60! I could've bought all the vc on my 3ds for that and probably quite a few games more and I don't have to check in either! I had a one month sub with my coins, and only had it to try the nes games and I only had 2 weeks of play since I don't have Internet at home and it locked me out!
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@GameOtaku,
It is the way Nintendo are doing it,we either accept is or not simple,I do see how you could have issues with no internet at home though.
It's funny after all these decades have passed that we still depend on good old Tetris 2 keep us happy...such a genius game that...
@GrailUK oh man, you missed a LOT of things.
@templag I missed nothing. I play what I want (Edit: Erm, that maybe reads far more confrontational that it was supposed to. Sorry lol.)
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