Stealthily announced a month or two ago, there is still some uncertainty about what exactly Ultimate NES Remix contains. Is it a new game, is it NES Remix and NES Remix 2 stuck together in one package, like the Wii U retail release, or is it something else entirely?
Although Nintendo detailed the game's contents a little during its Treehouse live stream last month, we've received an early copy of the game so we can clear up any remaining confusion. Essentially, Ultimate NES Remix is a bit of a "best of" collection, featuring some but not all of the content from the previous two Wii U eShop titles, essentially making it a way for those with a 3DS but without a Wii U to try out a large portion of the two rather excellent titles.
Ultimate NES Remix takes 16 of the games and all of their respective challenges from both Wii U titles, with an equal amount from each. Specifically, from NES Remix it takes Super Mario Bros., Mario Bros., The Legend of Zelda, Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr., Balloon Fight, Ice Climber and Excitebike.
Then, from NES Remix 2, it takes Super Mario Bros. 2, Super Mario Bros. 3, Kirby's Adventure, Zelda II: The Adventure of Link, Punch-Out!!, Dr. Mario, Metroid and Kid Icarus. There's no doubt that this is, overall, a great selection of games and challenges, and most people probably won't miss the myriad of NES sports titles which all failed to make the cut — unfortunately some gems like Wrecking Crew and Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels were also excised in favour of the other titles.
It seems like the included games were based mostly on popularity, but in the end this is still existing content that's been excluded without anything new to replace it, which is quite disappointing. Naturally, any and all remix stages featuring elements from the omitted games have also been removed, which means that a handful of challenges that were mostly focused on titles present here — yet included some minor features from other games — have vanished as well.
Another feature that appears to be absent is Miiverse integration, which was quite prevalent in the Wii U releases. There is no way to post your own messages or see those from others next to each of the challenges, and as a result even the rather amusing collectable stamps are nowhere to be found. Each challenge offers no rewards other than stars to unlock additional challenge; that's a pity, and we can only hope for an update to remedy this in future.
To somewhat make up for this, every single challenge in the game now features its own online leaderboard, though the only lists you can display are those of your region and your friend list, meaning there is no worldwide section. In addition both of these only display the top 8 players, meaning you can't even find out — it seems — where you are if you're not near the top. Just like in NES Remix 2, however, it is possible to download and watch replays from the displayed players, which is a neat feature and useful when trying to improve your own performance.
In general terms pretty much all of the (included) content is exactly the same as it was on Wii U, but there are two additional game modes as well. Just like those who own both Wii U titles, Ultimate NES Remix includes Championship Mode, which lets you play three games in a Nintendo World Championships-style fashion, attempting to clear a short goal in each as quick as possible.
This is basically the same as it was before, but the other mode is where the difference lies — NES Remix 2 included an edited version of Super Mario Bros. where you played as Luigi and the entire game was mirrored, but Ultimate NES Remix instead features Speed Mario Bros., another edited version of the same game where the gimmick is that it moves at twice the original speed. This is arguably not as interesting as the Luigi version, but still quite fun — it makes dodging Goombas and jumping over pits surprisingly hard.
All in all, from what we've played so far, Ultimate NES Remix seems like it's perfect for those without access to the original Wii U releases of the games — despite this the fact that the game is called "Ultimate" when there's missing content is a little disappointing, especially when there's a Wii U retail release featuring 100% of both games on the horizon in North America. It could be a solid collection for 3DS owners yet to take the plunge with Nintendo's home console, however; we'll have an in-depth review closer to the game's release, so stay tuned.
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I was wondering about the aspects of the game this preview covers so thank you for this. There isn't a huge amount going on in retail with the 3DS so may get it as a DL
I don't have a Wii U so this works.
Meh, should be an eshop title. £39 on Amazon, I don't think so.
Edit, actually it's 29pounds. But still, it's half that on the WiiU
Edit2, it was £39 up until last Friday. Had it perorder on Amazon.
@readyletsgo
It's £29.86 on Amazon.
No 3DS games are ever £39 on Amazon.
@readyletsgo Woow seriously? £39 for that? Thats a rip off!! Was considering buying it for on the go. But not now.
@IxC Ah just saw your post as I posted mine. Still think it's too pricey.
I'll pick this up.
Speed Mario Bros? That is the worst gimmick they could have come up with. Seriously, you're just going to bump the speed of the cpu in the emulator and call that a valid game? Luigi Bros was a clever idea. Speed Bros is just lazy.
Any of the other modifcations to the Mario games in the remix levels would've been better. A whole game where the platforms disappear every few seconds. A whole game where you have to keep collecting coins to stop the game from becoming a big pixelated blur.
Speed Bros is just urgh.
That said, I would still like a retail collection of the two Wii U titles. But this Ultimate release just seems incredibly lazy.
Lost interest, especially at that price.
Meh... meh... meh...
Never played a nes remix before, and because I am not overly impressed with Super Smash Bros 3ds, I will give this a go, and the new Sonic if it's gets a good review.
Milking money, the Nintendo way.
what's the point of having a wii u anymore....
I think this should of been called "NES Remix: 3DS Edition", NES Remix Pack is the true Ultimate NES Remix.
it kinda annoys me that this is a retail game and not just a 10€ download from the eshop. i mean there sure isnt much on the cartridge. it could be like the smallest retail game ever for 3DS.
Cool but I'm all about the WiiU physical release of the two titles.
"Ultimate NES Remix seems like it's perfect for those without access to the original Wii U releases of the game"
I really don't see how. I'd rather play something as simple as an NES minigame collection on my 3DS than my Wii U for portability, and have to only buy one title instead of two. Keeping the best titles from both? Great. No MiiVerse integration? I don't ever use MiiVerse so for me this is a non-issue. Limited leaderboards seems a shame, but it beats not having any at all.
EDIT: Wait - this isn't an eShop release? LOL, never mind then. £30? You're having a laugh Nintendo. Guess I'll skip this too then. :/
can you comment if this is in 3D?
@audreypots
A 3DS game in 3D? Never seen any of those before!
@audreypots
It isn't.
@ryanator008
This person was asking if they use stereoscopic 3D in this game. Some 3ds games actually use 3d, others don't. Super Mario 3d land is heavily based on the use of 3d. Pokemon for the 3ds only uses 3d half the time, and One Piece Unlimited World Red for example uses no 3d. The answer to this persons question is no actually. It's been confirmed by another site that this game uses no 3d, not even in the menus. Audreypots' question had an actual purpose. Your answer did not.
It's too bad that more games didn't make it into the 3ds version, but no one will cry over missing titles like clu clu land and nes golf. Those challenges felt like the worst kind of filler that you had to slog through to 100% the game.
Keeping the replays is in the leaderboards is great; I would trade miiverse for leaderboards of any kind on the U version. If I didn't already have both titles I would definitely grab this on the 3ds. The minigame challenges seem more suited for handheld play anyway.
I want to know if Nintendo has any plans for SNES Remix? If they do then I'll be very happy.
@wayward
I actually found the games I was less familiar with much more satisfying. It was fun to play the ones I knew, but they were usually so easy that it was over quickly. Never knew the mechanics to Wrecking Crew as I skipped that when I was younger and that was an odd beast that I now understand much better. Clu Clu Land was also a fascinating spin on Pac Man that was more unique than I had first thought. Took some getting used to. The pinball challenges could be annoying though with what felt like luck for awhile.
I'd much rather play this on the Wii U, but my 3DS is just for playing games that aren't on it. It's more of a disappointment when they arrive on 3DS and not Wii U because they could be SO much better in every way.
Kid Icarus is great! But it's cramped and the graphics are so low res that you can barely tell what you are fighting half the time, and I can't share the experience with my kids because they can't see the screen (unless they are climbing on me, ouch) and the sound is low unless I shut the world out with headphones.
My kids and I LOVE playing Zelda games together. Sorry, not really possible with the otherwise excellent Link Between Worlds.
It's a pretty bad experience if you don't have a reason to game on the go.
Am I too old school to find that sharing experiences is 10x more fun than entertaining yourself alone?
@IxC
Thanks!
It's unacceptable that this will be sold for $30 when it's essentially a Greatest Hits version of the first two games. The full two-pack of these games for Wii U is also $30.
Well I was considering this but, I'll just get the packaged version of Nes Remix 1+2 on Wii U instead. No point in downgrading.
The WiiU version was fun, but I would not pay more than £15 for this version, maybe if it was a full or new game they could justify more.
One play through was enough for this series. I'd rather just replay the original games anyways.
If they can do this, why have they not made arrangements to acquire <i>Super Mario Bros. Crossover </i>?
i think i will just wait for a REAL NES compliation
It's cannot be the ULTIMATE remix without Urban Champion!!!!
Seriously, that basically covers the best of them. If they plug in the replay feature of NES Remix 2, that is a nice setup.
Seeing as a retail packaging of both games will be coming out kind of soon for Wii U that will definitely be the version I will be getting. This version is a great alternative for those without a Wii U though.
Wow that's disappointing. I already own both on the Wii U & I was going to buy this for the leaderboards, speed mario & because I haven't finished either game on Wii U but now I'll only buy it if I can get it at a large discount. Limited online leaderboards (only showing off the top 8, seriously?!), no stamps, no new challenges, missing challenges & no miiverse messages make this an instant no buy. If only they would bring over Speed Mario to Wii U, my life would be complete
I still have some credit with my local game store after buying Smash Bros. I may just reserve this.
The original game is all I need. It had the first time charm and the challenge. Everything after looks not as good.
Any StreetPass features?
@OmegaStar I've been a Nintendo fan since 1990, unless you've been a fan longer- I don't need an explanation.
You rang?
Going to buy it anyway
I haven't played the other two, so I'll get this.
Thanks for the preview, now I can happily skip this and the disc based version, as I already have the two downloads.
I never used Miiverse, but the stamps should be there to give the game a little more sense of progression and reward.
I got the first NES Remix on my Wii U with platinum rewards points and was pleasantly surprised. I was about to get the second one when I saw that they were coming out with the 3DS version and I think I will spend my money on this one instead (if they come out with a eshop version that is). I think the portability and the best of NES game challenges are perfect when I'm waiting while I'm on the go and I always enjoy having a bunch of digital games on my 3DS (reformatting a 64 gb card for my 3DS lets me have 20 3DS games on my machine right now without deleting anything or worrying about space). I think I'll pick this up on day 1.
Would love to play/participate in possible Miiverse competitions... But I got banned because I called out a troll.
Stupid freaking admins.
So...nothing new and the actual remix part of the game isn't even present? I won't be buying it, as I already beat both the Wii U titles. I'm glad to see the likes of Wario's Woods and Clu Clu Land taken out, but IMO Ice Climber is so fiddly, especially on the smaller 3DS, that it should have been removed also.
I'm thankful you've cleared up the question of content though. I did wonder if it was anything new.
Hey JellySplat, I got banned from Miiverse too, I told some guy he was made of sugar. The admins on Miiverse are insane, people can't even say anything that's not rainbows and lollipops. It's crazy how strict Miiverse is. And yeah, I already rainbowed both games on my Wii U, I'm definitely passing on this one myself.
They removed Wario's Woods from this then? If so, that makes me somewhat interested.
@MagikarpSplash
I do not question your credibility as a fan, but, you asked the question so allow me to give you an answer.
I own both systems, and I'm very well aware of the differences between them and the advantages the Wii U has over the 3DS. For one, and this is by far the most important reason to own a Wii U- the exclusive games. Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, Super Mario 3D World, DKC Tropical Freeze, Mario Kart 8, Hyrule Warriors, Zelda Windwaker HD, Bayonetta 1 and 2, New Super Mario Bros U and New Super Luigi U, Wii Sports Club Golf, Smash Bros U, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Captain Toad, and any number of the dozen exclusives coming in 2015. Not to mention the entire Wii back catalog.
Now, you might say "but I can play some of those games on 3DS" and true, you could. Smash is EXCELLENT on 3DS, as is Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate. But, that's only two games that are exactly the same. And MH3U doesn't have online on 3DS, and Smash is a game best suited to the big screen. Now sure, 3DS has a side scrolling Mario, a Mario Kart, and a DKC, and they are all great games, but in each and every instance the Wii U release is a better game in every respect. And more importantly, a different game with different levels, different courses and different (and better) features.
In the end, The Wii U has a healthy number of exclusives not present on the 3DS, and even the games like Mario Kart or NSMB are completely separate entries, the better version of which is always on the Wii U. And even the few games that are exactly the same on both systems, are always better on Wii U with more features and better visuals.
Not to mention the Miiverse experience is rather lacking on 3DS, but not on Wii U. The Virtual Console is better on Wii U with many of the best GBA games and we'll surely see DS and N64 at some point.
So for me, it's not even a question. The Wii U is a must own system if you enjoy playing great video games. There's too many great games the system has that are not available on the handheld, too many franchises where the superior entry is on Wii U, and even the cross platform releases are always best on Wii U.
That may not be reason enough for you, but it's more than reason enough for me.
I'll either get this, or just the two games on Eshop after a discount
If you can share the score, etc. between different versions, I think it's still worth to have both. Otherwise I will only get the Wii U version.
Put 3D World, Mario Kart 8, Tropical Freeze, New Super Mario Bros. U, New Super Luigi U, Xenoblade X, Hyrule Warriors, Nintendo Land, Game & Wario, Zombi U, Dr. Luigi, The Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2, Splatoon, Captain Toad, Yoshi's Wolly World, Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem, Zelda U, Mario Maker, Mario Party 10, Star Fox U, and Smash Wii U on the 3DS while you're at it, Nintendo.
@Dooyoo
Well that's dumb. I never would have expected it, hence the sarcasm.
So if I understand correctly it doesn't contain every challenge found in the e-shop games? So I guess I am better off with the downloads someday.
@SockoMario The 3DS would explode from just the visuals of the Wii U games.
I'd rather just get NES Remix 1+2 on my Wii U as there won't be any missing content.
Cutting out the reverse luigi mode means I'm not getting this unless I see it heavily discounted. Bad, gimped collection.
The games they picked for this Ultimate collection are definitely the ones I would have selected, especially Punch-Out!! and Excitebike. Speed Mario is just the icing on the cake. C'mon Santa!
@ryanator008
Yeah it bothers me when they don't put any effort into the 3d. I was hoping the games would look like the Nintendo 3d classics..Kirby, Excitebike, etc.
I'll tell you two things that this is.
1.) It's proof that Ninty likes to BS it's fans since it was originally stated that NES remix was released on Wii U as opposed to 3DS because the 3DS supposedly couldn't handle the game.
2.) It's a wasted opportunity. If you are going to release a 'remix' game on a handheld, it has to make sense for the platform. Game Boy Remix would have been much more appropriate, and would have warranted a purchase. They could have even gone on to SNES Remix for Wii U, and then GBA Remix for 3DS next. Such wasted potential for this series already.
So… Ultimate NES Remix will cost almost double that of NES Remix 1 + 2 combined (AU$49.95 vs. AU$26) and contain only half the content?
Er...
Wait... they're really selling this for $30? As in the cost of a 3DS retail title? I would have bite at $20 but $30 is a no way in h-e-double hockey sticks.
I was debating on getting the 3DS or Wii U retail copy. After reading this I will get the Wii U version. That being said if you don't own a Wii U this is a really fun and addictive game pick it up for the 3DS.
I'm usually all for NES stuff, but this sounds like a really gimped port of an already kind of disappointing selection of minigames/tasks/jobs.
A 3DS game card could hold hundreds of NES games with many challenges each, if they wanted, so there's no real excuse for the exclusions.
Sorry Indies Zero, but no.
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