Topic: Splatoon - OT

@Grumblevolcano: im down

@Grumblevolcano: Yeah I can confirm that. Although I only saw them on the plaza, haven't played much TW. And of course there were no newbies in Ranked. It's really great to see a swoop of new players coming in.
@yokokazuo: Haha, I love these comics. As always, thanks for translating.
@shinesprite: No problem, I can totally understand that because there are so many sites and different specifications (even those that I linked are a bit contradictive). But yeah, as @jariw wrote, that video is outdated. Several balance updates also changed the values.

I really gathered a lot of links since summer because at some point I was curious and wanted to know it all. So @ me if you need more infos, e.g. on the brand probabilites for the item abilities etc.
Here is another interesting one, it's a spreadsheet detailing the damage/defence values of all the weapons in combination with the damage/defence abilities. Obviously it's not up-to-date because the Sloshing Machine and Hydra Splatling are missing and I don't know if the balance updates were implemented (at least the sheet was edited after the game's release because of the Sloshers, Splatlings etc). But it gives a good indication where the damage caps are for each weapon type.

@Grumblevolcano: i gtg , GG ^_^ we actually beat an S+ in one match. thanks for the games.

@shani the person who made that ゼルダ(Zelda) makes a lot of these Splatoon comics and often adds more in the comments. I've translated most of them on miiverse if you want to take a look.

Panel 1
Santa: "HOT!"

Panel 2
Inkling: "Santa!"

Panel 3
Sploosh (I don't know much Japanese onomatopoeia, but I'm pretty sure the sound is the water hitting him)
Inkling: "Ah..."
[bottom right]
Christmas is over

Panel 1
Inkling: "Wh- What should I do?"

Panel 3
Inkling: "Merry Christmas!"

@yokokazuo: Cool, I guess then I should be watching your Miiverse page more often.

@shani ah, I meant Zelda's page since I post in her comments.

@yokokazuo: Ah okay, good to know. I thought you meant you translated them on your own profile's comments. Guess I'll be following ZELDA954 then.

Since I was a naughty inkling for the Squidmas season, that means all I get this year is to play more turf wars and ranked battles!

....I'm too much!

There's actually a new hacker. The hackers IGN is "cheyenne". I hope this hacker get 0wn3d and banned from the online commuinty.

@n00bfux0r420: Hacker? What do you mean by that? How do you identifiy someone as a hacker?
I can't imagine how hacking the game is supposed to work...

I watched NWplayer123 stream the other day playing as an Octoling but he made sure to leave after every match to avoid that save glitch than can happen to other players

@ELI-ASH: Didn't they already fix that problem in one of the previous updates? [EDIT: No, apparently not. I couldn't find it in any of the patch notes. ]

Anyway, I think back then everyone made a mountain out of a molehill. Sure, there were a few rare cases where people's savegames were corrupted (it happened to someone in this thread too), but everyone was just panicking for nothing. It was extremely unlikely to encounter an Octoling and there was also a workaround: Don't leave the game before the Octoling leaves your game.
As a precaution I made a backup of my savegames (not just Splatoon, but every game) on a separate USB stick and then didn't care about the Octolings at all. I never even once spotted one.

And BTW, as I just found out through Google when I was looking for the [EDIT: nonexistent] patch that fixed this, that you don't even need to hack the game at all (I won't post it here and I certainly won't try it out, but it was one of the first Google results...). Apparently you only have to edit one digit in the save file, no hacking involved. Google is full of false entries calling it an "Octoling Hack" or "a hacker who played as an Octoling" which is just wrong. Most people still don't seem to grasp what "hacking" means and we're already living in the year 2015!

@shani: im only speculating that was the reason also all players on nw side were Octolings (unless thats just his perspective ) thats different from the other report of just 1 random Octoling online

@ELI-ASH: I just googled his nickname and found this video were he was just showcasing it in a 1on1 private battle (that video is from the other person's point of view). Then I found his twitch profile and he actually seems to be playing as an Octoling all the time, even in ranked battles.

And it's definitely not his perspective, he would see them as Inklings if they were Inklings (according to that youtube video). I wonder if it still has a damaging effect if everyone on the map is an Octoling? Also, if he is playing as an Octoling regularly, does this mean the issue got fixed? Or does he screw up the savegames of everyone he plays against (and who leaves before he does)? That would be extremely cruel and hard to imagine.

I never got what the fuss is about. Sure, the Octolings look cool, but it doesn't matter because you don't watch your Inkling/Octoling in the heat of battle anyway. It's totally unnecessary, I wish this never became an issue in the first place.

@shani: really i guess they did fix it or nw group found a safe way

If we dont get Octolings in this coming "final update" i might look into this stuff further my splatoon copy is digital so i could just get a disc version to mess around with heh.

@ELI-ASH: I really don't care about it, but if they should do it I would find it better if they would let you play the Octolings in some additional singleplayer levels. The Octoling's reputation in online battles is ruined anyway.

For me, the Octolings don't belong in the online modes. The Octolings are the enemies from the war in the singleplayer campaign, they can't be the good guys now. Also, I think there would be a problem with the hats. As far as I can tell from the videos, you don't see the hats on the Octolings and that's a no-go if you ask me.

Aside from that, if you want to mess around with it, just make a backup of your savegame and you should be safe. I don't think you'll need to buy the game again for that. If the savegame is corrupted or not connected to the Wii U (e.g. because you forgot the USB stick, which happened to a friend of mine recently when he was visiting his dad), the game will launch with a fresh savegame where you start at lvl1 and without any gear, as if you just bought the game.

@shani: I think Octolings appearing online would be fine but only in certain situations (i.e. certain new modes). So you could have an Octolings vs. Inklings mode which functions similarly to Oddball from the Halo franchise (ball at central location, pick it up and hold for points) where the ball in this case is the zapfish from single player. Sadly, I don't see new modes or maps coming after the 2 maps announced recently.

@shani NWplayer123 usually uses a mod where it replaces all of the Inkling Girl models with Octoling models which doesn't affect anyone's save data since she's aware of the save bug that happens when you use an Octoling online.

@Grumblevolcano: Yeah, maybe in a certain adversarial mode, but I don't really see the necessity of it. If there hadn't been that Octoling not-hack, I bet no one would even think about it.

Splatoon was always about Inklings, it always said "you're a kid, you're a squid". At no point did it say "You're a kid, you're a squid, you're an Octoling". It would just ruin the balance and elegance of the game, "kid" and "squid" are not only the two states you can be in during battle (or even on the plaza), they are the holy duality of the game, the yin and yang of Splatoon. Adding a third option would destroy that, it wouldn't be elegant anymore.

That said, that Oddball mode sounds interesting on first sight. But I have serious doubts because a) it's very similar to Rainmaker with the only difference that you don't have to go anywhere, b) it would be very similar to Splat Zones and Tower Control where you also just have to hold something in your possession) and c) I fear it would be just boring/unchallenging, because once you have the ball, you can just evade to your base or some other place where you could hide until the timer reaches 100. It could be very unbalanced. At least in Splatoon and on the maps that we know. I will take a look at the Halo version of it though to be sure.

Although I'm pretty content with the three modes we already have, a fourth one would still be nice-to-have.

@Iggly: Ah good to know! But I wonder how she does it, are only the female Inklings from her point of view changed into Octolings or do the other players also get to see Octolings instead of female Inklings? Or in other words: Does the mod happen locally or online?