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NEStalgia

I still can't figure out how to get Souls to click. If you go super slow with combat it's just boring and frustrating. If you try to go aggressive with combat I end up just mashing buttons and dying. I was never really able to make it both successful and fun at the same time. And the worlds never compelled me to try very hard. It's one of those series I keep questioning how it's so popular. Not that I can't see it having a niche, but I can't understand how it developed a large niche.

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Dezzy

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A lot of people do say that they don't really "get it" to start with, but then they get to a certain point in the game and something clicks.

That certainly happened to me. I tried the original Dark Souls three times before I actually got into it properly. The first 2 times I stopped after an hour or so.

It depends how much time you've put into it really. If it's just a few hours, like 1-5 hours worth, I'd say you should keep trying. But if you've played like 10 hours+, and it's still not clicking, maybe your brain's just not wired for it.

Quite a few of my favourite games actually fit this pattern (that I didn't originally enjoy them but persevered anyway). I have the same with Mount and Blade. I hated that to start with, but so many people said it gets incredible so I just pushed through, and now I love it.

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NEStalgia

@Dezzy I'm not sure how many hours I put into it....I almost had fun for a brief while. But the empty world mixed with "take 5 steps, wait. Take 5 steps. Wait. Do it all again to gain more currency. Be ultra cautious and paranoid of losing said currency." I was really just not fun even trying.

Not sure what the difference is. Some games I can get really hooked on trying even if I keep failing. DS just wasn't one of them. I liked what I saw of 2 more than 1. But ultimately I just couldn't get into it at all. I think my brain must not be wired for it.

OTOH, FE I've always sucked miserably at but always get addicted to trying until at least part way through the game when it's just so difficult and I can't really figure out what I'm doing wrong. Then I try again next time.

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EvilLucario

@Dezzy I don't think you can get away with calling Bloodborne or Sekiro Dark Souls games since they still have differences. While Bloodborne is the closest to that and could perhaps get away with it, it has much less armor/stat customization than any Souls game and further simplifies Dark Souls mechanics, boiling the combat down to fast rolls + spamming R1. And Sekiro has even more differences like no stamina, a jump button, and very little customization. Even though it builds on posture from Bloodborne and Dark Souls III as a core mechanic, it's still different enough to be its own thing.

I found Bloodborne the easiest game though. Rally makes it so getting punished for taking hits is less severe, and blood gems are absolutely massive power creep that blows your DPS to ludicrous proportions. The healing system (which lets you have 20 vials right from the start) only further tips the favor to you. Enemies are the fastest and most unpredictable of the games, but you also have speed on your side.

It's still my third favorite From Software game (The Adventures of Cookie & Cream and Dark Souls 1 are still higher), but it feels the easiest for me.

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Dezzy

@NEStalgia

Yeah it sounds like you're just going into it expecting it to be something that it isn't. It's not an action game like Devil May Cry, and it's not a story-driven RPG like The Witcher.

It's hard to explain how to enjoy it though. All I can say is that once you reorient your playstyle and your expectations in line with what the game wants, you begin to see how clever so much of the game design is, whereas if you're still trying to play it as an action game, you'll probably miss a lot of stuff.

@EvilLucario

Well they're obviously different, but I meant it could be the same series in the way that Zelda games or Final Fantasy games are. Namely, they all share a kind of core formula, but then change all of the details.

I think Bloodborne and Sekiro fall into that category. They're not more different from Dark Souls than Final Fantasy 12 is from Final Fantasy 10.

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Magician

So Sony just filed trademarks for PS6 through PS10.

At least the name of future Sony consoles won't be a mystery I suppose.

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PikPi

Makes sense. Must be alot easier for them than Nintendo or Microsoft's marketing research department, lol

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Ralizah

@Magician It's for the best, I think. Some of Nintendo's console names have been strange and confusing.

Actually, so has Microsoft's consoles.

Sony kept it simple. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, etc.

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NEStalgia

Why confuse the target consumer with such big numbers? They should stick to colors and shapes so the core of their market can understand

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link3710

@Ralizah I was just trying to explain to a non-gamer the other day how the Xbox One comes after the Xbox 360, and is different from the original Xbox, and yet connected to the Xbox One X. It reminded me of the days of trying to explain the Wii U lol.

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Dezzy

It makes sense when the concept behind your console is pretty consistent. Microsoft should do the same frankly.

Nintendo are justified in doing it differently because they try and innovate with hardware a lot more.

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PikPi

Well yeah, there's only so much you can do after Super Nintendo. Ultra Nintendo, Ultimate Nintendo, Pinnacle Nintendo, 4th Dimensional Nintendo

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Dezzy

I'm pretty sure they used most of those for Street Fighter 4 iterations.

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NotTelevision

@NEStalgia I think the reason I like the Soulsborne games is because it is the closest thing we have to a big budget annual Castlevania or Metroid nowadays. They are very simple in that they just drop you into a massive world and see if you can progress with the tools given to you. It’s sort of forces the player the make the most of what is given to them because at times it feels like you need to start a large fire with blunted flint.

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Dezzy

Beat Genchiro at the top of the castle in Sekiro. That was a pretty fun fight.

Took me about 10 tries. I wonder how that compares to the average.

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PikPi

Genichiro is the first major barrier to the rest of the game, if I remember correctly. Pretty much he's the first boss that truly tests your parrying skills, so if you (generally speaking) can't beat him, you'll most likely have a very hard time with the rest of the game. Most people, from what I saw around launch, had a great deal of trouble with him, usually taking hours if not days to beat him, so I think you did fairly quick compared to many. That's where it clicked for me, after losing to him for a day. After him, most of the bosses became more of a rhythm game for timing my parries.

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Dezzy

@PikPi

Yeah I think he's probably the first boss you definitely can't beat if you play it Dark Souls style (i.e dodge and attack)

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NotTelevision

The wait isn’t long now for Death Stranding.

I can’t tell if this is going to be a masterpiece or it’s just some expensive star-studded vanity project. The trailer is just a series of attractive women telling the hero “your the only one” who can save us. Is this the quality of the dialogue we can expect from this game?

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Dezzy

81 on metacritic.

Pretty much what I expected. Good, but the lowest score he's had for decades probably.

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