Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@SKTTR
I haven't heard many reports at all of Switch Lites having issues. You hear all kinds of reports of joycon from early buyers, but Switch Lite reports are far and few between.

And I know they changed some design in the v2 release. Given that fact and the lack of mass reports of Lites, they may have already addressed it (at least, to the extent they can- all controllers will have a certain defective rate).

But even if they haven't, you should still get a couple years out of them depending on use. And if not, send in for free repair. Or pop $35 for a L Joycon replacement. Doesn't seem too dire an outcome.

Or, just buy the chad Binbok joycon Goomba linked above and never worry about that crap again. Unlike Hori Split Pad Pro, they're slimmer profile, actually have wireless, actually have rumble, actually have Gyro, and frankly, are more ergonomic and comfy anyways and actually fit in certain cases.

Oh. And they have RGB. Can't be a real gamer without that 😀

Super Chad RGB Joycon That Eats Your Joycon For Breakfast

Yep, this would've been the perfect time to do that as well.

I'm more and more convinced by my theory that they're being effectively forced into denying it's a serious issue by the various lawsuits against them. If they acknowledge it's important enough to require a revision, then that might be taken as an admission of guilt in the lawsuits.

Just a theory. I don't know enough about american law on those issues to know whether that's plausible or not.

@ok1 Nintendo just anounced a new Switch model with OLED display and enchanced audio.

check out the review of Monster Hunter Stories 2:Wings of Ruin

Given we got a batch of NSO games on July 15th 2020 and July 10th 2019, the next batch of NSO games is likely coming very soon. I wonder what really obscure games we'll get this time.

@Grumblevolcano I finally resubbed for golf online play. So I'm intrigued to see what they offer on this next batch.

@Grumblevolcano problaby more obcure NES/SNES games no one cares.

I am hoping for Bubsy!

GB/GBC I can see. I'd bet money N64 isn't happening anytime soon.

@Dezzy That seems doubtful. They could revise it and claim it's simply due to manufacturing reasons involving stocking or price.

That said... After having six separate issues with drift in the first two years, I haven't since. And I still haven't heard a confirmed case of drift from the Switch lite. And it was confirmed that there was a manufacturing change to try and prevent drift.

At the least, it definitely seems like they took steps to reduce the issue.

Edit: @DarthNocturnal I feel like we have to be getting something in terms of Earthbound within the Switch's lifespan, after neither Earthbound / Mother game has been available on NSO. I'm thinking they're holding them back to avoid treading on a remake or collection or something.

Looks like Switch won't be getting a port of KoF XV. Most unfortunate, I thought the SamSho 2019 port was well done. Well, maybe it'll come to Switch at a later date? Fingers crossed.
https://www.snk-corp.co.jp/us/games/kof-xv/

I doubt many people care.

Nobody gave two flips about Samurai Showdown. I remember when it launched, I couldn’t even get a conversation going for it in its own thread, much less around here.

You’ll hear more talk about the game not coming than you’d hear if it actually was. Seems NeoGeo fighters just aren’t popular on Switch.

I am glad we got SamSho though (though I imagine I’m one of the few). I even imported the collector edition from Europe with NeoGeo case. If ppl feel like a modern SNK fighter, they can play Samurai Showdown.

That being said, I wouldn’t rule Switch out. 95% of Switch’s 3rd party library for current releases was announced later than other versions. If it is coming, I wouldn’t expect to see it announced with other versions anyways.

Where was this confirmed?

@Magician
Here is one lesson i have learnt.
When certain games cannot be ported to Switch due to certain reasons, i will stop begging for the ports.
I will pick the PlayStation version instead, it saves my day and i will not crying over the games that cannot have the Switch version.

@Dezzy
I saw a Twitter post, and I think Nintendo Life ran an article about it as well. Spawnwave also shows it in a video, though he misses the fact the design was altered in the video. But if you find the video and you look at the internals you can see it, if you have a pic to compare to. The plate that the spring rubs against has a new shape that appears to make it less likely to slide around and scratch the surface unintentionally.

But ya. They made a design change that was present in the v2 Switch (and presumably the Lite), but we can’t say for sure that’s when it went into effect. We know what happened around that time but it is possible some stock had the change present a few months before that. With the way inventory can sit in stores I think it was a roll of the dice if you were getting the new design if you bought a switch around that time period.

But yeah, we can’t say for sure what the design change was intended to accomplish. But given the complaints about drift it’s a safe assumption the design was changed in order to minimize early failures. We saw Nintendo reacted to the right joycon antenna signal cutting out after launch, and they addressed that problem, so we know they are listening and willing to react to customer complaints. I doubt they wouldn’t react to something much larger with even lawsuits involved.

The fact we have practically every person in the forum saying they encountered drift at least once, in some cases multiple times, yet we don’t see the same for Lite owners (that doesn’t mean there’s no Lite owners who have encountered issues, But you just don’t see posts about people having to return their Lites due to drift- if it had the same proportion defective you’d expect 75% of members who own one to have encountered issues), and that suggests the change had a significant positive effect on mean time to failure. It’s hard to judge by joycon because most people don’t really know which ones they have- The older design or the newer design. But it would explain why I still haven’t encountered drift, when I used my DQ joycon for 2 years before finally buying Binbok. And I still haven’t gotten drift on my Lite, either, and I use that thing every single day. Even at work.

So we can’t really make any conclusive statements, but just a quick statistical analysis observing the proportion of people reporting joycon issues versus the proportion of Lite owners reporting Lite issues, and knowing there was a change around the time the Lite released, leads me to believe it’s not the problem it used to be. I could be wrong in that assessment. And that’s not to say the problem has been eliminated entirely. But I do believe mean time to failure has been significantly extended, at the very least.

Oh come on, I'd have thought you'd know the score by now... 'launch' means it's coming to Switch later but we don't want to tell you yet.

@JaxonH

Unless we can see clearly which the improved sticks are, it's kinda useless. You can buy replacement sticks on ebay for like $5, so we should surely be able to buy the improved version like that too?

You'd need some way of distinguishing between them though.

The other issue with the sticks is if Nintendo acknowledges they changed them, they lose a lot of ongoing court cases where under litigation they can't admit fault outside of the courts.

It's messy 🤣

Nuts that because people jumped to lawsuits, Nintendo can't tell people it's fixed, and thus the cycle perpetuates that the issue isn't fixed, this more lawsuits.

My Switch V2 joy-con lasted equally as long as the previous joy-con I had used, which was not long at all.

@Magician Yeah, unfortunately the fix would basically only extend the average lifetime before drift, not fix it completely. Eventually all the v2s and Lites will get drift too, some even as quickly as V1s.