Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

There's been some decent sales going on in the eShop recently. Picked up Sonic 2 on a whim, and Degrees of Separation offers an interesting co-op experience

I bought a Switch v2 because I needed a travel dock, new joycons to replace my then drifting ones, a copy of dq 11 and I wanted the better battery life. While I prefer games on the tv I don't have one currently so handheld is my option and the Lite is too small for my eye to play comfortably. I'll likely retropi my og switch eventually so I can play more fighting games on it.

(that being said if they make a Zelda lite Ill buy it because I have no self control...)

@TuVictus Sonic 2 on sale already? Where?

@toiletduck I'm sorry, I misremembered because I got it with other games that were on sale, but it was only $8 on the eshop!

@TuVictus ah ok, that makes sense. I don't have time to play it anytime soon anyway so I can afford to wait and try to pick it up dirt cheap enjoy!

I think people need to realize the Nintendo Switch is a 9th gen console. Meaning its in the same generation as the Series X and PS5. Nintendo needs a serious update.

Continued sales say otherwise.

@HobbitGamer Only time it sells is when a big game is about to release. Then its dead for another 8 months. When the holiday season comes and Nintendo doesn't update their hardware, the Switch is going to fail all of next year.

@MrAfrika K

Generation talk is meaningless when Nintendo launch half way through the PS4/Xbone lifecycle.

@Dezzy Yeah but just because the Wii U flopped doesn't mean the Switch stays in the same generation when its was a completely different console. Wii U, PS4 and Xbox One are all the same generation. SWitch is generation 9, just 3 years early.

@Vee_Flames @Ralizah Perfect explanations regarding why one would get the Switch Lite. I think it's a great portable now that I've played it some more.

What 'generation' a console is depends on what else is actively being supported and developed around the release of that console. Switch is an eighth-gen device that released half-way through the generation because of the failure of the Wii U. There are no ninth-generation consoles yet.

Also, the Switch has been selling amazingly since it first released, and at the rate it's going could potentially outsell the PS4.

Nintendo clearly don't care what either Sony or MS are doing hardware wise. Furukawa is on the record, no new hardware in 2020. The first couple years of PS5 and Series X are going to be loaded with cross-gen games. Games playable on PS4, XBone, and Switch.

Nintendo and the Switch can stay in their own lane and thrive for a few more years.

@Ralizah The Switch is a ninth generation console no matter how you slice it:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wikipedia-community-debates-...

And the Switch only sold 50 million, not even half as much as the PS4. Expect sales to abruptly slow down when the new consoles come. I don't want to be all doom and gloom but the Switch is outdated and is in desperate need of an update.

@Magician of course they are going to say they don't care because they can't compete with the other two with the Switch. How could anybody say they lost the console war if they say they aren't competing. Great business strategy. Remember this is the same company that said the Wii U was selling on par to projections then discontinued it a year later. The Switch can't even full HD games like Skyrim and Witcher 3 without blurring it to hell. I just wish Nintendo would stop being stubborn and update the console.

@MrAfrika

The fact that they had debate it on wikipedia shows that there is no agreed upon definition. It was just a matter of convention that worked because the consoles tended to line up for the last 30 years.

As soon as that stops happening for a significant period of time, the concept of generations will become meaningless. Especially when you take into account the fact that Microsoft are changing their normal console business model as well (everything we've heard suggests they're switching to the smartphone type hardware-revisions approach).

You could end up with situations like in 20 years time, where you have to say things like "Playstation is on it's 11th generation console. Nintendo is on it's 13th. Microsoft is still on its 9th." That would obviously just be a completely meaningless concept at that point. It only means something if they vaguely line-up in time.

@Dezzy I would of agreed with you if the Switch wasn't a completely different console from the Wii U. Midlife cycle refreshes seem to be normal, not a whole different system. Like the PS4 and the PS4 Pro are still 8th generation systems despite the power difference. They take the same games. The Switch and The Wii U are completely different. Name and all. Thats what makes it a 9th generation console.

@MrAfrika

Yes but I'm saying that only means something over the long-term if that new hardware from different companies tends to line-up in time.

Otherwise like I said, you could end up with a situation where Nintendo has had several more generations than Microsoft has. At that point the concept is effectively meaningless. It communicates zero information about anything.

It's the same as human generations. It's why they specifically define human generations by what year you were born (e.g Millenials is defined as being born between 1981 and 1996), instead of how many literal generations of people have been born. If they did that (e.g your great-grandfather was 3 generations ago), they would run into the exact same problem. Namely that some families have kids when they're 20, and other families have kids when they're 40. So some families have great-grandparents who are still alive, whereas others don't even have grandparents alive.

@MrAfrika Microsoft doesn't care either about what the old competition (Sony, Nintendo) is doing nowadays either, it's only Sony that's in the old console wars mindset. Microsoft is all about accessibility these days, play wherever you want on whatever device you want of which we'll probably hear about xCloud and Game Pass coming to Switch sometime in the somewhat near future. Their true competition is Google and Amazon.