Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@Therad hd rumble really isn't all that impressive to be honest. Sure it's slightly better than what we have on other platforms but it's by no means a must have feature for most games. 1-2 switch sure, but I really haven't been wowed by it in any other game.

Yes, exactly like the article says

@Therad well you do not have to buy it. Its the right choice for kids. Nintendo always has an affordable portable option.

I just wish my og switch could come in link green 😣

@Therad Couch Coop is certainly not stopping. Don't forget, the Switch Lite still supports tabletop mode and HD Rumble on all but the built-in controller, so it's not like it fully lacks those abilities.

They really should have called it the LiteSwitch

bada ching!

And people don’t get it. The liteswitch wasn’t created to try to convince you to buy it instead of the original model. Of course people interested in the original model won’t be interested in the concessions.

It’s for people who weren’t and aren’t interested in the original model. It’s for the people who don’t see it as actually making concessions because they only play handheld to begin with. They see it as a huge plus. It’s for the people who weren’t actually interested in spending $300 to buy into the library but would be tempted at that magical $199 price point. It’s for the people who already own a Switch, but aren’t interested in buying a second or third unit for $300 each, but who would consider it for $200.

It all comes down to what your values are. To someone who values handheld play, they probably see the original model as having a whole bunch of concessions. More money for extra features they don’t even care about. Not interested.

This isn’t for people who like the $300 model. It’s for the people who don’t like the $300 model or don’t care about “switching” or don’t want to spend another $300 for their kid to have their own. This isn’t meant to convert existing switch owners, it’s meant to expand the user base to people who otherwise weren’t interested, and expand the user base to parents who weren’t interested in spending another $300/ea for multiple units. This isn’t targeting conversion, it’s targeting expansion.

If you only sell a $300 model that offers hybrid play, when you could be selling a $300 model that offers hybrid play and a $200 handheld alongside it, you’re going to miss out on massive sales from price sensitive consumers. Just because a lot of core gamers like the full package doesn’t mean there’s not a massive audience out there looking for a $200 Pokémon HD handheld. Heck even I’m interested for the slimmer form factor, better battery life and D-pad, and I’m one of the full package guys. Tons of people even on this website are interested. How many more, then, will be interested among the masses? I don’t think families are looking for personal recommendations from gamers here, they’re looking for a price they’re comfortable paying for their kid to have a handheld to keep them occupied in the backseat of the car.

It's not spelled ''Pikmin 4'', so I don't care about it.

I think the Switch Lite looks really nice.
Won’t be getting one myself but for those looking for a cheaper/portable only version of the Switch, how could you go wrong.

Seeing what my kids play, it certainly is a bad choice. It might seem like a good choice for a parent to buy for their kids, but the lack of built-in coop is a detriment. Of course, if the parents don't play it might be seen as a bonus since they don't occupy the tv.

@link3710 yes, for an extra $90 you can have a subpar couch coop without tv.

Look, it has merits and many will like it. But don't pretend there is no drawbacks. Isn't it better to inform people so they buy the right product for them, instead of getting turned off by Nintendo?

@JaxonH Took the words right out of my mouth.

Myself, I might just consider it if I can get my hands on that gorgeous Pokemon edition. It'd be great to take on hikes (yes I play Switch in the middle of the woods) but only if I can freely swap between the two with saves, even if they have to connect to the internet to sync saves or something, since I'd only be swapping when I go home.

WHY CALL IT A SWITCH IF IT DOESN'T SWITCH?!?!

Sorry for caps, but seriously. This reminds me of the Wii U branding mess-up all over again. Can you imagine the number of people (mostly parents) who are gonna see this for 200 bucks and be like, "Sweet! A Switch for 200 bucks!", buy it, and then get belligerent when it's like SURPRISE I'M CALLED A SWITCH BUT I DON'T DO THE ACTUAL SWITCH THING!

I just don't get it. Why does Nintendo do this to themselves?

@rallydefault
The name needs to communicate that it can play “Nintendo Switch” games. What else could you call it that clearly communicates that it is part of a console family, not a new console, while also being a memorable name in itself.

I can’t really think of a better name honestly.

As long as they market it right, there won't be an issue. The problem with the Wii U was that they didn't even show the console when they revealed it. It was just the GamePad, which led to some confusion early on. Stupid parents always exist, but if you can't read the box of the product you're buying, I dunno, it's your own fault really.

I don't think Nintendo's "done anything" to themselves. For all the talk of "people thought this/that about Wii U gamepad", I never heard "people" complaining about buying one by mistake for the Wii.

Same for New 3DS and all the confusion "people" would supposedly have... it never happened.

And nobody's gonna get confused about this either. "People" are a lot smarter than some give them credit for. And most gifts are bought only after consulting with a kid first. They know what they want.

And I agree about Switch naming. The name was originally derived from its functionality, but, when you branch out it dang well better keep the Switch name otherwise people won’t know wtf it is. It has more to do with the family of gaming systems it belongs to and the branding of games it can play than anything else. It’s a Switch that doesn’t switch... yes, because we already have a Switch that does that.

One thing for sure. That smaller screen for the switch lite will look sharp. Will look amazing

I did hear a bit about this, though not people actually buying it. Just not having interest in what they perceived to be just an add-on for the Wii. I wouldn't really blame "people" for the confusion in this case as the Wii U was marketed terribly and any confusion was more due to that, I think.

The Switch moniker doesn't really apply to it as it doesn't 'switch', but they have to show clearly it plays Switch games. And "Lite" implies it is stripped down of some features and is far better than something more vague like "New" or "Mini".
Nothing can be worse than Microsoft naming their 3rd system 'One'. If people aren't confused by that, then Nintendo will be fine.

Yes, the smaller screen will go a long ways to make games look more crisp. 720p games already looked better than a 1080p TV, now they’ll be super crisp. And 540p games will look closer to what 640p looks now on the current model, which is so close to 720p it’s nearly indistinguishable.

And lower res games (DOOM, Wolfenstein, Xenoblade 2) will look a little better. A little more clean. A little less blurry. That’s actually a really nice benefit to have.

I remember how much worse 3DS games looked on the XL versus the original size screen. Games just looked so good on the smaller screen. And it wasn’t that much of a difference between the screen sizes. So nearly an inch (diagonally) of screen less is going to do wonders in raising the bar of how good games look on a handheld screen.

@Therad I think you misunderstood my point. My point was that since HD Rumble and Multiplayer are viable on the new model (if subpar), developers aren't as likely to stop implementing them. Especially since HD Rumble is incredibly easy to implement on all accounts, and couch multiplayer is too key of a feature as it's available on the other consoles.

Sorry guys, I think it's dumb. Don't call it a Switch if it doesn't SWITCH. That's the premise of the brand.

I'm just surprised it doesn't fit into the standard dock.. i think selling a switch with no joy cons but the ability to play on tv is worth the $200 price tag. Not trying to dog it too much but you're getting 1/3 of the capability for 2/3 the cost of a standard unit. I really think it's worth $150 with the lack of features but $200 does kinda seem high to me. That's TO ME folks. I'm sure it's worth it for others but im just saying

Edit: it may not be 1/3 of the capability since you can technology play table top mode ( or connect joy con wirelessly) but not having t.v. mode is definitely feeling like 1/2 the capability but not half the cost. I dk.. guess I might be good for the kids.

@rallydefault you can you know research and make informed decisions. Its not rocket science.