Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

Oh? Have you seen the Japanese eShop listing with your own eyes? (Usually Nintendo rotates things on and off the upcoming section, so I may have missed an earlier listing.) Or are you basing that fact on gonintendo's report, which is based on nintendoeverything's report, which is based on the Play-Asia listing?

P.S. - I only ask because Play-Asia themselves aren't 100% consistent with their information regarding supported languages.

@Magician
The Play-Asia listings marketed as multi-language with English have never been wrong in my experience. And I've been importing for several years and have several dozen imported Switch titles. When they list a game that has multi-language support and English, its because the developer/publisher submitted a fact sheet with that information. And if its multi-language for the JP version the digital is also, whether it says it is or not. It wouldn't be the first time eShop listings only say JP despite having English support.

I suppose its possible they submitted incorrect info, but given the success rate of Play-Asia listings having correct language info, I feel confident in assuring you that's the case.

I'm not arguing that there's not a large handheld market out there. But I don't think the majority of that market will see a £200 Lite as good enough value.

The evidence to say there's a massive handheld market out there is basically the success of the DS/3DS line. Let's bear in mind that a lot of those sales were casuals swept up by the touch screen and stylus explosion in the noughties before smartphones really kicked in; that the 3DS had a massive price drop within 6 months to $170; that the more expensive 'New 3DS' wasn't a huge success; and that the DS, with it's clamshell and smaller size, was just perfect as a portable.

PS Vita sales don't prove the handheld market is massive.

It was massive. But smartphones and hybrids are competing too strongly for the £200 price in my opinion.

Switch Lite will sell insanely well, no doubt about it. Even if sales drop off after the first few months, I still think it will sell millions. I also see no danger to cannibalizing "real" Switch sales (there's another name they could go with actually - change to Real Switch and Fake Switch haha).

I just think it's stupid to do this to the branding. They had such a great gimmick/naming convention - SWITCH between TV and handheld! Take it anywhere and then enjoy on your big screen! SWITCH your experience as you see fit! And now they're going to water it down to "Well, the Switch Lite can't actually Switch, so that brand name...yea...doesn't mean anything anymore, it's just a label for the games now." I think it's dumb, and it's dumb that some of you guys are just head wagging and going along with it (another end of days sign for gaming). They took away the part that makes it a SWITCH. And they're still charging 200 bucks for it lol

The DS stands for "dual screens" - did they ever release a DS that didn't have two screens? When they came out with the 2DS, did they call it the 3DS LITE? No, because both of those things would have been stupid. You can't tell me that with the hundreds of marketing people working for Nintendo they couldn't think of a better name for this thing.

It's really not that big of a deal. My Wii U comment was probably overblown, but time will tell. It's an ok option for someone who really only plays on the go, but for 200 bucks it's a total ripoff. Take away the TV, rumble, motion, out-of-the-box multiplayer, and you should charge half price at the MOST. I hate the name, and I hate the price, and I hate (potentially) the confusion this is going to cause mostly with parents who buy the wrong thing for their kid. @WebHead as we ALWAYS need to say on the internet, not everyone is as dedicated/neurotic as us; not everyone is going to take 15 minutes to research every purchase they make, especially if it's not for themselves. No need to get snarky with me, either. Just face reality. Majority of people don't research things.

@Cotillion Agreed. It’s not like we live in a vacuum of information anymore. And you can bet that Nintendo will send out merchandising placards that display the difference, too.
While this isn’t for me as a secondary unit right now, I know quite a few folks that only play handhelds. It just suits their lifestyle and time better. This will sell, and getting bent out of shape over an option doesn’t make sense.

@rallydefault Switch Lite is the same price as a 3DS. They're selling an HD handheld console capable of playing home console level games for the same price as their 240p last gen handheld. You might not want one, but saying it's a "rip-off" is... kind of silly. It's a handheld that's priced like a handheld.

It's really bizarre how much significance you're assigning to the "Switch" name. It's just branding. It's unimportant. The important thing is to communicate to the consumer that it plays the same games as a Switch, just without the docking ability.

And no, it's not "the end days of gaming" because other people aren't freaking out about a piece of hardware that they're not forced to buy. Don't want it? Then you're not the target audience. Plenty of people are very happy to have a dedicated handheld version of this hardware, though. If that doesn't sound like a good thing to you, then I invite you to not purchase the product. I promise you that Nintendo isn't going to take away your hybrid model.

The Summer Sale's live for Europe right now. I see A Robot Named Fight is only €2 thanks to a 80% discount. It looks like a pretty fun Metroid-clone, has anyone here played it?

Also picking up Octo Expansion with 30% off.

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2019/07/despite_switch_lite...

for everyone saying that nintendo won’t make games tailored to docked mode/with hd rumble/etc anymore because of the switch lite

I'm not one subscribing to the idea that Nintendo will stop supporting the features, but I also don't really trust them when they make statements like that. It's like the Wii U being the 3rd pillar or how the 3DS definitely isn't dead despite it being conveniently juxtaposed to the SwitchLite price. In the end it'll always be up to the developers. I feel like even before the announcement, things like HD rumble weren't utilized as often as I'd hoped

@Arbor Gonna say, they also had no new hardware plans a week ago, DS was a third pillar and so on so forth.

Just because they say their focus is on the original model means jack all if handheld sales eclipse the original.

@Ralizah
You're not in marketing, are you?

2DS was because 3D was extremely demanding and required a ton of extra work and processing power, and the vast majority didn't use it.

With Switch, we're talking what... HD rumble? A pittance of work, and almost everyone enjoys it.

So hey, if people wanna worry Nintendo's gonna suddenly stop using HD rumble because 10% of its install base doesnt have it, then worry away. If people wanna worry Nintendo's just gonna start slapping 720p on everything docked, go right ahead and worry.

Stay up at night, smoke cigarettes, worry yourself into a panic attack if you want.

There's people who worry we're all gonna die from an asteroid any second too. But you can't convince them it's a ridiculous waste of time. So I say go for it.

I, on the other hand, know better, because I dont make things out to be more than they are. But I encourage any who want to worry about such things to fully embrace it and run with it. It's your dissatisfaction after all, not mine.

@JaxonH
lol

I don't see why the other features not seen on the Lite would really be abandoned unless something is so tied to touch controls which would rule out docking. 3D DID cost system resources to deal with. Multiple developers have gone on record saying that axing the 3D gave them extra processing power to work with. See: Fluidity: Spin Cycle.

HD rumble doesn't necessarily need to be "high-quality" rumble, docking is still a great feature you want to cater to for the other 50%-80%-whatever%, etc. Those are all things that don't take up a ton of performance comparatively speaking to 3D on the 3DS.

Have you read your paragraphs about how every game is the next best thing to grace this earth?

I believe it's at times like this where one of these is appropriate...

Never usually catch Knuckles comments because I blocked him long ago, but the quote let me see it so I'll answer this one.

You're delusional. Simple as that. Kinda why you're blocked. Comments have no basis in reality and never have.

I dont make every game out to be the best. I just dont. I play a lot of games, and I play a lot of good games at that, but the best? Not even remotely close to the truth.

But I can afford to play all the games I want, so its only natural I'll run across more good games, and thus have more good games to talk about.

Edith Finch I talked about and made no opinion on it whatsoever as I haven't played it. Attack On Titan I talked about and simply said it's a decent game. Mario Maker 2 I love, and I stand by it as a great game. God Eater 3 and DQ Builders 2 I talked about, love the demos, but nowhere claimed they were "the best".

So, no... not every game I talk about do I make out to be the best. But even if I did, it would certainly be an upgrade from complaining about everything as being the end of the world and spending my time fabricating insults out of thin air.

Stay salty Knuckles.

EDIT: I took too long looking for the gif...sigh.
I tend to agree with most of Jaxon's enthusiasm because I like a very broad range of games...but even I feel like that was a sick burn. To add...

@Ryu_Niiyama
Statements have to have basis in reality to carry weight or offer any merit. And please, dont encourage such people. You'll just make him feel good about fabricating accusations out of thin air any time he needs an ego boost.

To people like Knuckles whose average opinion is somewhere between Hades and the underworld, saying "I played a game and liked it" = highest praise under the heavens. Optimism and excitement aren't the same thing as making every game out to be the best, something that's demonstrably and verifiably false and can be fact checked in the last 10 pages of games I've talked about. There's alot of good games out there, especially on Switch, and I make an effort to play as many as possible, but to accuse me of hyping every game as "the best thing ever" is just factual error. And especially hypocritical coming from someone who's never encountered a situation in his life he couldn't spin into a falling sky. Some of us remember the 3 page argument about how Smash Ultimate was "definitely a port" and how Monster Hunter Gen Ult was "definitely gonna be digital in Europe".

When I say a game is the best, you'll know it cause I won't shut up about it for days. Games like Trials Rising, Fire Emblem, Monster Hunter, Xenoblade. I shouldn't have to defend myself over such things as liking a video game, but I have to do it repeatedly with him. Guy used to talk crap about me on social media (without even hiding it, tagging me in the process) for the games I buy. I'm not ignorant to what's going on. You could see the envy all over him, it’s why he’s insulted me regularly for the past 3 years.

There just comes a point you lose patience with it. I can’t remember the last time he directed a comment towards me that wasn’t insulting me for the games I play and like, and I find it rather bewildering to see some people prop such an accusation up as some slick original remark the 27th time he says it to me, when the first 26 times nobody thought anything of it. More importantly, I find it unfortunate I had to see his response because I will lose my patience with his relentless snark toward me (the reason he’s blocked in the first place). If it was the first type of comment he’s ever made like that I might brush it off, but when it’s just a regurgitation of something he’s accused me of countless times in the past (literally too many times to count), funny time is over.

@JaxonH So I realize you may actually be upset by Knuckles' response. However let me clarify that my thought of it being a sick burn was not due to legitimacy of the comment itself but rather due to the succinct, rapid fire nature of the response and the, what I would assume to be, incredulous tone. The way the remark is not what you agree with but the delivery is why you noticed or found funny for a brief moment. Also hence the friday meme. Of course since I posted AFTER you did (by accident...it is hard to find gifs that I can easily link here sometimes) that makes my comment ill timed as opposed to bouncing off of gcunit's which was my intent. As such, I have made no attack on you or an implicit agreement with Knuckles/BLP. That being said if you took it as such I'm sorry. You are one of the few people that honestly seems to enjoy gaming and I would hate to see that dampened. Have a nice day.

Edit: Annnd I missed your edit. I give up. I can't answer anything in a timely manner.