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JaxonH

@FragRed
Probably not. Not unless they do a complete 180 and announce system-level chat, which we all know will never happen. At least, for the games heavily reliant on verbal communication anyways (thinking Arena of Valor, that game seems like you'd want to communicate, it's actually a shock that one is coming tbh, probably a deal worked out with N). It probably also depends how willing people are to play without chat.

But tbh they've got none to blame but themselves. They choose to continue pushing this "we don't want to admit we were wrong and late to the party" attitude, and just keep doubling down on inadequacy. So screw em. Any game heavily reliant on voice chat, when it never comes... it's their own fault. Unfortunate it screws the gamers in the end, though.

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OorWullie

There's been quite lot of good looking indie games announced today. Here's another

There's another promising looking horror game called Those Who Remain announced a couple of days ago as coming to Switch too. Not sure if that's already been mentioned in the thread? Push Square reported the other day that's it's coming to PS4 as well. No mention of it on NL.

This thread has been been a better source of news and announcements than NL lately, if it's reported at all then it can be hours/days/weeks late.Other things like Legacy of Fear being down for sometime in 2018 in the indies to look forward to article when there is a big advertisement for that very game at the top of their website saying 'coming Q1'. The same article also said 'the potential arrival of Outlast 1&2' when it was confirmed as coming in Q1 ages ago. There's also plenty of missing reviews . I'm finding myself having to go to Nintendoworldreport, Miketendo or the YouTube channel Switchwatch for reviews of games I'm interested in.

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FragRed

@OorWullie Nintendo Life are dropping the ball more often than not that's for sure. Maybe it's some kind of Gamer Network code of practice because Eurogamer.net are really crap with news too.

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MFD

@JaxonH You want voice chat... in a moba.... oh dear.

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JaxonH

@DarthNocturnal
I know you weren't. And I don't think Sony is a monster. They are just a company. They aggravate me sometimes with their policies but I don't really have any extreme views on them one way or the other. But it seems some people are on a crusade to prove their purity. And I'm just tired of dancing around it. Let's call it for what it is. Be it Sony, Nintendo or anyone else. Nobody is making them out to be a monster- but that perception is precisely what causes people to swing the pendulum in the other direction and defend them for everything. Because any small critique no matter how minute is perceived as demonizing them and therefore they must be defended at all cost.

Same thing goes on with Nintendo.

And it's not my word at all. In fact it's ALL his words, and Sony's policies. I'm just observing them.

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JaxonH

@MFD
Who said I "wanted" anything. I don't even play MOBA games, so how the hell would I want something for MOBAS.

Man I really wish you would stop responding to me. It seems like a game where you communicate with your team members.

No? That's not the case? Fine. Pick ANY other game. Gosh freaking dang dude, you get the point

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Haruki_NLI

I completely forgot Switch is getting a freaking MOBA. A huge one at that, at least in China.

What year is it?

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@SLIGEACH_EIRE Been hoping for Dead Cells on Switch. One of the few Early Access games I've paid attention to. Definitely a game that lends itself much better to a handheld.

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skywake

FragRed wrote:

In order for third party developers to take the Switch seriously in terms of online play, Nintendo needs to overhaul it's entire service prior to introducing the paid service.

People keep saying this sort of thing as if it's some kind of massive observation. Really though when you think it through it's a bit of a non-observation. Of course the service will have to improve before they start charging for it. And I don't know why people doubt that it will given the fact that they keep delaying the date that they're going to start charging. If they were fine with how it is now they'd be charging already.

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JaxonH

I have no doubt Nintendo will improve their online. Without question.

But at the end of the day, it's still gonna require a phone. Now, practically speaking, is that the end of the world? Well, no. If they allowed party chat at any time with any friend while playing any game via the app, I dare say it would be usable. Not the best solution, but usable. But something tells me we won't even get that. It'll probably be specific games, each with their own section in the app. And that's just unacceptable whether it's on a system level or on the phone.

And to be honest that's what bothers me more than simply using a phone. I can deal with the phone. What I can't deal with, is not having chat available any time with anyone for any game. Anything less is inadequate.

I'd love to be proven wrong, and if I am I'll be the first to concede Nintendo got it right. But I'm not holding my breath, and even if, by some miracle, they did allow such a system... it's still tied to a phone. Bleh.

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Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
Zachariah 12:10 (500 yrs before Christ)
They will look on Me whom they pierced

skywake

@JaxonH
As someone who pretty much always solo-queues and mutes I have to say I don't really care how they deal with voice chat. I won't be using it anyways. But there are other ways they can make their service worth the subscription. And they better considering that I couldn't care less about voice chat.

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Grumblevolcano

Well PS4's online didn't get any better from Sony charging for online vs. free on PS3. The free games is how Sony got away with that. Given we know about the classic game collection thing for Switch, Nintendo could technically use the same strategy especially given how desperate Nintendo fans seem to be to play games like SMB3 yet again (the fact VS Super Mario Bros. is outselling most games on the eshop is evidence of this).

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skywake

@Grumblevolcano
Sony didn't have a trial period they kept extending either. Anyways, whatever they do the comments section will find a way to run with the same lines they always have. You only need to see the misinformed reaction to Labo to see how much some people have already made up their minds on everything Nintendo

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Pazzo-TheFool

Even the Labo reaction was only salted by negativity, most people said "neat, but not for me" to "awesome!". Oy the die-hard corners disliked it.

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MFD

@JaxonH That was not meant negatively, and it was, as Inertiacreep says, sarcastic. Mobas are, as he says, very toxic and to take voice-chat on a game like that is to invite the angry screamy people to cuss at you all day.

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JaxonH

@MFD
Gotchya. I seem to have misunderstood completely.

I've heard of the toxic communities recently. Maybe Switch will be better suited as it's more isolated from the main platforms of the genre. Hopefully, anyways. And it's a newer game. So it could build a new fanbase. Idk.

Maybe that's all wishful thinking

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They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
Zachariah 12:10 (500 yrs before Christ)
They will look on Me whom they pierced

skywake

Caldorosso-E wrote:

Even the Labo reaction was only salted by negativity, most people said "neat, but not for me" to "awesome!". Oy the die-hard corners disliked it.

Depends on what news sites you were looking at and how much you get annoyed by the bile I guess. Though I think there's something to be said for the idea that some will find a way to dislike Nintendo whatever they do. Especially post Wii U and even more now they're doing well again. I guess some people just like the idea of being in the crowd that "knows better" than the "sheep" who are buying into one brand of toy vs another. The more different Nintendo are and the more positive the reaction is the more they get worked up.

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rallydefault

@skywake
Exactly. It's so easy to take shots at Nintendo because they do crazy stuff like Labo.

Oh! I found a classic Nintendo comment the other day on some random site, forget where I was. Maybe Gamespot or something. It was the usual, "Obviously these 15 million people are ALL parents just buying this baby toy for their kids. ALL of the games on Switch are for little kids." etc. etc.

Brought a smile to my face.

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