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MFD

@BLP_Software I'd give MS a thumbs up for letting people know it's a timed exclusive. May suck, but at least they're not hiding it.

Also, I vehemently agree with your inconsistency point. Capcom has done quite well on Nintendo systems with MH, and I've seen many state that it's portability is why they like it so. Those people are going to have to replay Generations until it nearly falls apart...

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StuTwo

@BLP_Software I think that "adult reasons" could extend well into other marketing and logistical considerations. It's not necessarily the case that Sony has the third parties on the hook and they can't bring anything to Switch (although they obviously do have some hooks in some third parties).

Like for DQXI - the "adult reasons" could simply be that Square Enix have a marketing plan for the game that's based on maximising sales of the 3DS and PS4 versions before bringing the Switch version to the fore. That's to the mutual benefit of Sony, Nintendo and Square Enix. Better to get the money in quickly - someone who waits for a port might not buy the port in the end (especially since there are always some negative reviews that might put them off). If it's a great game people will buy it again but if it's a mediocre or bad game you've lost a sale.

As for Capcom with their retro collections skipping Switch there's a simple explanation: their executives are out of their minds and don't know what they're doing.

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NaviAndMii

@UmniKnight No, actually - how did I not notice?! FromSoftware, huh? I dare not speculate too much - but **whispering quietly** I just Googled 'FromSoftware Switch' and the top search result was a (potentially untrue) report about the Dark Souls Trilogy potentially being ported over! ..and, a little further down, a Reddit rumour speculating whether they might be developing Metroid Prime 4? That'd be interesting!

EDIT: Their latest Nintendo release was Monster Hunter Diary Poka Poka Airou Village (try saying that drunk!) on 3DS - so I'd be kinda leaning in that direction if I had to put my money on something...

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MFD

@NaviAndMii I wonder how many of these projects Nintendo themselves is keeping under wrap, as we all know they like their secrecy. I wonder when we'll see another Direct...

Edit: That's an overall problem with some of these games, they get announced, and then stay in Japan, which is maddening. Yes, the Switch is region free, but if it's got no English patch....

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Haruki_NLI

@StuTwo That DQXI plan also runs the risk of "Who would buy the Switch port" when it comes 18 months from now?

As for Capcom, yeah...Capcom. I don't think words can describe that mess.

It's something to watch, as for now Sony has a hand, most definitely, in some of these games, and with their hold on marketing rights, the general public wont know about Switch versions for instance, which is a big problem. The other instances, executives will be dumb. XD

Companies are afraid to say. Like if the game wont work on Switch, at least explain that? If its taking longer than planned, please, at least tell us?

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Octane

@BLP_Software What has Sony to do with XX?

I also think it's weird they would pay for "exclusivity", but allow the games on Xbox and PC...

Are they also paying Activision to keep Call of Duty off the Switch? Or EA and Battlefront II?

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NaviAndMii

@UmniKnight If my memory serves me correctly, there's usually a Direct in September (?) ..fingers crossed! Nintendo are sure to want to hit holiday season hard though so, who knows, maybe they still have a surprise up their sleeves? ..there seems to be a convenient little window after Mario Odyssey for something else, perhaps?

..and, yeah, I wish that more games would get localised too - I was listening to an IGN podcast the other day & someone wrote in to the show from Norway and basically said that next to no games are available in his native language (Norwegian) - probably not even Mario Odyssey from what he was saying! In this day and age, I'd expect better - much better...

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Haruki_NLI

@Octane There are games that aren't those I'm referring to.

In fact, I'm not talking about those at all. It's a mix of keeping games off Switch, executives at third parties being dumb, and companies not talking, full stop.

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MFD

@BLP_Software Yup. There isn't much to understand in silence, though an explanation will get people far less angry, only upset I'd reckon. Yeah, that DQ thing will be interesting to match sales with the others. I will laugh my pants off if Switch sells more than both the others at some point.

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MFD

@NaviAndMii I'd reckon that window is for Xenoblade 2, given it isn't delayed.

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Peek-a-boo

@BLP_Software I can understand people feeling frustrated, because I spent nearly four long years as a sole Wii owner whilst knowing that both the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 were getting all of the worthwhile third party games. I have ‘been there, done that’ many, many times over the years as a Nintendo fan.

But not once did I get into a grumpy slump and start saying the things that I seem to read in this thread every time a new game skips the Switch. Personally speaking, I cannot fathom or see any logical reasoning behind what Sony has to gain by ‘paying out’ or ‘banning’ the likes of Secret of Mana, Mega Man Legacy Collection and the Disney Afternoon Collection. They are relatively small games in the grand scheme of things.

As @NaviAndMii says, not all developers managed to get hold of a dev-kit at the time and for those of whom did, they were sensibly putting their sensible hats on after reflecting upon the outcome of Nintendo’s last console.

Third party wise, if there isn’t much in the way of improvements by E3 next June while the Switch continues to sell really well, then perhaps then is a time as any to get into a grumpy slump. Don’t forget that the Tokyo Game Show is in September; plenty of new Japanese developed games will soon be announced!

p.s. First party wise, however, Nintendo has done really well so far. Less than five months in, and Switch owners are playing Breath of the Wild, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Arms and Splatoon 2 with Mario + Rabbids to look forward to next week. That’s one big game for every month thus far, with Super Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade Chronicles 2 on the way.

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MFD

@Peek-a-boo People keep refering to Tokyo Game Show as something that we should look out for in the West. There's no guarantee that any game there gets a localization, since it is the Tokyo Game Show after all.

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JaxonH

Lots of articles explaining why powering off is useless now that sleep and hibernation modes are a thing

Even if it's not actively worse, it offers no benefit. Saving a few pennies on a monthly bill hardly outweighs the benefit of instantly resuming at will and maintaining save states

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Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions

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MFD

@JaxonH I'd like to conclude that one by saying it's up to preference, really.

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NaviAndMii

@UmniKnight I wish I'd have had the option to learn Japanese at school - then localisation wouldn't be an issue! Instead, they made us learn French - which, frankly, hasn't been anywhere near as useful as Japanese would've been! ..I'm writing to the Government!!

(..and, yeah, I have to shut down my PC each time because it kicks out so much heat - not ideal, I know, but necessary nonetheless! Planning on building myself a new rig soon - cooling will be a top, top priority!)

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MFD

@NaviAndMii Yeah, we only get English around here as 2nd language, and by the time I got that, I knew far more than anyone could even teach me, so it was just repetitive boring stuff

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NaviAndMii

@UmniKnight Haha! I can only imagine! It's truly humbling when I encounter people from other countries speaking English so well - makes me feel a little embarrassed truth be told - but I just have little use for the French I learned at school in day to day life...we have a lot of Indian people living in my local community - quite a lot of Portuguese too, strangely - so one of those languages might have been more useful! ..but, if I could just download a language to my brain, I'd choose Japanese! (still time to learn, I guess - maybe I should challenge myself?!)

(apologies for going off-topic!)

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gcunit

I'm on the side of 'Not buying that sleep mode is better'.

The primary purpose of sleep mode is user convenience. And it's great for that.

But it does eat power. Different systems will be more efficient than others (e.g. 3DS battery will only last a couple of days in Sleep, Switch battery will last more than a week).

I'm more than willing to bet that the first thing to die on my Switch will be the battery. And sooner than we'd like to think, Switch batteries will have become 'out-of-production'. And that's ignoring that the battery isn't even meant to be user-replaceable.

If you're the type of person who keeps their consoles after they've moved on to the next gen, what are you going to do with your Switch when you pack it away? Put it on sleep mode and and leave it plugged in to a power supply to preserve it's electronic innards?

If you're someone like Jaxon, who seems to have an almost infinite amount of hours per day for gaming, then I can understand why Sleep mode is the default action, but for someone like me, who's gaming time is unpredictable and spread over many systems, I go more than a week or two at times without using my Switch (as much as I love it and the few games I have on it), I'm quite sure powering it off is a reasonable way to maximise the longevity of the battery.

You guys had me at blood and semen.

What better way to celebrate than firing something out of the pipe?

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MFD

@gcunit "If you're someone like Jaxon, who seems to have an almost infinite amount of hours per day for gaming" That's me in a nutshell, but I still prefer shutting my systems off. I'm an old fart

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IceClimbers

When it comes to TGS you basically have to pay attention to the Twitter accounts and NeoGaf for localization news.

Anyways, regarding MHXX, didn't we have to wait quite a while before a localization announcement for 4U and Generations? With Nintendo footing the bill for both?

Capcom won't localize it themselves because they're focused on World. Nintendo won't announce anything until after Stories releases as they don't want to detract from that in any way.

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