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EOTW

As a general monster design I like it, but as a moblin I gotta say it's not the best. Personally I think the ones from Wind Waker had the best design.

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Octane

@Tsurii The TP bokoblin looks like a creepy old grandma, doesn't look like the WW bokoblin at all! TP didn't have moblins either now that I think about it; it had the bulblins though..

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Eel

The new bokoblin is really just the wind waker one redesigned for the new more realistic style and borrowing the Skyward Sword bokoblins color and fashion sense.

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Octane

@Tsurii I think that both WW's and new bokoblin are more pig-like, that's why. TP's bokoblin looks more like an orc or a goblin.

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I like their new pants.

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EOTW

I'm really glad that that's been clarified. It would've been a huge missed opportunity if dungeons were confined to the shrines.

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DylanMcGrann

So in the Game Informer interview, Aonuma won't say much about how the Master Sword might fit in the game, but says there is "actually a lot of meaning to the way the [master] sword looks." And he hopes we'll be surprised. So what do any of you think the meaning is? It's important enough to be in the logo, so it could have some real significance in this game.

In my opinion, the Master Sword has often felt more like a simple upgrade than the legendary weapon the games seem to want us to think it is. With the weapons in the game being breakable, the Master Sword could actually be a big deal to find in this game, assuming the Master Sword won't break or degrade. However, the rust does seem to suggest the sword will have to be repaired or improved somehow by the player. So perhaps the Master Sword won't be so powerful when the player first gets it.

But Aonuma wanting players to be surprised seems to hint at something more than any of that. Before reading Aonuma's comments, I assumed it was simply a stylistic choice to convey the sword's age in the first HD Zelda game, but it's clearly more than just that as well. We've never seen the Master Sword in this sort of condition before, so I wonder what specifically has rusted the blade. Maybe it is rusted from being underwater for some period of time, further supporting the idea this is some time after the Wind Waker and the Great Sea has dried. Or maybe this simply indicates an extremely distant future. The rust could also be interpreted as some sort of corruption, which might be a theme in this game.

I guess we don't have much to go on here, but what do you think?

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Haru17

Why...?

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Nevermind, it's still better than Skyward Sword.

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Haru17

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The [bulblins] have this more classic, typical goblin look a lot of fantasy games and movies would use to them.

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Looks like meat's back on the menu, boys!

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Haru17

Literally me right now:

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Who is that? Can I marry them? Or, you know, provide them with some sort of deistic sacrifice?

Edit: Oh, pixiv... maybe the vows can wait...

Seriously though, since this game is apparently after the flood, I bet that the Master Sword grove scene is just misdirection. Ganondorf died in that timeline. Not only did he die, but he was stabbed in the head, shattering the crystal where the sealing stone once scarred Demise. That must have sealed Ganon in stone, which is why his power is now leaking out in its raw form, ala Skyward Sword.

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DylanMcGrann

@Haru17 I agree that scene could be a sort of misdirection. I don't think it was just for the trailer though. It seems to me the scene will show up in the final game somehow, such as a cut while a character explains what the Master Sword is for the first time.

However, Aonuma saying the Master Sword's condition (specifically the condition) "has a lot of meaning" suggests this probably plays an important role to the story present and past. So, wherever the Master Sword is, it’s not in great shape.

Personally, I'm not a big follower of the timeline and have never taken it very seriously, in part because it's just not a very good one. (I actually like the timeline split; I have different issues with it.) And I don't believe Nintendo cares about the timeline as much as some of the fans do either, so I don't think timeline conflicts hold a lot of weight until the developers say specifically that they considered the timeline carefully when working on this game—something they have not at all said. In fact, we have reason to infer the opposite, given their development style of experimentation, focus on game mechanics, and the fact they write story and dialogue so late in development.

With that said, if this game does take place after the Wind Waker, 100 years is a long time—enough time for a whole lot to happen—time enough for something to have happened to Ganon, his statue, and the Master Sword in the interim of 100 years or more. The reason Ganon is free could very well be the sword has been removed. Or perhaps the sword was removed long ago. My point is there are still a large number of logically consistent possibilities if this does take place after Wind Waker that could account for what seem more superficially like conflicts. And considering Nintendo’s record of stretching this sort of thing, I think it’s even more possible.

I don’t really care where it falls on the timeline overall, but I am curious which Link we play as in this game. I’m assuming it’s one we’ve played as already.

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Eel

Usually these games take place "hundreds" of years apart of each other.

Just 100 wouldn't be enough for the previous one to become a legend, after all.

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Haru17

Breath takes place after the Wind Waker, Ocarina of Time, Twilight Princess—everything.

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Not 'an' ancient sea, 'the' ancient sea. It's an awful method of storytelling, but it's pretty definitive nonetheless.

And there's no way we'll see the pedestal in-game before we arrive at it, if we arrive at it. The pedestal will be made apparent in the marketing and, probably, in the attract mode trailer.

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Djaves

For all the Zelda Fan like me, I've made a new Zelda : Breath of the Wild Trailer with the Spirit of the Old ocarina of Time TV ads. I'm a movie/TV director/editor and I want to raise the hype for This fantastic game!

Enjoy

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Haru17

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I'm a movie/TV director/editor and I want to raise the hype for This fantastic game!

I think Zelda will be alright.

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EOTW

Something else to note about the Master Sword's condition: it's covered in nicks. That would imply that it's been very heavily used, not just discarded or sitting in a pedestal. Maybe someone other than the hero tried to use it?

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GrailUK

Just thinking out loud but...what kind of dlc could such a huge open air environment get? Imagine them plonking a new dungeon right on top of your favourite spot lol.

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