Topic: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

question since this game can be played in any order, I do not want to play the main mission out of order, how does one know what main story quests to do first? or are they given to you in order?

@ValhallaOutcast There is no order. You can do Divine Beasts in the order you prefer

There's no real set order for anything beyond "1-get out of the plateau 2-detroy ganon". But the game will do its best to point you towards the logical next steps.

thanks all for the replies, I was wondering why the first quest update was defeat Ganon, as I was exploring the land I ran into those fish people and their prince wanted me to go somewhere with him but I seen a few shrines in the area I wanted to do first so that's where I ended off yesterday

'Those fish people'
In this forum, we call them Zora!
A proud and noble race... I'd certainly never call them 'those fish people' to their faces.....
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@G0dlike lol my bad, I have been playing the original Zelda for NES for 30 years and I am embarrassed to say I never learned any of the monsters names other than Ganon

The easy solution to all the timeline questions, have Mario Kart 8 be canon and hence all the missing gaps are filled in by the existence of Pink Gold Peach!

It's all good my man! Glad you're finding your feet in BoTw! The thing I love about the original NES Zelda was the lack of hand holding, and although that's carried on in BoTw, the technology has obviously advanced so now we have all the races and the timeline etc! I'm a little envious you still have it all to come to be honest! @ValhallaOutcast

@ValhallaOutcast The game has such a great way of taking you away from what you were going to do and letting you go in 20 other directions before you come back to that 2 weeks later Yep, no order, once you're off the plateau, you ideally visit kakariko as instructed (but it's not obligatory) and other than that, you can do anything at all whenever you want, the only exception being you either do the 4 divine beasts before confronting Ganon or you don't

@ValhallaOutcast Zora were just villains in the first game though, but they turned them into semi-ok guys in SNES Link to the Past, and a full fledged kingdom in Ocarina. Remember those impossible to beat hard hitting centaur red and blue guys with the shield up the top of death mountain in the original? Lynels the manual said they were called. They're back. Ohoooooo boy are they back..... It's not spoilery so much as a reminder since you're familiar with the original. They still hurt.

@NEStalgia LOL yes I seen video on Lynels now, they look angry

@ValhallaOutcast I was shocked when I saw my first one. I forgot what they were even called, they've been seldom seen since the 1st game. I love that the shield the white mane ones carry is the one from the user manual for the original

They were terrifying in the first, and twice as terrifying in this game though!

@NEStalgia @Maxz Finally SOMEONE else sees the Fi x Link unrequited love story. Take THAT, Ryu!

...Who had no idea you were talking to her with no tag... (grins)

Anyway, I have no issues with the bond between warrior and sword (...half of my weapons have names...I'm weird, but to my credit Japanese warriors used to name their blades...) but I can see a love story between them, sure. But the bond between blade (servant) and master from a bushido perspective is different from that between two lovers. So I can totally see the love between them...just likely not what you are referring to. Although if Fi couldn't tell the difference and took it to an extreme logical conclusion as an artificial intelligence might...I would guess harming Link could be hazardous to one's health. Heck liking Link might be hazardous to one's health. (thinking The Beast from X/1999)

I'll get back to our timeline discussion later...I need to think on it a bit.

@Ryu_Niiyama I'd just tagged you right above it so I figured you'd see it anyway!

Well, as you noticed BotW seems to have an odd obsession with romance themes (BTW, done Finleys quest yet? It's kind of a quest that I'm not sure how I feel about having participated in it when I'm done.....I thought there was a punch line...and there wasn't... )

Seems to be a running Aonuma theme. His wife should probably worry. But I've no doubt Fi is an intentional thing.

Yeah the timeline thing is a head scratcher. After all the work Aonuma put into making sense of the utterly senseless timeline Miyamoto built, he's gone and tossed it all. Unless this is really Miyamotos project, which I wouldn't doubt given it's Zelda 1 design and their disagreement about what Zelda is at first in which case it's probably a storyline reboot than a continuity.

She fits the description of both an AI construct and the Spirit of the sword. She also fits the description of annoying hand holding pest.

Given the evidently malleable nature of time in the Zelda series, it might be naive to assume that the timeline is even linear at all. That is to say, not less a timeline, and more an extravagantly interwoven piece of time-spaghetti.

Maybe the Rito DID evolve from the Zora, but after the Moon crashed into the Temple of Time, time itself fractured and various wormholes appeared, sucking the Rito species back into the same time period as their forebears. And maybe the Hero got sucked into one of these wormholes and was spliced into three/four separate copies of himself which then gave us the multiplayer games (although I think Four Swords has its own splicing justification based around a magical sword).

I think I'm having the most fun coming up with theories. Probably because I have the least actual knowledge of the established canon I'm working with.

@NEStalgia It was on another page! I've got needy clients today...(kill me). Nope, don't know who Finley is. Are you sure you aren't just shipping Fi and Link? (grins) I still don't see a romantic angle between them at all. I wouldn't call it an obsession with romance as it seems to be like the majority of consumable media. Before anybody gets upset, this isn't a dig, merely an observation by someone that isn't the target demographic for it. Heterosexual romantic overtures/implications are everywhere; even in places where you really wouldn't expect them. Since this is supposed to be a "living world" it is expected to have at least some heterosexual romance under current (because non heterosexuals don't exist in general media...and when we do it is "pandering". Of course YMMV depending on the country of origin of the source of media.) Also for some reason people don't just like pure action (think about even big action movies...still gonna have some aspect of sex or romance or both (gasp!) involved)...that is why I got out of comics... I can't take the drama. I just wanna watch Spidey punch out the Kingpin...not sell his marriage to the devil because Aunt May got shot. However I tend not to like mixed genre media because they are poorly balanced.

@DarthNocturnal When referring to Fi as an AI, aside from how she speaks I'm referring to the fact that she is a constructed life form, as Hylia forged the goddess sword. However, Hylia doesn't seem to have the ability to create organic life or "spiritual" life such as the golden goddesses (I still maintain that Hylia was likely born of the triforce and then entrusted to be its steward) can so I equate her making Fi just the same as humans creating an (highly sophisticated version mind you) AI. Fi isn't like Ghirahim in emotional range (although he is nuts so that isn't a big accomplishment..but she doesn't feel...whole even by the end of the game), and I would consider him to be an "actual" sword spirit. Although I suppose you could argue an order vs chaos aspect to the two of them and then Fi makes perfect sense....bombs NES's romance theory though.

@Maxz What in the...that is some Warp in the West level stuff right there...

Well, it is established there are several time line branches where decisions and (failures...good job Link!) alter Hyrule's history. However, at this point the question is which timeline does BotW occupy? There is a central history that happens before the timelines branch into "good job breaking it, hero" territory but at the same time this game is referencing two different time periods within itself....without that just being a previous game in the series. BoTW would have been two Zelda games a decade ago. There would have been a game for 10000 years ago and then the current game. Maybe even three if you went through how Link got his arse handed to him to prompt the game opening in the first place. It is more of a fraying thread than spaghetti I'd say... and one that as of yet (unless you count the first Zelda game) has not been knitted back together. Maybe in 30 years?

@Ryu_Niiyama Maybe it's less like normal spaghetti, and more like alphabetti-spaghetti in a rich tomato sauce; in that you have all these individual, well formed pieces, but as time goes on, some of them get devoured, while others simply get broken down into smaller pieces, but they're all suspended in this semi-viscous soup-like substance which acts as a sort of temporal and spacial unifier, putting them in close enough alignment that certain quantum events can have a perceivable effect on multiple pieces, tying the otherwise disparate time-streams into some sort of soupily connected whole.

Maybe it's like that. Actually, it's probably a lot like that, come to think of it; A sort alphabetti-spaghetti based system of quantum entanglement. Aonuma's probably just being coy about the whole thing. I bet we'll get a questionably voice acted recital of the above description in the next Zelda game. In fact I'm sure of it.

@NEStalgia God those romance things made me feel uncomfortable playing the game in front of people. The Great Fairy, Jesus. Im always pounding that skip button, c'mon skip the scene. Don't want anyone see me playing this embarrassment. Weird romance that caters to weird nerdy people, though not as bad as some Anime, where they have cartoon characters with revealing clothing, and weird questionable positions, that normal people wouldn't do. Like what the Hell. They like this? Their consumer base likes this? A console targeted and includes kids. Its embarrassing. There was other weird awkward romancing npc characters in this game too, all up on Link.

And the Acting, Oh My God what a train wreck. Not The Room level of legendary, but really bad. It had random consistency, sometimes acting was good, sometimes it was bad. But Mipha's actor wow. She sound like Mr. Burns from the Simpsons, when he thought he was an alien, with that breathy high pitched voice. "Im a fish girl, I bring you love, I bring you peace." She's bringing love kill it.

And King Hyrule, me and my sister we're making fun of him because of how bad he sounds. When he said his long A** name, "I Am King Nosferatu Hyrule," or what ever the Hell he said, my whole body just crunched, ugh this is bad line reading. He had a bunch of different accents too. Am I from Hyrule, Mordor, Space, I don't know. Line delivery was bad, emotion delivery was bad. Lo, but nay, hey, I say.
Urboso sounded decent, I liked her actress.

@CosmicLight Oh good, I'm not the only person saying "Link, say your safe word!" during the great fairy scenes.

I adore Lady Urbosa...Likely reason why I have saved Vah Naboris for last.

@Maxz Spagetti-O's? lol!