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shani

@MasterWario I'm inclined to agree on that, but for me it had the opposite effect: instead of becoming trivial, it made those battles even harder and more cumbersome laborious. Which is fitting since it's a powerful enemy. So that's why (like I mentioned in my previous post) it never felt cheap, but a sheer necessity to be able to defeat them in the first place. The message it sent to me was: "You're not ready, you're not good enough yet, you have to get better at this".

About the meals: Most of them never feel that effective to me (high-level meals, of course). Whether it's defense up or attack up, it only feels like a small boost and doesn't change much for me. Honestly, I don't even bother using meals anymore - other than for replenishing hearts - unless it's really necessary (yesterday I used a Speed Up meal for 'The Perfect Drink').
But if you feel like using meals in battle is cheap, how do you feel about fairies then? Shouldn't they feel like the ultimate cheat to you then?

And despite of me pausing several times to eat something, the Lynel still was able to kill me several times because he was just too fast, or I paused right before he hit me, so after replenishing my health, he took away all hearts but two or three and killed me with his second strike.

So what I did - after watching those videos - was starting to adapt. Yesterday, it finally felt like I did some progress. I fought a Lynel and he still managed to kill me once or twice during that battle (but I had 8 fairies, so no worries). However, I inflicted much more damage in a shorter amount of time than before. Mainly because I ducked (although I screwed up the first two or three times) when he started his spin attack, because I was able to launch more flurry attacks and because I stayed close-by when I used Stasis.

I still had to eat food mid-battle, but not that frequent anymore. So this time it felt more like I defeated him because I outsmarted him and not because I constantly kept myself alive through eating.
Before, defeating a Lynel was a matter of endurance, this time it was a matter of superior tactics. It felt really satisfying and at the same time, there's still a lot of room for improvement.
But whichever method I choose to defeat a Lynel, winning the battle always feels deserved. The only difference is that one way takes a lot more effort (and resources) and the other way is much more elegant.

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@Nicolaison Oooooo, I have to try that! So far the only thing I've really done with a Lynel is to use one to kill a Hinox. It was quite amusing seeing the Hinox being constantly set on fire by the Lynel! XD

Hmm... you don't run into too many Lynel's next to precarious cliffs, but the ones on Shatterback Point and Gerudo Summit come to mind. I'd be really interested to see how effective that is on Lynels. I just found this method effective while combing the Hebra mountain range.

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meleebrawler

@Nicolaison I thought Lynels were immune to freezing? As well as burning and shocking. That's what the compendium means when it says they have a resistance to all elements.

And besides, why deny yourself sweet Lynel loot by using that strategy?

And all this about mid-battle eating being cheap, I think the real issue isn't the option so much as the safety of eating in the pause menu. Eating in real-time like Skyward Sword or Monster Hunter would likely quell those concerns.

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Haruki_NLI

I ran into a Silver Lynel, had no time for that, one Ancient Arrow later its dust. No drops is the trade off though.

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Haru17

That's another thing. The game never explains why ancient arrows work so calamitously on guardians while seemingly warping other enemies out of existance entirely. There's just nothing — quite literally if one actually decides to use the arrows. And the guardians themselves were completely face value.

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Grumblevolcano

Interesting, I realized that you can't beat the game on Wii U without the Gamepad. My Gamepad ran out of charge so I was using the Wii U Pro controller and then reached a gyro puzzle and the game said to switch to the Gamepad. Of course this isn't an issue with Switch as all of Nintendo's Switch controllers have a gyroscope in them.

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Octane

@Grumblevolcano It's like 3D World, you can beat the game, you just can't complete it without the GamePad.

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Haruki_NLI

I think all controllers on Switch having near enough perfect parity (minus IR camera) is a big deal.

Even on PS4 the DS4 and Move can only do certain things each and you need both for a full experience. With Switch, unless its Joy-Con focused which you get with the system anyway, its doable with Pro Controller.

With Switch the full library is available with the boxed contents.

With others parts of it are locked behind a new controller or add on.

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meleebrawler

@Haru17 They don't explain it because all ancient technology is inexplicable in this game, being fictional and borderline magical. Think like the Mechon from Xenoblade, only things that hurt those reliably are the magical Monado or stuff made from the same material.

Ancient arrows are basically lasers that are so powerful only stuff made of the same material (Guardians) can even remotely withstand them, vaporizing anything else because they are just. That. Strong. It's also why reflecting their blasts is the only reliable way to damage them prior to getting, again, weapons of the same material or the magic Master Sword (with bonus Malice-slaying).

Interestingly, this ancient technology isn't the only lost thing. Rubber, a non-fictional material is also described with confusion, with nothing known about it besides it's name and apparent insulation properties. But nobody knows how to use or make it anymore.

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FGPackers

Did a little bit more this afternoon: 112 Shrines, did the secret club quest and the solution was really nice! I also did the quest for the whale sand boss, don't know the english monster name. By the way the fight was quite challenging (especially avoiding it) but fun and satisfying! Now i'm on my way to the Yiga Base to start soon the Divine Beast

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Haru17

@meleebrawler But this isn't Xenoblade and you can kill guardians with a wooden bow and arrows and a tree branch.

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meleebrawler

@Haru17 Just another form of videogame logic... hit something enough, regardless of how weak the hits are, and it will die/break. Not being able to damage them at all without the gear in a game where that stuff breaks would be too frustrating to implement.

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Undead_terror

anyone else have something weird happen to them? not too long ago, I was farming Dinraal stuff, and twice, the dragon came down, however the textures wasn't fully detailed, looked like it would be a model/texture for a long distance view, and then to add more of a issue, you couldn't even hit him...

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Nicolai

@Undead_terror Nothing outside of normal game rules. Recently I had a wolf kinda flip out when it tried to run away from me while I had it cornered against a cliff. Kinda jumped around a bit in a glitchy sort of way. Not much to write home about. And occasionally Moblin's hurt me when I don't expect them to. Just wonky hitboxes, I guess.

Oh, and I've had Dinraal appear more frequently than I expect. There was this one time where I watched him fly up to a stormcloud, then a couple seconds later saw him right behind me. He showed up around 4 times that night. I'm not totally sure how spawning works for dragons, so I can't say if that was out of the ordinary or not.

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Octane

@Undead_terror The only issue I encountered was the lag when hitting the Moblins, but those turned out to be a widespread issue, and not something rare. I've tried to break the game in other ways, but I didn't succeed

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FGPackers

@Undead_terror same as @Octane here. Only some lag when fighting Moblins but only before the patch. After it was released not a single problem

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Undead_terror

Ya the moblin lag is a thing to happened to mii as well so no worries if you are by yourself, no scratches on my disc, I guess it may be a spawn issue for the dragon at times, other then that I had no issue.

Also by since I mentioned DLC earlier, since the game sold loads and broke the record for best launch game, etc etc yaddi yaddi yadda, still think it would be neat if they would make some sort of thank you content wither it's a outfit, or a weapon or something...I'm pretty sure some other games did that right?...well free content in general.

But ya, I should try to complete this game to the max before I worry about that, 40.52% done the game, all shrines beaten, 222 seeds found, the compendium finished, right now I just wanna defeat all the Hinox's and Talus's then do other things.

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Maxz

Did the update fix the Mob-lag issue? It happened so infrequently to me beforehand that I've yet to consciously notice it not happening.

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SKTTR

Finished the Hinox and Talon quests and got the achievement medals.

Maxed out all armor except for the Hylia armor set, just missing a couple of Lynel Hearts. I used the Lynel items on the Berserker armor first and have a complete 4-star set now. With Attack+ bonus this one helps a lot in any battle. The Hylia armor set is quite redundant isn't it? Anyway, I'll max that one as well just like the rest.

Also have 350 Korok seeds now, and maxed the weapon and bow backpack, the bow backpack still has room for one item.. (I guess it's for the light arrows). Only shields left to go.

Still looking for other end game quests / minigames that have exlusive armor, rare materials, and "important" items.

Once I'm done farming Lynels, I'll go back to the horse shooting range and try that. I hear you'll get something if you hit 20 balloons within the time limit.

In Hateno is a deer hunting minigame. Hunt 20 deers within a time limit, also costs 20 rupees per game. Is the reward worth it? I skipped that because I felt like wasting arrows. What about the golf, bowling, and snowboarding minigames? I beat them but I'm not sure if I should have gotten better scores, it seems the rewards are shields or rupees only.

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Maxz

@SKTTR Golf's max reward is a Silver Rupee, sadly. Bowling's is Gold, which means if you get the hang of it, you can pull in rupees like crazy. If you've got a spare slot though, you'll get a Blizzard Rod. Surfing is just some pretty unremarkable shields (I think it maxes out at Knight's), and I think a rupee of some sort (not gold) if you don't have any free spaces. So unfortunately, mainly just rupees and stuff. Not much in the case of gold, considering how hard getting a 3 actually is. But an awful lot for bowling, seeing as the turns are quick and it's easily replicable.

I've just pulled over the 441 seed mark, so I've finally maxed out my inventory slots. I've actually had a really nice time just pottering around looking for seeds without any greater purpose. There's realistically nothing more I can get for them now (I'm not going for 900, no way), but I still like collecting them. They're basically a test of how well I've studied the landscape.

Anyway, that's quite a big milestone in my mind. I think I'm at 61.5%, which hardly feels overwhelming, but it'll have to do. I'm sure I'll keep popping into Hyrule for seeds, just because I enjoy collecting them.

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