Topic: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

@EvilLucario You got a point on Melee's Adventure mode.Those levels were uniquely modeled and it had classic Nintendo enemies like Goombas and Redeads that were satisfying to beat up on.

@Tsurii I've never seen, met or heard anyone actually opposed to the idea of single-player campaigns in Smash, at worst it's just indifference from fighting game-savvy players who know they will almost never touch those modes again once they've gotten everything they can out of them. And no matter how good or substantial that campaign may be, it's difficult to say you're getting your money's worth out of a fighting game if you don't actually play with anyone and/or don't enjoy the core gameplay.

@EvilLucario If the stories are short, self-contained and draw inspiration from their franchise of origin or character, it doesn't seem so bad to implement. Smash doesn't really have an overarching plot to keep in mind like most other fighters, except maybe R.O.B's status as the last of his kind and Mr. Game & Watch being a shadow bug dispenser being referenced in Wii U.

Smash Bros will sell fine regardless of single player content but if they want Smash to go to the next level of mainstream success and really make some money then something good single player wise is going to have to be included. Just look how many people say they didn't buy Arms based on the lack of single player content.

@bluemage1989 Nah, it'll sell insanely no matter what due to brand recognition, it would have to be completely awful before sales start taking a noticeable hit. Smash Wii U was only limited by it's platform, and it was still one of the best-selling games on the system despite it's "weaker single-player content".

ARMS has the disadvantage of being brand-new and unfamiliar, but almost anyone who buys fighting games for single-player content is gonna end up disappointed. Dress up arcade modes or event battles as much as you want, in the end you're just fighting bots over and over. How many such modes can you name that are actually fun to play through for anyone not interested in getting better at the game and regardless of the quality of plot?

ARMS is uncompromising in it's identity as a fighting game, it's the type of game that has to sell itself on it's main gameplay, not bells and whistles like a story or side modes. It's why Brawl generally isn't as well-regarded as either Melee or 4, despite having some better content on paper. Splatoon has a somewhat more robust single-player, but only because it's gameplay can actually incorporate it well. It and ARMS both primarily tell a story through unlockable art instead of wasting time telling you about it in cutscenes (what little plot there is in the main gameplay only serves to move you along), in fact I think ARMS has deeper lore simply by virtue of having more defined characters instead of blank-slate avatars.

In the end, ARMS did and still is doing well for itself in sales, thanks to support from the developers updating the game and the player's dedication in exploring the strategies possible, which in my opinion, is proof that a fighting game doesn't NEED fancy single-player options to do well.

All that matters to me is a story mode similar to Subspace Emissary. Keep the cool cutscenes and light plot, but emphasize improvement to level design.

In particular they could make levels that cater to certain character's strengths. There's no reason to pick slow, clunky characters like Bowser or Ganondorf in Subspace Emissary unless you like making things hard on yourself.

I wouldn't personally care about a new Adventure or Subspace-esque mode, but I really hope they continue to expand on Smash Run. I put so many hours into that, and I still get a kick out of it to this day. So much fun.

@Sneaky_Beagle A single-player option to just fight in the labyrinth going for a high power-up score without the relatively meaningless final event would be dope.

Well, since a new Smash game IS happening, you know what that means....My dreams are going to begin tormenting me about characters that'll never make it in.

Of course I wake up early from a dream where Teen Titans made it in, bleh.

Stardew Valley character conformed for Smash 5

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mynintendonews.com/2018/05/06/sa...

... also the story mentions that Sakurai has a Steam account... it’s not the weirdest thing ever, but It did kinda throw me off lol.

I kinda liked the Subspace enemy types... didn't they use them for 100 man smash too?

@TheTetrisGuy He does have a collection of PlayStation games, so this isn’t too surprising.

MWEHEHEH now... we shall have our single player story mode but If they weren’t thinking of putting one in and it comes down to last minute revisions to the game...making it come out not so expected.... possibly making story mode lame

I’m that case just scratch the story mode and keep it they way it was.

Is what I think would be a good idea

So does Smash do Patch Notes? iirc they just patch the game and expect the fanbase to find the changes, right?

Hopefully they take notes from Splatoon 2 and have a more consistent system of updating their game along with reasonable Patch Notes.

I thought Smash 4 had some patch notes...

@-Green- ARMS does it the best if you ask me, they even have a little fun with it by providing unnecessary, but funny in-universe justifications for some of the changes.

I'm looking forward to Super Smash Bros very much, but I'm a bit worried Nintendo is going to repeat their business model of Smash for WiiU. All those paid DLC packs were insane!
I really hope they do it differently this time. A season pass would be ideal if you ask me.

The quest for finding out whether Smash Switch is a port or new game continues as new info suggests Bandai Namco co-developed it.

Hornet for smash!